Floor_Tony

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2014, 07:47:48 pm »
"Come on have you been on the floor tony school of jokes" is not a opinion is it and has nothing to do with the topic in other words completely irrelevant and not useful to the member answering the topic in the first place. There leaves two things a jibe/dig/insult to me an the members opinion or a joke at my expense which is a sign of a bully.

So now I will not read stuff from you and say nothing especially when you have mentioned my name and I will certainly not drop it unless you give me a apology like a grown up since your so keen to promote growing up.
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Kev Martin

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2014, 08:18:00 pm »
"Come on have you been on the floor tony school of jokes" is not a opinion is it and has nothing to do with the topic in other words completely irrelevant and not useful to the member answering the topic in the first place. There leaves two things a jibe/dig/insult to me an the members opinion or a joke at my expense which is a sign of a bully.

So now I will not read stuff from you and say nothing especially when you have mentioned my name and I will certainly not drop it unless you give me a apology like a grown up since your so keen to promote growing up.

Tony

Leave it! 
You are wasting your time just report it to the Mods and let them sort it!  They removed the crap he wrote yesterday!

Kev
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Rob Hall

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2014, 08:28:03 pm »
"Come on have you been on the floor tony school of jokes" is not a opinion is it and has nothing to do with the topic in other words completely irrelevant and not useful to the member answering the topic in the first place. There leaves two things a jibe/dig/insult to me an the members opinion or a joke at my expense which is a sign of a bully.

So now I will not read stuff from you and say nothing especially when you have mentioned my name and I will certainly not drop it unless you give me a apology like a grown up since your so keen to promote growing up.

Tony

Leave it! 
You are wasting your time just report it to the Mods and let them sort it!  They removed the crap he wrote yesterday!

Kev
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Jamie Pearson

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2014, 08:45:01 am »
My preferred method for this type of work is to apply a stripper the previous evening.

Sheet it over with plastic and let it "sweat" over night.

Next day it just falls off.

It can also be done same day but you will find that additional applications are usually needed to get the results.

I appreciate it isnt always practical to have your kitchen/ hall etc all covered in chemicals for a night for everyone but having done this type of work several times it is our preference.

So far we have found Aquamix Sealer & coating Remover to be the most cost effective for this application.

Graeme Smith

Re: Tile paint
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2014, 10:45:59 pm »
SiC 17'' brush worked and did not damage tile but I was told they can knacker terracotta. Looked at a terracotta with an epoxy based sealant on it which is a lot stronger than the lithofin slate seal type sealers. Customer had sourced some of there own stripper which worked fastish but really stank. I used a high alkaline and dwell which did start cutting through but AM SCR was the best with dwell time under a slow speed rotary with a little water. Downside was the tile is not flat and the brush did not drop right into all the low spots and only had 15 mins dwell.
The overnight sweat time as Jamie said would appear to be the best idea if you can do it in the customers house which may not be practical. Or its 2 applications preferably with an hour between. seems to be the case of a mechanical strip using SiC or equivalent which can damage the tile or long dwell time with a less noxious kind of product like SCR. Still have not settle on a definitive method for this other than not paddling around in your work area is a good idea. Not got a 17'' diamond rotary brush but a man from China said I could buy some for £100.00 not sure what the quality would be like - possibly crap but standing up whilst stripping the floor would be good as long as you don't cock the floor up by removing the top of the tile with the sealant. The one which is a pig is the one I have just found - like a drive way sealant- tends to go black and has been put on with a spade.....

Rob Hall

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2014, 10:58:31 pm »
Keep going with the dwell time Graeme, it will eventually come off.

If you do not want to damage the Terracotta, why not try a 'softer' brush?

A 320 grit would murder it, possibly a slightly tougher one.

No dwell time either!

