[nathankaye]

(Yes im aware there is a digit missing on the card)

It is raining today where i am working and so I have taken 10 minutes (whilst having a coffee from my flask) to write on some window cards as a reminder to some, as to why im getting wet cleaning their windows.

[CleanClear]

(Yes im aware there is a digit missing on the card)

It is raining today where i am working and so I have taken 10 minutes (whilst having a coffee from my flask) to write on some window cards as a reminder to some, as to why im getting wet cleaning their windows.

Need to work on your handwriting skills, that doesn't look like "why do i work in the rain?" to me.

[nathankaye]

However, you did understand it though, but thank you for your constructive critique 😎

[dazmond]

Personally I don't bother telling them why.i just turn up and clean whatever the weather.if they say anything I tell them it doesn't affect the clean....that's it...no need for any more explaining....

[The Jester of Wibbly]

You will open a can of worms there

[Soupy]

[Alex F]

I genuinely thought that this was a joke as that definitely doesn't read why do I work in the rain !!!!!

[Dry Clean]

(Yes im aware there is a digit missing on the card)

It is raining today where i am working and so I have taken 10 minutes (whilst having a coffee from my flask) to write on some window cards as a reminder to some, as to why im getting wet cleaning their windows.


[/quote

[John Mart]

(Yes im aware there is a digit missing on the card)

It is raining today where i am working and so I have taken 10 minutes (whilst having a coffee from my flask) to write on some window cards as a reminder to some, as to why im getting wet cleaning their windows.

Need to work on your handwriting skills, that doesn't look like "why do i work in the rain?" to me.

Just brilliant!

[Soupy]

[zesty]

Oh Nathan.

If I was a customer and saw that written on my windows cleaned today card, I’d cringe.

Who cares!! Just crack on and clean windows.

You love to create problems that don’t exist

 

[andyM]

I genuinely thought that this was a joke as that definitely doesn't read why do I work in the rain !!!!!

[nathankaye]

https://goo.gl/images/iWUC4y

[Matt.]

That was the only come back possible Nathan ...

I opened it wit 1 eye closed incase the link went to ......." Nathan lubes the pole slowly " the movie 😂😂

[Slacky]

Obviously the preparation is sadly lacking.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

There are times when you pick your phone up and should immediately just  put it back down, today was one of them!!

[Simon Trapani]

Yeh this one tops your concrete melting water!

[Shrek]

So..... why DO you w@nk in the rain 

I can’t find the answer on your website 😂

[John Mart]

So..... why DO you w@nk in the rain 

I can’t find the answer on your website 😂

Who needs an excuse? 

[Stoots]

 

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Try these

[Dave Willis]

So, you’re not working because it’s raining and your thinking of printing a card explaining why you work in the rain

[cleaniac]

Nathan!

You are one oddball!

😁😂

I just clean on the arranged dates. Rain or shine..

This is just weird Nathan.

[p1w1]

Oh Nathan.

If I was a customer and saw that written on my windows cleaned today card, I’d cringe.

Who cares!! Just crack one out and clean windows.

You love to create problems that don’t exist

 

FTFY 

[Stoots]

[G Griffin]

So, you’re not working because it’s raining and your thinking of printing a card explaining why you work in the rain

That's what I thought.
Unless it depends on the type of rain. Do we need to go to the website  to see what types of rain NK works in?
"Is it still raining, love?" 
"Yeah, it's coffee from the flask in the vanning down at the moment".
"I'm not going out in that".

"Let me know if it's NK starting back to workingin down".
"Will do. They said it might ease off and turn to NK deciding to do a videoing down later though".
"They're not always right, love".

[nathankaye]

So if im woRking in the rain, does that mean  im not allowed ten mins in the van having a coffee break??

[p1w1]

So if im woRking in the rain, does that mean  im not allowed ten mins in the van having a coffee break??

Is why you have a coffee break on your website too? 

[nathankaye]

So if im woRking in the rain, does that mean  im not allowed ten mins in the van having a coffee break??

Is why you have a coffee break on your website too? 

 
Nope but might be soon with the new upgrade as i might start selling some
😂😂😂

[G Griffin]

So if im woRking in the rain, does that mean  im not allowed ten mins in the van having a coffee break??

