AuRavelling79

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Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« on: November 24, 2010, 05:31:04 pm »
Alex has done it again! I was already using an SLX 22 as an 18 with a dual trim brush and now I've just put on the new "Extreme" - it is superb! And at length even lighter and just as usable.

It's a game of three halves!

Dave Willis

Re: Gardiners new light est brush - extreme.
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 05:40:13 pm »
Malc please delete this post - I've spent too much this week allready!

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Re: Gardiners new light est brush - extreme.
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 05:45:26 pm »
I've just received my Carbon goosneck with SL Extreme today!! :D :D

Will be fitting tomorrow while it's snowing.

This thing is art, it belongs in a Gallery!! Unbelievable, I'm sure it's filled with helium! ;)

AuRavelling79

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Re: Gardiners new light est brush - extreme.
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 07:13:11 pm »
I've just received my Carbon goosneck with SL Extreme today!! :D :D

Will be fitting tomorrow while it's snowing.

This thing is art, it belongs in a Gallery!! Unbelievable, I'm sure it's filled with helium! ;)

I didn't go for the gooseneck as it's more expensive than the brush for a 7g saving over a standard jobby and not adjustable either. But it sure is light.
It's a game of three halves!

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Re: Gardiners new light est brush - extreme.
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2010, 07:20:32 pm »
I've just received my Carbon goosneck with SL Extreme today!! :D :D

Will be fitting tomorrow while it's snowing.

This thing is art, it belongs in a Gallery!! Unbelievable, I'm sure it's filled with helium! ;)

I didn't go for the gooseneck as it's more expensive than the brush for a 7g saving over a standard jobby and not adjustable either. But it sure is light.

40g weight saving on the smallest one & more as the size goes up. ;)

I'm shocked at how strong it is!   :o   The goosneck that is.

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2010, 07:21:05 pm »
which one have you got there is 2 versions

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2010, 07:22:32 pm »
which one have you got there is 2 versions

Brush or carbon neck?

boshravie

Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2010, 07:26:40 pm »
Yes  all I can say (viva ALEX GARDINER)  :D :D it’s a great peace of kit.

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2010, 07:37:31 pm »
I've just received my Carbon goosneck with SL Extreme today!! :D :D

Will be fitting tomorrow while it's snowing.

This thing is art, it belongs in a Gallery!! Unbelievable, I'm sure it's filled with helium! ;)

I have had my Extreme and Carbon gooseneck for a few weeks now. good bit of kit.

I think I bought the very first one

AuRavelling79

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Re: Gardiners new light est brush - extreme.
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2010, 07:38:28 pm »
I've just received my Carbon goosneck with SL Extreme today!! :D :D

Will be fitting tomorrow while it's snowing.

This thing is art, it belongs in a Gallery!! Unbelievable, I'm sure it's filled with helium! ;)

I didn't go for the gooseneck as it's more expensive than the brush for a 7g saving over a standard jobby and not adjustable either. But it sure is light.

40g weight saving on the smallest one & more as the size goes up. ;)
I'm shocked at how strong it is!   :o   The goosneck that is.

Gardiners site says "The standard size (10") gooseneck is lighter than a plastic adjustable gooseneck (55g v 62g) and yet is virtually unbreakable..."

That's 7g saving in my book.
It's a game of three halves!

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Re: Gardiners new light est brush - extreme.
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2010, 07:58:12 pm »
I've just received my Carbon goosneck with SL Extreme today!! :D :D

Will be fitting tomorrow while it's snowing.

This thing is art, it belongs in a Gallery!! Unbelievable, I'm sure it's filled with helium! ;)

I didn't go for the gooseneck as it's more expensive than the brush for a 7g saving over a standard jobby and not adjustable either. But it sure is light.

40g weight saving on the smallest one & more as the size goes up. ;)
I'm shocked at how strong it is!   :o   The goosneck that is.

Gardiners site says "The standard size (10") gooseneck is lighter than a plastic adjustable gooseneck (55g v 62g) and yet is virtually unbreakable..."

That's 7g saving in my book.

I was refering to the rigid alloy goosneck! not an angle adaptor! ;D

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2010, 08:55:43 pm »
Surely a brush can only be so light then it's less effective?

