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David Wrightson

Which 21 lpm machine?
« on: July 16, 2013, 07:20:57 am »
Hello Gents,

We have two Honda pressure washers at the moment for driveway cleaning. (3000/15lpm)

They have been very reliable but they lack power when using them with the larger fsc so I'm looking for a 21lpm machine. I want my Mosmatic to float 
Have been looking at the diesel Lombardini to mount in the van and the 10hp Lombardini which is trolley mounted. Can't decide which one.

What machine did you step up too? Is it worth building a dedicated van set up?
Any advice most welcome.

David.
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Blast Away

Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2013, 07:37:44 am »
I've got a 17hp Lombardini FOCS engine belt driven 21 lpm interpump 202. It's key start, radiator fan etc, just had all new wiring done and replaced injectors. All mounted on a frame ready to mount in van. Runs sweet and it's quiet.

I want £900 for it.
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Matt Gibson

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2013, 07:48:15 am »
Bargain :)
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Rob_Mac

Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2013, 12:14:35 pm »
That will be a good machine from Lee!!

The cheapest way is to have a reverse Y splitter, running two machines into one outlet hose!

Rob ;D
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BDCS

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2013, 12:18:43 pm »
But take a larger footprint and run on petrol  ;)
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Smudger

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2013, 01:49:09 pm »
Hi chaps - looking at something similar but have been told that the 21 LPM machines are not suitable to off mains supply is this correct?

Cheers
Darran
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Matt Gibson

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2013, 02:14:42 pm »
Darran,

21lpm machines are really only used sucking from a tank. Even 15lpm machines should be tank fed.
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Smudger

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2013, 03:30:02 pm »
So being. Total novice here do you guys have a tank full of water and fill this off the mains as you work ?

So what's the most powerful that can be used on mains and are they any good?

Darran
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David Wrightson

Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2013, 03:36:44 pm »
Quote from: Blast Away on July 16, 2013, 07:37:44 am
I've got a 17hp Lombardini FOCS engine belt driven 21 lpm interpump 202. It's key start, radiator fan etc, just had all new wiring done and replaced injectors. All mounted on a frame ready to mount in van. Run sweet and it quiet.

I want £900 for it.

Thanks for the offer Lee. I would want to buy a new machine. How about this......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-HP-LOMBARDINI-DIESEL-PRESSURE-POWER-WASHER-/270490493534?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item3efa7d625e#ht_784wt_932
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David Wrightson

Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2013, 03:41:38 pm »
Quote from: Smudger on July 16, 2013, 03:30:02 pm
So being. Total novice here do you guys have a tank full of water and fill this off the mains as you work ?

So what's the most powerful that can be used on mains and are they any good?

Darran

I always use the customers wheelie bin. :) Not very proffesional I know but I have got my eyes on a "Water Buddy" from Brendon Power Wash.

http://www.powerwashers.co.uk/main/accessory_profile.php?accessory=Water_Buddy

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BDCS

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2013, 03:43:13 pm »
That is a 15ltr machine - look for a ws202 pump to be the 21 ltrs. 10hp is not powerful enough to run the ws202 pump, I have a lombardini LDW702 to run this. Always best to have a buffer tank which is bottom fed to the pump
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Smudger

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2013, 05:36:29 pm »
Cheers for that something else to factor in as and when I add pressure washing service
Darran
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David Wrightson

Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2013, 06:53:36 pm »
Quote from: BDCS on July 16, 2013, 03:43:13 pm
That is a 15ltr machine - look for a ws202 pump to be the 21 ltrs. 10hp is not powerful enough to run the ws202 pump, I have a lombardini LDW702 to run this. Always best to have a buffer tank which is bottom fed to the pump

Hi,

Thanks for the info. Did you build your pressure washer yourselve? The LDW702 looks like a great unit.
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BDCS

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2013, 09:58:20 pm »
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Peter J Haigh

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2013, 09:57:39 pm »
 I have exactly the same problem we also run two 15 LPM machines ones a GX 390 the others a lombardini. Both are struggling to run a 18 inch whirlaway efficiently, and I am reverting to the turbo lance all the time which is bloody frustrating. I also need something that can be wheeled on and off a trailer, so any other ideas would also be appreciated.

Regards
Pete H :
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Peter J Haigh

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2013, 07:33:32 am »
Currently looking at the Zeta petrol 30lpm
http://www.allpressuresprayersdirect.co.uk/zeta-zt30200pbe-petrol-engine-driven-pressure-washer-30-lpm-200-bar

 Any thoughts from the more knowledgeable amongst you
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Matt Gibson

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2013, 08:35:59 am »
Quote from: Peter J Haigh on July 24, 2013, 07:33:32 am
Currently looking at the Zeta petrol 30lpm
http://www.allpressuresprayersdirect.co.uk/zeta-zt30200pbe-petrol-engine-driven-pressure-washer-30-lpm-200-bar

 Any thoughts from the more knowledgeable amongst you

Great cleaning power. Really good for rinsing and using a FSC. Drinks a LOT of fuel on full revs but then again, you dont really need it on full revs all the time. Handy with twin outlets.
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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2013, 10:12:51 am »
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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2013, 05:35:27 pm »
Quote from: Matt Gibson on July 24, 2013, 08:35:59 am
Quote from: Peter J Haigh on July 24, 2013, 07:33:32 am
Currently looking at the Zeta petrol 30lpm
http://www.allpressuresprayersdirect.co.uk/zeta-zt30200pbe-petrol-engine-driven-pressure-washer-30-lpm-200-bar

 Any thoughts from the more knowledgeable amongst you

Great cleaning power. Really good for rinsing and using a FSC. Drinks a LOT of fuel on full revs but then again, you dont really need it on full revs all the time. Handy with twin outlets.

I have the same but diesel version, it only uses slightly more fuel than the Yanmar, cleaned 2 driveways today with it, 1 was around 150 m2, the other was approx. 180, also rinsed off and chased water around, used 1 full tank of fuel, run out right at the end. probably around £9, a small price to pay for the money it earned me today..  ;D
only downfall with it is that because it's a diesel it's pretty noisy.
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Peter J Haigh

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Re: Which 21 lpm machine?
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2013, 07:47:10 pm »
Gents
 When driving the larger FSCs 21" etc  - Should I be looking at higher LPM,  ie up to 30 at 200 bar, or higher bar with lower LPM, ie 21 LPM at 300 bar.
 I understand the analogy of hitting a wall slowly with a elephant, however the wisdom of longer experience would be appreciated.

Thanks Guys
 
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