You said it was raining SO you were having a break.
That says that it was a rain induced coffee break.
What's the difference between a rainy coffee break and non rainy coffee break?
Oh yeah, go to your website  .

[Dave Willis]

Only two reasons to work in the rain ................. either you need the money or need to keep on schedule.

[SB Cleaning]

Most customers couldn't care less or not at home if it's raining..

Writing that on just creates problems that ain't there.

[nathankaye]

Only two reasons to work in the rain ................. either you need the money or need to keep on schedule.

Or both and when you have an ill family and all sorts of things you need to take care off, my days off are important and i cant be swapping them just because a little bit of water is falling from the sky.  Obviously i cant chance making myself ill by working in silly weather; common sense comes into play. Yet most rainy days can be worked in.    Its more a case of; do you want to work in the rain or sack it off?  The fact its raining shouldnt be the automatic reason why your not working.

(Ive cleaned so many houses in the rain its crazy. At one time as like most, the rain was virtually falling straight down.  A customer paid but made remark that its raining. I asked her on which windows?  Her roofs overhang meant that her windows wasnt even being rained on. So many people see the rain and automatically call it for not fit to work in what about the windows (from the customers point of view) when the reality of the rain that particular day didnt matter as all those houses werent being rained on! (Obviously im refering to the windows as yes the roof etc is being rained on(

[nathankaye]

Most customers couldn't care less or not at home if it's raining..

Writing that on just creates problems that ain't there.

Not really. When i first switched over to wfp all my customers got a flyer explaining that i will be working in the rain.  All my new customers have a welcome pack which also states i work in the rain and refers them to the website and also highlights the 24hr guarantee (thats yet to be called on).
However a long standing customer piped up its a waste of time mate its raining. Yep he was told quickly the usual response and just carried on as usual, all is good.   So writing it on the cards is just a reminder (all be its read carefully mind you  ). 

[p1w1]

Mate you are simply OVER COMPLICATING things..you have just proven this in your last post, if someone mentions about it tell them there and then job done, you dont need to remind them of the fact. Do you really think Mr or Mrs X are going to come home see your card, make a nice cup of tea and then log on to your website to read why Nathan cleans in the rain.

[nathankaye]

Mate you are simply OVER COMPLICATING things..you have just proven this in your last post, if someone mentions about it tell them there and then job done, you dont need to remind them of the fact. Do you really think Mr or Mrs X are going to come home see your card, make a nice cup of tea and then log on to your website to read why Nathan cleans in the rain.

No mate, but its a reminder as to why and thats all thats needed. So why should you guys all have hissy fits about over complicating it.
What it does mean is that there is a reason why i am able and not the silly common thing many first think, that being; look at that poor fool, he must be desperate for money.

[p1w1]

Mate you are simply OVER COMPLICATING things..you have just proven this in your last post, if someone mentions about it tell them there and then job done, you dont need to remind them of the fact. Do you really think Mr or Mrs X are going to come home see your card, make a nice cup of tea and then log on to your website to read why Nathan cleans in the rain.

No mate, but its a reminder as to why and thats all thats needed. So why should you guys all have hissy fits about over complicating it.
What it does mean is that there is a reason why i am able and not the silly common thing many first think, that being; look at that poor fool, he must be desperate for money.

I couldn't give a toss what the customer thinks of me as long as i get paid i couldn't care less. Let them think i'm desperate for money they wont question why i'm working in the rain then  , dont have to prat around with reminders on cards then or put pointless info on my website
No one is having a hissy fit your just trying to fix something thats not broken

[Dry Clean]

It wouldn't be Nathan if he wasn't trying to fix something that isn't broken, oh crap I'm going to get another lecture on the difference between manual and power tools. lol

[Smudger]

What a bizarre thing to do

Darran

[G Griffin]

There's nothing wrong with working in the rain if you want to, Nathan
But who are you reminding or trying to convince? Customers or yourself?
You don't need to keep justifying it, mate.

[cleaniac]

Nathan you are coming across too apologetic.

Next it will be a sorry note..

Dear Customer.