Since using a heavier brush I found I don't have to scrub so much or so hard...

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2010, 11:08:16 pm »
Surely a brush can only be so light then it's less effective?

Since using a heavier brush I found I don't have to scrub so much or so hard...

But try using that heavier brush on a 60ft SL2! or even at 40ft.

Also with the goosneck comes the new feature of quick change head assemblies. Change from goosneck to angle adaptor etc. just with the release of a clamp! :D

Haven't tried mine yet, although my intentions are not for 2 bed semis but who knows? I can't recall ever going back to something that was heavier in wfp. ;)

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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2010, 11:20:05 pm »
the thing with alex is, he is still a window cleaner, so make stuff to make his life easier,  unlike a lot of companys which are just sales companys really and expect use to buy any thing they make

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2010, 11:25:10 pm »
the thing with alex is, he is still a window cleaner, so make stuff to make his life easier,  unlike a lot of companys which are just sales companys really and expect use to buy any thing they make

Said the same for years mate. Only last week was I yet again dissapointed with a major supplier! ::)

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2010, 09:16:21 am »
I've just received my Carbon goosneck with SL Extreme today!! :D :D

Will be fitting tomorrow while it's snowing.

This thing is art, it belongs in a Gallery!! Unbelievable, I'm sure it's filled with helium! ;)

I have had my Extreme and Carbon gooseneck for a few weeks now. good bit of kit.

I think I bought the very first one

I thought you only used vikans Dave?

AuRavelling79

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2010, 04:38:07 pm »
Used the Xtreme for the second day today and it combines all the power of a standard Gardiners brush with lightness which really shows at long low angle reaches.

When is someone going to invent a cold weather non-kink hose!?  ;D
It's a game of three halves!

elite mike

Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2010, 05:00:18 pm »
I've just received my Carbon goosneck with SL Extreme today!! :D :D

I thought you only used vikans Dave?


so did i , whats changed your mind, so rapidly dave

Dave Willis

Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2010, 05:25:48 pm »
Maybe he didn't pay for it. ;D

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2010, 05:38:15 pm »

When is someone going to invent a cold weather non-kink hose!?  ;D
What hose is kinking? The clear pole hose? ???
And what's the weather got to do with it GG?

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2010, 05:41:53 pm »
Anyone tried out the scraper?  Whats it like.

Simon.

Dave Willis

Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2010, 05:43:25 pm »
My hose has gone all stiff in the cold and my push fit pole valves are leaking  >:(

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2010, 06:07:31 pm »
can we do a trade in with our old goosneck and superlite brush  ;D yea i really do like the look of the new goosneck and brush,

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2010, 06:36:51 pm »
My hose has gone all stiff in the cold and my push fit pole valves are leaking  >:(

If the leak is where the pipe goes in Dave try some barbed to solid tube adaptors (can't think of a proper name) very reliable & won't shrink or expand! ;)

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2010, 11:51:22 pm »

When is someone going to invent a cold weather non-kink hose!?  ;D
What hose is kinking? The clear pole hose? ???
And what's the weather got to do with it GG?

No, the microbore - which is stiffer in the cold.
It's a game of three halves!

Dave Willis

Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2010, 08:59:14 am »
My hose has gone all stiff in the cold and my push fit pole valves are leaking  >:(

If the leak is where the pipe goes in Dave try some barbed to solid tube adaptors (can't think of a proper name) very reliable & won't shrink or expand! ;)

Do you mean the inserts that we used to use on the old gas valves? What a good idea I'll give it a go in a minute!

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2010, 10:51:31 am »
My hose has gone all stiff in the cold and my push fit pole valves are leaking  >:(

If the leak is where the pipe goes in Dave try some barbed to solid tube adaptors (can't think of a proper name) very reliable & won't shrink or expand! ;)

Do you mean the inserts that we used to use on the old gas valves? What a good idea I'll give it a go in a minute!