If you are really bothered about scratching the Terracotta, try using a .....

oh why bother...stick to your AMS&CR ;D

Graeme Smith

Re: Tile paint
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2014, 11:19:56 pm »
Sticking to it at the moment as anything soft don't work once it gets harder might as well use a chem as it does not mess the tile up. If you have a 17'' brush that strips epoxy coatings fast I'll buy one and tell you if it works otherwise back to chems and nylon brushes. The SiC I have is 80 grit for reference at 80 the tile surface starts bleeding colour as its abraded off. Wire cup brushes or diamond brushes have not got the results I want yet not when yer on yer knees, can see the theory of it being better if it works standing up and its quick + it fits a klindex rocky. I think though it will clean stone and fail on epoxy coatings unless of course i soften it first with any chemical alkaline or solvent

Rob Hall

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2014, 11:26:12 pm »
Sticking to it at the moment as anything soft don't work once it gets harder might as well use a chem as it does not mess the tile up. If you have a 17'' brush that strips epoxy coatings fast I'll buy one and tell you if it works otherwise back to chems and nylon brushes. The SiC I have is 80 grit for reference at 80 the tile surface starts bleeding colour as its abraded off. Wire cup brushes or diamond brushes have not got the results I want yet not when yer on yer knees, can see the theory of it being better if it works standing up and its quick + it fits a klindex rocky. I think though it will clean stone and fail on epoxy coatings unless of course i soften it first with any chemical alkaline or solvent
There are ways of taking off coatings with a coarse brush AND refinishing the Terracotta.
I think I will take a leaf out of KM's book, come on the training course and learn

Graeme Smith

Re: Tile paint
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2014, 07:13:15 am »
Problem with terracotta is it is not that strong so eating into it to remove scratches does not sound like a good idea but might be ok who knows. Are n't any courses that'll teach you just a matter of opinion

Rob Hall

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2014, 07:42:39 am »
Problem with terracotta is it is not that strong so eating into it to remove scratches does not sound like a good idea but might be ok who knows. Are n't any courses that'll teach you just a matter of opinion
Eating in to it?
Have a look at my website, I have a couple of Terracotta jobs on there, both cleaned with Silicone Brush!!

I am sure KM will advise you

Graeme Smith

Re: Tile paint
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2014, 06:30:46 pm »
meow

Rob Hall

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2014, 06:32:29 pm »
meow
Short memory, it wasn't so long ago you were on the phone asking for my help? Why the attitude?

Graeme Smith

Re: Tile paint
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2014, 07:35:51 pm »
You can't have a dig and not get a response it would be rude

Rob Hall

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2014, 07:44:18 pm »
You can't have a dig and not get a response it would be rude
Ahh, You have been reading the Tony book of funny replies ;D

Have a dig, not a problem, I can take it, unlike some others I can mention, just don't bother me with anymore of your enquiries.

Graeme Smith

Re: Tile paint
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2014, 09:39:16 pm »
Sorry master time for grasshopper to go to bed

Rob Hall

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2014, 09:44:11 pm »
Sorry master time for grasshopper to go to bed
Did I do something to upset you?
I remember you ringing me half a dozen times asking for help and advice, on the phone for an hour at a time then you turn into some kind of loony.
Tell me what happened and help me to understand why you are acting strange on here??

Rob Hall

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2014, 10:03:58 pm »
Well??

Graeme Smith

Re: Tile paint
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2014, 10:05:46 pm »
Pay for the advertising dude instead of standing on other peoples heads it does n't take this long to sponser a forum does it?? Going for my injection now.

Rob Hall

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Re: Tile paint
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2014, 10:18:30 pm »
[quote author ;D=Graeme Smith link=topic=182818.msg1560966#msg1560966 date=1393970746]
Pay for the advertising dude instead of standing on other peoples heads it does n't take this long to sponser a forum does it?? Going for my injection now.
[/quote]Ahh, right, I get it now, YOU own the forum, not Kevin

...And this is why you have turned against me is it?

I have tried to help you in what seems like a novice trying to get started...selling you a brush cheap to get you out of some trouble...

Loads of free advice...

and this is the thanks I get?

Maybe our paths will cross one day ;) Hope so...I REALLY hope so

Graeme Smith

Re: Tile paint
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2014, 10:25:22 pm »
But rob you got a job for 750.00 quid and all I got was a crap brush from china. Best go and walk the dog now before locking the door......