I am so sorry, but your windows were cleaned today, possibly in the rain. My family are so ill, and i am so greatful for your sympathy, would it be ok if could ask you for £xx so i can buy food and clothing, but don't forget i am offering a 75% discount as an extra, due to my lowliness and recognition that i am grateful to be allowed to clean your windows.

Best...nk services.

😁

[Slacky]

Most customers couldn't care less or not at home if it's raining..

Writing that on just creates problems that ain't there.

Not really. When i first switched over to wfp all my customers got a flyer explaining that i will be working in the rain.  All my new customers have a welcome pack which also states i work in the rain and refers them to the website and also highlights the 24hr guarantee (thats yet to be called on).
However a long standing customer piped up its a waste of time mate its raining. Yep he was told quickly the usual response and just carried on as usual, all is good.   So writing it on the cards is just a reminder (all be its read carefully mind you  ).

You haven't countered SB's statement Nathan.

He said most people couldn't give a toss about working in the rain. In an effort to counter that You replied stating you gave out a leaflet explaining about working in the rain when you went over to WFP. You gave out leaflets because you feared a response.

You had no proof you would get one. Only what your head told you. Which isn't evidence, its fear.

[dazmond]

Nathan you are coming across too apologetic.

Next it will be a sorry note..

Dear Customer.

I am so sorry, but your windows were cleaned today, possibly in the rain. My family are so ill, and i am so greatful for your sympathy, would it be ok if could ask you for £xx so i can buy food and clothing, but don't forget i am offering a 75% discount as an extra, due to my lowliness and recognition that i am grateful to be allowed to clean your windows.

Best...nk services.

😁

yep...this is how you come across nathan.....servile and scraping.....

by the way i normally work in the rain but ive NEVER bothered with a leaflet,note,windows cleaned today ticket explaining why i do....apart from a few brief/less than 30 second verbal explanations to the odd customer.thats it......

[nathankaye]

Most customers couldn't care less or not at home if it's raining..

Writing that on just creates problems that ain't there.

Not really. When i first switched over to wfp all my customers got a flyer explaining that i will be working in the rain.  All my new customers have a welcome pack which also states i work in the rain and refers them to the website and also highlights the 24hr guarantee (thats yet to be called on).
However a long standing customer piped up its a waste of time mate its raining. Yep he was told quickly the usual response and just carried on as usual, all is good.   So writing it on the cards is just a reminder (all be its read carefully mind you  ).

You haven't countered SB's statement Nathan.

He said most people couldn't give a toss about working in the rain. In an effort to counter that You replied stating you gave out a leaflet explaining about working in the rain when you went over to WFP. You gave out leaflets because you feared a response.

You had no proof you would get one. Only what your head told you. Which isn't evidence, its fear.

Its amazing what conclusions people can jump to.
Ive been cleaning windows for a very long time, during which on trad I never cleaned in the rain. So switching over onto a new concept and changing the pattern/nature of how i worked would need to be quickly explained to my clients.  I suppose matt and others that you have time to knock on each door and explain yourselfs........of course you aint. So a leaflet in the door with my usual card would do.
Haha everytime your gas company or electric company or even your bank makes any changes; do they come to your house to explain or simply pop letters in the bank.  But i understand now, its because they are afraid!! 😂😂😂 what utter rubbish.
Theres many on here who hide behind keyboards and non descript identities on here.......are these ones simply afraid and being keyboard warriors 😂😂

Mark,   sorry mate i dont see the fact that i have a great rapport with my customers that i can be honest without disclosing full details which makes them trust me more.  Shame i know  majority of my customers by name and not door numbers. Yep that sounds needie.
A quick reminder never hurts.  Sure no one cares as the vast majority know my cards etc and simply pick them up, put to one side and give me them back when they see me. Majority dont even read the payment options on the back...........until they need to.    But thats right, my tiny little card which isnt dated when ive cleaned their windows and isnt a full blown print out with date, time, invoice number, waffle and date of next clean etc etc all on it.......who does that?  Oh yes, its you isnt it?!

[nathankaye]

Nathan you are coming across too apologetic.

Next it will be a sorry note..

Dear Customer.

I am so sorry, but your windows were cleaned today, possibly in the rain. My family are so ill, and i am so greatful for your sympathy, would it be ok if could ask you for £xx so i can buy food and clothing, but don't forget i am offering a 75% discount as an extra, due to my lowliness and recognition that i am grateful to be allowed to clean your windows.