Not sure Dave, basically, it's barbed one end (this goes into your hose) & the other end is a hard plastic tube. The hard plastic tube is what you then push into your female "push fit" connector. It's a proper solid, reliable fit now, which won't be affected by any flex,shrink or expansion like you might get by just pushing the bare hose in. ;)

I'll see'f I can find a link. ;)

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2010, 12:04:45 pm »

When is someone going to invent a cold weather non-kink hose!?  ;D
What hose is kinking? The clear pole hose? ???
And what's the weather got to do with it GG?

No, the microbore - which is stiffer in the cold.
I've never had microbore kink. That's a strange one.

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2010, 04:26:44 pm »
My hose has gone all stiff in the cold and my push fit pole valves are leaking  >:(

If the leak is where the pipe goes in Dave try some barbed to solid tube adaptors (can't think of a proper name) very reliable & won't shrink or expand! ;)

Do you mean the inserts that we used to use on the old gas valves? What a good idea I'll give it a go in a minute!

http://www.johnguest.com/Home/applications/beverages-and-drinks-dispense/PI-and-PM-Fittings/Inch-Size-Tube-to-hose-fittings/TUBE-TO-HOSE-STEM.aspx

This is what I mean Dave, this won't be the right size, ferkin nightmare trying to locate the correct one. I'll dig mine out tomorrow & see if there's a part number on them. ;)

Dave Willis

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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2010, 04:52:34 pm »
That would be perfect I know Gardiners pole hose is 8mm outside but can't remember the inside diameter - probably 6mm?


Dave Willis

Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2010, 05:00:57 pm »
PM250806E?

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2010, 05:06:57 pm »
PM250806E?

Give me 10 mins, I'll go & get one to see if there's a clue.

It's that long since I bought them, I got mine to fit my pole hose with a push fit straight connector between them for quick change hose length, brush set up etc.

This straight connector is what comes on the new quick change goosneck from Gardiners.

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2010, 05:38:43 pm »
Right Dave

Yes, your part number is what I have. I used the barb end on 5mm ID pole hose. I also used it on 6mm ID hose & was fine but not as tight a fit (obviously)

For your info- 8mm refers to the tube & 6mm to the barb size.

You just need to work out which size of which you require.

Also, my van side door was frozen solid so had to clamber over loads of crap, banged my head & slipped on the ice, so please remember me if your numbers come up! ;) ;D ;D

Dave Willis

Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2010, 05:55:21 pm »
Sorry about that old chap. Just to recap the part number I picked out goes into your black or yellow Gardiners pole hose then pushes into the valve that they supply? I'm surprised Alex hasn't sussed that one out. I've found the push fit valves brilliant until the hose stiffens up and won't bend naturally where it hangs from the valve. Seems to work fine throughout the summer. I've even tried a smear of silicone on the hose but it just makes it worse.

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2010, 06:08:53 pm »

When is someone going to invent a cold weather non-kink hose!?  ;D
What hose is kinking? The clear pole hose? ???
And what's the weather got to do with it GG?

No, the microbore - which is stiffer in the cold.
I've never had microbore kink. That's a strange one.

Mine has started to kink recently. I put it down to getting thin after dragging it on the ground and around corners.

Never had this problem when it was new but the hose is probably 3 years old at least.

Bob
Why oh Why did he spell my name as bod & not bob on my wedding invites.

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2010, 06:11:16 pm »
Sorry about that old chap. Just to recap the part number I picked out goes into your black or yellow Gardiners pole hose then pushes into the valve that they supply? I'm surprised Alex hasn't sussed that one out. I've found the push fit valves brilliant until the hose stiffens up and won't bend naturally where it hangs from the valve. Seems to work fine throughout the summer. I've even tried a smear of silicone on the hose but it just makes it worse.

Yes, that's right BUT just to be safe-

Measure the pole hose ID for the barb end & do the same with the your valve just to be sure.

Like I said- the 8mm refers to the tube end (which goes into your valve) & the 6mm refers to the size of the barbed end. ;)

Yes, the one you picked out IS the ones I've got- 8mm x 6mm.

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Re: Gardiners new lightest brush - extreme.
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2010, 06:20:44 pm »
To put it simple your pole hose will have to be 5 or 6mm ID & your valve 8mm for that particular size unit to work. If not, you'll need a different size one. ;)

Dave Willis

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« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2010, 06:22:09 pm »
Oky doky