trevor povey

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Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« on: October 21, 2019, 10:12:00 am »
looking at replacing van and need something along the lines of the above two as needing a bit more payload and a litle extra space without going too long...any lads with them give us a bit of feedback

dd

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2019, 11:20:58 am »
Personally I would want the 2.0 litre version, 1.5 is under powered.

Spruce

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2019, 02:06:33 pm »
Personally I would want the 2.0 litre version, 1.5 is under powered.

They come in 2.2liter Hdi engines. The older 2006 onwards come in either 100 or 110hp  engines. The earlier 100hp engines don't have DPF filters; the 110 do.  Payload = 1425kgs or close to that.
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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2019, 03:11:22 pm »
Personally I would want the 2.0 litre version, 1.5 is under powered.

They come in 2.2liter Hdi engines. The older 2006 onwards come in either 100 or 110hp  engines. The earlier 100hp engines don't have DPF filters; the 110 do.  Payload = 1425kgs or close to that.
The poster describes it as 1.5. I must have misread it as it seems 1.5 refers to payload.

Spruce

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2019, 03:58:25 pm »
Personally I would want the 2.0 litre version, 1.5 is under powered.

They come in 2.2liter Hdi engines. The older 2006 onwards come in either 100 or 110hp  engines. The earlier 100hp engines don't have DPF filters; the 110 do.  Payload = 1425kgs or close to that.
The poster describes it as 1.5. I must have misread it as it seems 1.5 refers to payload.

TBH I misread it to begin with as well. PSA are using a 1.5 diesel, so my first thought was if they have gone down to that.  :o

Personally, I would opt for a 2.0hdi engine any day over the 2.2. Emissions must be why they have stuck to the 2.2hdi but my 110hp is doing around 3mpg less than my old Citroen Relay with the 2.0 hdi engine. It does have more torque at low revs than my old van with the 84hp engine, but that could be because they have spread the gearing over 6 speeds rather than 5 on my old van.
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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2019, 04:34:53 pm »
looking at replacing van and need something along the lines of the above two as needing a bit more payload and a litle extra space without going too long...any lads with them give us a bit of feedback

I'm guessing they are like any other van. I like that they are galvanized where my previous 04 plate Citroen Relay wasn't and failed MOT at 76k due to rust. Mine's a 62 plate and the underneath is totally rust free. The only thing that needs attention is the handbrake cable pulley and adjuster.

I'm 5' 7" and can just standup inside. I also have the 333 model and springs are nice and firm with a full 650 liter tank in the back.

The old 2.0 hdi engines are bullet proof. I'm not so sure about the 2.2 though. By the number of 2.2 hdi vans being sold on Ebay as spares or repair with engine faults, it did concern me that I could be buying trouble.

I bought mine at 89k and have had to replace the alternator at 90.5k. The carbon brushes were worn down. I decide to replace with new rather than repair the old one. I have also had to replace the windscreen wiper motor and arm assembly as the driver's side spindle ceased up.

The starter battery is accessed through a cover inside and is under the passengers feet. I decided in my stupidity to take a supply cable from the battery and route it through to the back with the rest of the cabling to supply charge to the leisure battery in the back.
On second thoughts it would have been quicker and easier to run this cable from the jump start connector on the main fuse box in the engine compartment, under the floor and up  into the cargo area in a convenient place.

I removed the ply bulkhead that came with the van and fitted a second hand steel bulkhead that was a factory fit option on a new van. Its the same bulkhead for all vans from 2006 on wards whether standard or high roof. You will need to buy the right nutserts and bolts to accomplish this along with a nutsert fitting gun.

The van I bought hasn't got glazed rear doors which is added security.

The earlier 100hp engines didn't have dpf filters. The same van and year with 110hp engines do have dpf filters. Regen doesn't seem to be an issue and goes on without you knowing its happening - no warning lights etc.

The van I have is a 62 plate and it doesn't have day light running lights. There are parking lights but you can't use them with the engine running. The light switch is either off or on = headlights.
I sometimes can't see the speedo very well in darker conditions before dusk. The instrument panel only lights up with the headlights on.

The interior light in the cargo area is awful and I plan to fit some LEDs into the back to lighten it up at night.

The van I have has a parcel shelf above the driver. It takes getting used to when climbing in to not bump your head. Other wise the cabin is nicely laid out with lots of storage. I've added a second cigarette lighter socket and added a fuse and mini relay to activate the auxiliary power takeoff at the rear doors.
3 adults can fit in the front comfortably as can 2 child car seats.

I also fitted a rear reversing camera. Its a wide angle lens and works well enough. Later I will add a couple of reversing sensors to cover the corners. 

My 40' SLX pole fits nicely down the side as does my son's SLX25 and 2 x SLX22's. One is my  day to day pole and the other is a pole either of us can use with a flocked brush and fan/pencil jets for leaded windows.

If you plan to run a diesel heater and draw diesel from the main fuel tank you will need a standpipe to be fitted as you can't use the return pipe like you can with the older 2004 to 2006 Relays and Boxers.