Best...nk services.

😁

yep...this is how you come across nathan.....servile and scraping.....

by the way i normally work in the rain but ive NEVER bothered with a leaflet,note,windows cleaned today ticket explaining why i do....apart from a few brief/less than 30 second verbal explanations to the odd customer.thats it......

Wow!!
Erm to me its called being considerate and thats how i operate.   
I also make my mind over and do it.  Do i want hot water?  Yes
Am i going to have hot water?  Yes
Am i going to constantly and publicly change my mind on these and when ive finally fixed my leaks on my new new new diesil water heater and warmed my behind on my lovely heated seats, im gonna jump on the forum and tell everyone a zillion times all about it.

[Stoots]

I think it's the fact you've crudely written it on by hand in biro that's a bit creepy 

If you had cards printed on the back saying "why do we clean in the rain" "rain guarantee" or similar and then visit our website ...

That could work quite well, you have put your website address on there so may get some traffic and also you have alerted people to your website with a good tag line...

However to just write it on comes across as odd and quite scary.

I know your intentions are good mate but quite often you miss judge things like this, maybe less thinking and more cleaning.

[robbo333]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29bR_PM37kU

[dd]

Helpful suggestion for Nathan's website, a section on:

"Why I sometimes pee in your garden"

(It should be less offensive than what he does when it rains)

[Smudger]

I think someone is being a bit sensitive,  man up a and admit it looks and reads badly.  if your not w@nking in the rain your also drawing your meat and 2 veg on the card

perhaps the thread should be penetration is key ?

cheer up NK - the the banter and pointers  on the chin - learn from the experience rather than being defensive and justifying your actions

Darran

[cleaniac]

Listen Nathan,

I think you are generally a nice chap. I truly believe that you are good at what you do, and i don't doubt that you have a good rapport with your customers.

But please take note of the majority of opinion on here, you are acting needy and desperate. You don't need to explain yourself with a sob story, all you will ever be viewed as is the guy who is nice, but needs constant validation. You are not the only guy in the world with problems Nathan.

My wife suffers with Fibromyalgia, she has spondylitis of the spine so she has ltd use of her leg, she also has Endometriosis, which she needed surgery 2 years ago to remove her womb, she has a walking stick, she is in constant pain. I have to help her daily with the kids..ect

My Daughter has Juvenile Uveitis with band keratopathy. She is under the care of 3 different specialist hospitals, The London Evlina, Oxford University Hosptial, and Frimley Park. She is on 1 methotrexate injection every week, which wipes out her immune system, she suffers with the side effects of that, and also on Adalimumab Injections every fortnight, which I have to administer.  We have several hospital appointments for both my daughter and my wife which is a challenge when you are running a business.

I have also have two Nephews with disabilitys, one has Downs Syndrome, and the other is Severely Autistic, that needs round the clock care. Not to mention my battle with depression over the years, which i am currently recovered from.
 
Now i would never use the ailments of my loved ones as an excuse for needing validation from people i barely know which is what you do, your customers are your customers Nathan, they are not your friends, they are not people you should be seeking sympathy from.

Now I run my business in a very regimented professional manner. I set my terms & conditions & stick to them. The price is the price no discounts, the dates are the dates, no excuses. My terms are my terms no need to tell everyone how bad my lot is, its inappropriate, unprofessional and unkind to your family.

So get a grip man.

[dd]

At least Nathan looks forward to rainy days.

[nathankaye]

So if im woRking in the rain, does that mean  im not allowed ten mins in the van having a coffee break??

You said it was raining SO you were having a break.
That says that it was a rain induced coffee break.
What's the difference between a rainy coffee break and non rainy coffee break?
Oh yeah, go to your website  .

My apologies and ive just re read my opening post.  I should have made mention that its raining and ive been working and now having a coffe n writing on some cards. Perhaps if i had the coffee first i may have either had time to decide not to bother or perhaps not be hasty in writing and perhaps they may not have givennthe wrong mental image in peoples heads 😂😂

[nathankaye]

Listen Nathan,

I think you are generally a nice chap. I truly believe that you are good at what you do, and i don't doubt that you have a good rapport with your customers.

