[Michael D]

Hi ALL,
            Does anyone use a small van 1000cc. And what would be a safe water load to carry. Any advice on this matter. thanks

[ScrimShady]

hope this helps
i have a escort van and i have a 400 litre tanks in the back, i dont know anyone who has anything smaller for Wfp.
i what sort of van was you looking at and i mite be able to help you, i was a commercial mechanic.
i hope this helps
ScrimShady

[Ian_Giles]

what you can carry will depend on the load carrying capacity of your vehicle, you will find it in your documentation...

Ian

[paul mather]

I run a Suzuki supercarry which has a measly 1 litre engine. It has a payload of  500 kgs so I have a 400 litre tank installed. It does struggle a little first thing in the morning when the tank is full. Have to say I probably wouldn't have gone out & bought such a small van but as I already had it when I started WFPing it made sense to use it. It has 105,000 miles on the clock so I will probably run it into the ground & then go & buy a bigger van.

[wightsurf]

So what do you do with your poles ,do they fit in the van or do you have to put them on a roof rack.

[neil100]

Paul,

If your payload is 500kg and you fill your tank up to the top you are overweight.

If the police stop you and take you to a weigh bridge you will face a big fine, £2k.

Its not worth it.

The weight includes the driver and the dieseal, You then have your Di tank, pump, hose and reel, plus poles plus a battery and any trad gear you carry.

Nel.

[paul mather]

You've got me wondering now, checked my owners manual, the only relevant spec is a Curb Weight of 695kgs, is that the same as the payload?

[JM123]

paul the only suzuki van I could find is the suzuki carry 1.3i.  It has a payload of 577Kg, assuming you have a 400ltr wydale tank (which holds 350ltrs not 400 as 400 includes volume occupied by the baffles), plus tank weight (27kg I think but someone else may know for sure) equates to 377kg plus driver etc.

[paul mather]

I think I've worked it out. The kerb weight is how much the thing weighs empty & the gross vehicle weight is the maximum including the weight of the vehicle. So if you subtract the kerb weight from the gross vehicle weight you get the payload, I think


Gross vehicle weight          1410 kg
Kerb weight                        695 kg


Payload                                715 kg



Am I right?

[paul mather]

Does that sound right to you Neil?

[neil100]

I think your payload is 577Kg. I have pasted this page below, I think its your vehicle Paul.

 







   Suzuki Carry 1.3iBody Type: Micro       
     
   
Summary
   Feature
 
   
Basic Price:   £6,895
VAT:   £1,207
Total Price:   £8,102
Insurance Group:   7D
Cost Per Mile:   
Deprecation V1:   
Deprecation V2:   
Delivery Charge:   No
Warranty:   36/60/6
Extended Cover:   Opt
Dealers:   145
Servicing:   6
Chassis Cab:   No
Price List Date:   March 2000
Guide Lease Price:   
 
Lease Quote:   
 
 
   Rear Doors:   TG
Door Opening:   No
Side Load Door:   2S
Safety & Security:   A,C,S
Interior Partition:   No
Seats:   C,R,S
Head Restraints:   2
Total No Of Seats:   
Total No Of Seatbelts:   
Safety Rating:   
12v Power Socket:   Yes
Lidded Glovebox:   Yes
Radio/Cassette:   RC
Wiper Speeds:   2+i
Rear Wash/Wipe:   No
Heated Rear Window:   No
 
 
     
Technical
   Dimensions
 
   
Engine: cyl/cc:   4/1298
Engine Type:   P
Bhp @ rpm:   77/5700
Lb/ft @ rpm:   75/3000
Engine/Drive:   MR
Gearbox:   5
Automatic:   No
Power Steering:   Yes
Brakes:   S/vDi/Dr
Anti-lock:   No
Tyres:   155/R13
 
   Overall Length(mm):   3675
Overall Width(mm):   1475
Overall Height(mm):   1800
Wheelbase(mm):   2350
Turning Circle(m):   9.0k
Loading Height(mm):   743
Rear Door Height(mm):   No
Rear Door Width(mm):   No
Load Height(mm):   1100
Load Length(mm):   1620
Min Load Width(mm):   1340
Max Load Width(mm):   - 
Load Volume(M3):   2.4
Gross Payload(Kg):   577
Gross Vehicle Weight(Kg):   1450
Kerb Weight(Kg):   873
Towing Limit(Kg):   1100
Tank(litres/gallons):   40/8.8
 
 Its taken from this web address,
http://www.whatvan.co.uk/vandata.asp

Hope that helps.

Nel.
 

[paul mather]

Thanks Neil, my van is the older model with only a 1 litre engine, not 1.3.

It seems to make quite a difference to the kerb weight.
Mine is 695kg where as the 1.3 is 873kg. So with both vans gross vehicle weight being more or less the same, mine seems to be able to take a slightly bigger payload, as it starts off lighter when empty.

I'm having to work it out  this way(gross vehicle weight, - kerb weight = payload) as no where in my documentation does it specifically mention payload.

[neil100]

Paul,

Thats the correct formula for working the gross weight out.

Is it raining in Warrington? Its piddling down here in Lancaster.

Did you buy the battery charger I told you about?

Regards Nel.

[paul mather]

Yes it is hoofing it down here, went & did one house this morning in between the heavy downpours.

I've not bought the charger yet, but I do intend to do so. Had a heavy week & done lots of commercial work that I am still waiting to be paid on, when the cheques come in I will be on the phone to them.