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trevor povey

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2019, 11:27:31 pm »
Thanks for the response to date would be looking at at 16 or 17 plate with low mileage.. These vans are hard to find locally so may end up buying a new one as had a couple of decent quotes of 15 plus vat.. Just hope there as good runner as the vivaro we use as its not missed a beat for us and has 160 on the clock :)

dazmond

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2019, 08:14:24 am »
Thanks for the response to date would be looking at at 16 or 17 plate with low mileage.. These vans are hard to find locally so may end up buying a new one as had a couple of decent quotes of 15 plus vat.. Just hope there as good runner as the vivaro we use as its not missed a beat for us and has 160 on the clock :)

You must be one of the rare people who ve had no trouble with a vivaro!😂
price higher/work harder!

Smudger

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2019, 12:26:45 pm »
wow - I'd keep the vivaro and mount it in a museum - mines been nothing but a pile of sh!t£ - total money pit

I have a 63 boxer L1H1 now with 80k on the clock and a 18 plate relay L2H2 that is 1.5 tonne payload - love them both neither have been a problem - takes a bit of getting used to the handbrake being on the wrong side of the seat but the ride is good equipment for a van more than reasonable and what I really love is the turning circle - outstanding

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Spruce

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2019, 04:48:03 pm »
wow - I'd keep the vivaro and mount it in a museum - mines been nothing but a pile of sh!t£ - total money pit

I have a 63 boxer L1H1 now with 80k on the clock and a 18 plate relay L2H2 that is 1.5 tonne payload - love them both neither have been a problem - takes a bit of getting used to the handbrake being on the wrong side of the seat but the ride is good equipment for a van more than reasonable and what I really love is the turning circle - outstanding

Darran

Agree. The turning circle is excellent, far better than my 04 plate relay. Steering is also lighter. It has a nice driving position.
When empty I found it a little harsh on my back with the stiff suspension on a long distance.
I don't think much has changed apart from a facelift and higher rated hp engines; 130 & 150hp.

All said and done its a pretty good van imho. But I don't know how it compares with the latest Mercs and VW's.

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windowswashed

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2019, 07:33:09 pm »
Highly recommend the merc vito and VW transporter. Had no problems with my vito.
 

trevor povey

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2019, 09:59:18 pm »
Highly recommend the merc vito and VW transporter. Had no problems with my vito.
What they like on payload that's our main requirement

Ooooooog

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2019, 10:42:46 pm »
Transit 350 rwd is good for payload. You can pick up the old shape with low miles pretty cheap.

windowswashed

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2019, 03:34:04 am »
Highly recommend the merc vito and VW transporter. Had no problems with my vito.
What they like on payload that's our main requirement

Have a 600 Ionic tank in both Vw is a T30 so capable of carrying heavier payload than T28. Resale value is excellent, I actually prefer driving the Vito despite the weird handbrake being foot operated to apply and a lever on the dashboard to release.  Takes a bit of getting use to with time.

Kev Martin

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2019, 05:33:56 pm »
We have the Boxer L2 H2.  The van is great with no problems other than the bloody Ad Blu keeps needing to be topped up but we think we have a leak in the pipe.  Its in Tuesday for a service but at a cost New of £15K + VAT OTR including Black Metallic Paint and  the added bonus of 0% Finance its one of the best value vans we have ever had.  We regularly carry payloads of up to 1400 KGS sometimes even though its slightly illegal if I am driving ;D

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Smudger

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2019, 09:28:28 pm »
same deal as I got - but n metallic paint  just boring white  ;D

Darran
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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2019, 06:13:51 pm »
We have the Boxer L2 H2.  The van is great with no problems other than the bloody Ad Blu keeps needing to be topped up but we think we have a leak in the pipe.  Its in Tuesday for a service but at a cost New of £15K + VAT OTR including Black Metallic Paint and  the added bonus of 0% Finance its one of the best value vans we have ever had.  We regularly carry payloads of up to 1400 KGS sometimes even though its slightly illegal if I am driving ;D

Kev
how do  you find them on fuel to say a transit mk7  ? (if you have ever had one )

Spruce

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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2019, 08:18:07 pm »
We have the Boxer L2 H2.  The van is great with no problems other than the bloody Ad Blu keeps needing to be topped up but we think we have a leak in the pipe.  Its in Tuesday for a service but at a cost New of £15K + VAT OTR including Black Metallic Paint and  the added bonus of 0% Finance its one of the best value vans we have ever had.  We regularly carry payloads of up to 1400 KGS sometimes even though its slightly illegal if I am driving ;D

Kev
how do  you find them on fuel to say a transit mk7  ? (if you have ever had one )

I can't comment regarding a comparison between the Boxer and the MK7 Transit.

I had an 04 plate Citroen Relay SWB with the 2.0hdi engine. I have always preferred the 2.0 hdi over the 2.2 hdi from my days working at Citroen.
The 2.2hdi Peugeot Boxer is also a SWB so is basically the same van size as my previous one. Its better built and is a little heavier.

I have found the 2.2 does around 25mpg where the old 2.0 did around 28mpg doing the same round with the same equipment on board.

I often wonder if my old van was boosted to 110hp if the 2.0hdi would be better than the 2.2. As I mentioned before, the original Citroen C5 with the 110hp version was a much better caravan tower than the same car with the 136hp 2.2 hdi engine.
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Re: Peugeout Boxer /Citreon Relay H1 L1 333 1.5 payload
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2019, 10:25:21 am »
Toyota Hiace, dreadful reliabilty. Two light bulbs now in ten years.