But please take note of the majority of opinion on here, you are acting needy and desperate. You don't need to explain yourself with a sob story, all you will ever be viewed as is the guy who is nice, but needs constant validation. You are not the only guy in the world with problems Nathan.

My wife suffers with Fibromyalgia, she has spondylitis of the spine so she has ltd use of her leg, she also has Endometriosis, which she needed surgery 2 years ago to remove her womb, she has a walking stick, she is in constant pain. I have to help her daily with the kids..ect

My Daughter has Juvenile Uveitis with band keratopathy. She is under the care of 3 different specialist hospitals, The London Evlina, Oxford University Hosptial, and Frimley Park. She is on 1 methotrexate injection every week, which wipes out her immune system, she suffers with the side effects of that, and also on Adalimumab Injections every fortnight, which I have to administer.  We have several hospital appointments for both my daughter and my wife which is a challenge when you are running a business.

I have also have two Nephews with disabilitys, one has Downs Syndrome, and the other is Severely Autistic, that needs round the clock care. Not to mention my battle with depression over the years, which i am currently recovered from.
 
Now i would never use the ailments of my loved ones as an excuse for needing validation from people i barely know which is what you do, your customers are your customers Nathan, they are not your friends, they are not people you should be seeking sympathy from.

Now I run my business in a very regimented professional manner. I set my terms & conditions & stick to them. The price is the price no discounts, the dates are the dates, no excuses. My terms are my terms no need to tell everyone how bad my lot is, its inappropriate, unprofessional and unkind to your family.

So get a grip man.

and yet here you are getting into a huff due to my response.
Yet please tell me where i look fir sympathy and tell my customers all my worries and concerns!   All the leaflet said which ur making reference to,  simply states due to family health im no longer collecting in the evening!    After many many years of doing so its a straight forward reason. Sure i could simply say i no longer collect. To be fair i dont think the customers give two hoots either way. Its just you lot.
Sorry to hear of your family situation but again mark!  Where did i say my problems are any bigger than the next mans??!  I was simply putting things into perspective as to a whole bigger picture than stresses of working as a window cleaner! 

I may have woken on the wrong side of the bed, perhaps today. But who cares hey

[cleaniac]

I don't want to fall out with you over this, but I am simply observing your posts and what you tell your customers; and thanks for the apology for the stuff i deal with but i wasn't seeking one; i am making a point that you like to use your problems either with your perceived worthlessness (which isn't true, you are worth a lot more than you think, so stop being so apologetic) or family illness to control your customers, which is a bit lame tbh.

However...its up to you how you want to come across, not my problem. I'm only trying to help you see that you look desperate in general, as giving advice and help from one window cleaner to another..thats all.

Its hard to accept sometimes, I know as I have had to take advice from people on here; but it sunk in, and I sucked it up and applied it and guess what...Its made things easier for me (thanks to odbodds)

But at the end of the day do what you like, its not like it affects me, just don't expect everyone to powder your backside and wipe your tremblin' lips every time you stick a post like this up.

No offence like..

[dd]

I think the most important lesson to learn from all these posts is - if Nathan offers you a cup of coffee from his flask, say no.

[nathankaye]

I think the most important lesson to learn from all these posts is - if Nathan offers you a cup of coffee from his flask, say no.

Yes but its nice n creamy though, why wouldnt anyone want one.
😂😂😂

[nathankaye]

Ok marc, i might take on board others opinions.
However i dont percieve myself that way at all.  Neither do my customers and from  one leaflet saying i dont collect due to family ill health, ones have built a lame picture in their heads of me. Fair enough, if thats what they want to imagine. It certainly beats the image of me having a coffee 😂😂.
I dont barter with my prices and never will. Yes my working pattern is effected by personal circumstances but whose doesnt!  Yes my wife tried committing suicide last week whilst my 2 youngest kids were down stairs and now my mother in law who has very similar conditions to ur mrs has to stay over as my wife cant be left on her own at moment and yes i have to regulary stop work n check in on them.  Am i after sympthony from you guys, who i  dont know.......erm NO.  Can i say simply say so just to get it of my chest, without it turning round and biting me in the ASS..... YES i can as non of you know me nor ones i know to let people who i dont want to know, know etc etc..... YES i can.
Do i tell my woes to my customers......NO.   do they know?  NO! 

From one bleeding leaflet you lot depict such negativity its unreal. 

 Yes the word "work" looks like the word "wank" and now weve got the childish behaviour out the way, can we move on.

I choose to periodically remind customers, so be it!   Does it really matter if they take note or not. Does it heck!  However like all the debates, especially to do with either a diy van set up or van mounted n fitted and what nots......does the customer actually give a t#$$ as to what we have??   Absolutely not!! 
 Do other shiners.....haha of course they do for some strange reason!   

Yes i expect stick from such a post, yes i do and often it comes right on que.  Do i care, not really but sometimes i will have a moan back.  Damn it spock, have emotions........erm yes i do.

[tlwcs]

At least Nathan looks forward to rainy days.

To be fair, I’ll work in all weather 😁

[p1w1]

Thats your problem Nathan you take everything toooo seriously on here.  You posted you got reply's, you didn't like  them and now your getting all wound by it all.
At the end of the day you do what you like with your customers and work its all trivial nonsense anyway.
i just hope you dont do a video of it all (not that ive ever watched one anyway) 

[Dave Willis]

Should have been a miner Nathan with the holes you dig .................. or a waffle vendor!

[robbo333]

Nathan
I wouldn't like to put up with all the personal issues you seem to have going on in your life.
I think, deep down, you use this forum as a 'release'.
A way of helping to share your problems and lighten the burden.
If that is true, then fair play to you, and why not!
Having said that...don't write on the cards and get that phone number sorted.
Best wishes
Robbo

[tlwcs]

Can I ask why you’re using cards with the wrong number?
Tony

[Don Kee]

However i dont percieve myself that way at all. 

Thats the thing about self awareness, how we see ourselves and how others see us is often different.

I for one think that I’m an average person, but most people think i’m absolutley awesome.

I guess some people have less self awareness than others.

[dazmond]

However i dont percieve myself that way at all. 

Thats the thing about self awareness, how we see ourselves and how others see us is often different.

I for one think that I’m an average person, but most people think i’m absolutley awesome.

I guess some people have less self awareness than others.

i too see myself as a regular guy but my missus calls me "dazmondo the great"........so i just accept it now she says it that often.....

[John Mart]

However i dont percieve myself that way at all. 

Thats the thing about self awareness, how we see ourselves and how others see us is often different.

I for one think that I’m an average person, but most people think i’m absolutley awesome.

I guess some people have less self awareness than others.

i too see myself as a regular guy but my missus calls me "dazmondo the great"........so i just accept it now she says it that often.....

Sarcasm mate. 

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

However i dont percieve myself that way at all. 

Thats the thing about self awareness, how we see ourselves and how others see us is often different.

I for one think that I’m an average person, but most people think i’m absolutley awesome.

I guess some people have less self awareness than others.

i too see myself as a regular guy but my missus calls me "dazmondo the great"........so i just accept it now she says it that often.....

Funny that, my wife calls me the Ram!

[Slacky]

However i dont percieve myself that way at all. 

Thats the thing about self awareness, how we see ourselves and how others see us is often different.

I for one think that I’m an average person, but most people think i’m absolutley awesome.

I guess some people have less self awareness than others.

i too see myself as a regular guy but my missus calls me "dazmondo the great"........so i just accept it now she says it that often.....

Sarcasm mate. 

Lol. Exactly.

[dazmond]

my missus is a very lucky lady indeed......

[KS Cleaning]

Can I ask why you’re using cards with the wrong number?
Tony

I pointed this out to Nathan yonks ago, he said he was going to ink in the additional digit, looks like he hasn’t bothered. Not very professional from the self acclaimed window cleaning guru.

[Stoots]

My business cards have my old address on from 3 house moves ago lol. Damned if I'm changing it till I run out. Not that I use them, they will probably last me another 10 years.

[nathankaye]

Can I ask why you’re using cards with the wrong number?
Tony

I pointed this out to Nathan yonks ago, he said he was going to ink in the additional digit, looks like he hasn’t bothered. Not very professional from the self acclaimed window cleaning guru.

Ive thousands of them and after correcting the first 200 or so, i got tired of doing so.
Not to worry as both my websites are on the back and then theres messenger as well so plenty of ways to contact me and not rocket science either

[Smudger]

Can I ask why you’re using cards with the wrong number?
Tony

I pointed this out to Nathan yonks ago, he said he was going to ink in the additional digit, looks like he hasn’t bothered. Not very professional from the self acclaimed window cleaning guru.

Ive thousands of them and after correcting the first 200 or so, i got tired of doing so.
Not to worry as both my websites are on the back and then theres messenger as well so plenty of ways to contact me and not rocket science either

Sorry, that’s just sad on many levels - sad you didn’t proof read your card before printing - sad you actually spent time inking in the missing digit - sad you didn’t dump them and get new correct ones done
I couldn’t bear to use any card, leaflet whatever that had an error like that and I certainly wouldn’t go to your website if the initial phone contact was wrong
Darran

[KS Cleaning]

Can I ask why you’re using cards with the wrong number?
Tony

I pointed this out to Nathan yonks ago, he said he was going to ink in the additional digit, looks like he hasn’t bothered. Not very professional from the self acclaimed window cleaning guru.

Ive thousands of them and after correcting the first 200 or so, i got tired of doing so.
Not to worry as both my websites are on the back and then theres messenger as well so plenty of ways to contact me and not I rocket science either

It probably will be rocket science trying to contact you for any elderly customers you might be lucky enough to have. Thing is, don’t keep banging on about being the ultimate professional, you’re on first name terms with your customers  blah blah blah , when the reality is you can’t even be bothered to give  them your first point of contact details.

[SB Cleaning]

However i dont percieve myself that way at all. 

Thats the thing about self awareness, how we see ourselves and how others see us is often different.

I for one think that I’m an average person, but most people think i’m absolutley awesome.

I guess some people have less self awareness than others.

i too see myself as a regular guy but my missus calls me "dazmondo the great"........so i just accept it now she says it that often.....

[deeege]

This NKservices account on here has got to be one big wind hasn’t it?

Writing on business cards with the wrong phone number on why he likes to pleasure himself in the rain! 😂😂😂 Couldn’t make it up. 😂

Great stuff ‘Nathan’. The whole thing is Griff on a big wind up surely? 😂

[Soupy]

Can I ask why you’re using cards with the wrong number?
Tony

So that no one can phone him up and complain about him w@@king in the rain.

Obviously.

[tlwcs]

I don’t mean to put the boot in but it’s so unprofessional
If a customer gives your card to a friend of theirs and they try to ring, what’s  their first impression of you?
Yes there are other ways to contact you on the card so why not put a black line through the mobile number?
It would still look poor but would stop people thinking your a bit thick 😁

[dazmond]

I'd dump all the cards and order some fresh ones with the right number on......it's not gonna cost a lot to replace....

This is your image/reputation we re talking about.......dodgy cards with wrong numbers just makes you look a cowboy.....

[robbo333]

Nathan
Solopress are doing
2,000 business cards, printed both sides for £38 delivered.
or 2,000 A6 leaflets/cards, printed both sides for £28 delivered.
You do need to provide them some artwork, but i'll do it for you!

They have an offer at the moment on A5 leaflets, 1,000 single sided for £19 delivered, so i'm getting some done.

[G Griffin]

This NKservices account on here has got to be one big wind hasn’t it?

Writing on business cards with the wrong phone number on why he likes to pleasure himself in the rain! 😂😂😂 Couldn’t make it up. 😂

Great stuff ‘Nathan’. The whole thing is Griff on a big wind up surely? 😂

Not guilty  .
I don't know where Nathan gets his ideas from; I'm not that good.
But......he's a nice bloke and an open book. As someone else said, the forum and work seem to be his escape. These things together make for a lot of micky taking.
He just needs to develop a thicker skin. If you post, Nathan, then be prepared to get a ribbing.
Preparation is key.

[p1w1]

Nathan
Solopress are doing
2,000 business cards, printed both sides for £38 delivered.
or 2,000 A6 leaflets/cards, printed both sides for £28 delivered.
You do need to provide them some artwork, but i'll do it for you!

They have an offer at the moment on A5 leaflets, 1,000 single sided for £19 delivered, so i'm getting some done.

Nice offer mate

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

I think Nathan is having a break!

[Col]

A long time ago 30 years almost I went self employed.
Business cards printed by going into a shop and discussing what I wanted with a guy with a well chewed pencil behind his ear.
Still lived with my parents at the time so their phone number went on the cards.
After a bit my girl and i got a mortgage and our own phone number problem was I still had a thick bunch of cards with my parents number.
Cue many nights writing out our new phone number on self adhesive sticker sheets.
Happy days indeed.
Strange thing was that through all the years of mini cassette tape answer machines mobile phones the size of bricks text messages and tinternet my parents still get phone calls wondering if am still cleaning windows.

[Soupy]

A long time ago 30 years almost I went self employed.
Business cards printed by going into a shop and discussing what I wanted with a guy with a well chewed pencil behind his ear.
Still lived with my parents at the time so their phone number went on the cards.
After a bit my girl and i got a mortgage and our own phone number problem was I still had a thick bunch of cards with my parents number.
Cue many nights writing out our new phone number on self adhesive sticker sheets.
Happy days indeed.
Strange thing was that through all the years of mini cassette tape answer machines mobile phones the size of bricks text messages and tinternet my parents still get phone calls wondering if am still cleaning windows.

Same here. I took my parents phone number with me though. 10 minutes on the phone with BT sounded like the better option than writing out cards...

[John Mart]

A long time ago 30 years almost I went self employed.
Business cards printed by going into a shop and discussing what I wanted with a guy with a well chewed pencil behind his ear.
Still lived with my parents at the time so their phone number went on the cards.
After a bit my girl and i got a mortgage and our own phone number problem was I still had a thick bunch of cards with my parents number.
Cue many nights writing out our new phone number on self adhesive sticker sheets.
Happy days indeed.
Strange thing was that through all the years of mini cassette tape answer machines mobile phones the size of bricks text messages and tinternet my parents still get phone calls wondering if am still cleaning windows.

Same here. I took my parents phone number with me though. 10 minutes on the phone with BT sounded like the better option than writing out cards...

Did you start the round yourself Soupy? I have a dim recollection of you saying it was your dad’s originally?

[Soupy]

A long time ago 30 years almost I went self employed.
Business cards printed by going into a shop and discussing what I wanted with a guy with a well chewed pencil behind his ear.
Still lived with my parents at the time so their phone number went on the cards.
After a bit my girl and i got a mortgage and our own phone number problem was I still had a thick bunch of cards with my parents number.
Cue many nights writing out our new phone number on self adhesive sticker sheets.
Happy days indeed.
Strange thing was that through all the years of mini cassette tape answer machines mobile phones the size of bricks text messages and tinternet my parents still get phone calls wondering if am still cleaning windows.

Same here. I took my parents phone number with me though. 10 minutes on the phone with BT sounded like the better option than writing out cards...

Did you start the round yourself Soupy? I have a dim recollection of you saying it was your dad’s originally?

He started in 1992. I was 11 so I was in charge of leaflets.

[John Mart]

A long time ago 30 years almost I went self employed.
Business cards printed by going into a shop and discussing what I wanted with a guy with a well chewed pencil behind his ear.
Still lived with my parents at the time so their phone number went on the cards.
After a bit my girl and i got a mortgage and our own phone number problem was I still had a thick bunch of cards with my parents number.
Cue many nights writing out our new phone number on self adhesive sticker sheets.
Happy days indeed.
Strange thing was that through all the years of mini cassette tape answer machines mobile phones the size of bricks text messages and tinternet my parents still get phone calls wondering if am still cleaning windows.

Same here. I took my parents phone number with me though. 10 minutes on the phone with BT sounded like the better option than writing out cards...

Did you start the round yourself Soupy? I have a dim recollection of you saying it was your dad’s originally?

He started in 1992. I was 11 so I was in charge of leaflets.

Nice one. My dad was a window cleaner too until he had burst duedenal (sp) when I was 17 necessitating about a month off work on state sickness benefit. He got a job as a postie as soon as he recovered.