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Title: Vision additive
Post by: Russ Hawthorne on January 20, 2022, 10:36:40 am
Hi,

I’ve been recommended to use Vision additive to help with sheeting the water away. Was told one drop in a 25l barrel would be sufficient. However playing about with it, I’m upto a few drops per barrel and still no effect?
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: Jonny 87 on January 20, 2022, 11:16:55 am
That’s a bit of a can of worms to open on here.  ;D

It’s been discussed before and many vocal ones would say it’s all placebo anyway so don’t bother.

I personally use it though and I prefer it to without. 

I think the recommended dose of vision additives is around 2-3mill per 100 litres. I use a different version so my dose is different, but I think 2-3mill is optimal for the vision mix.

You’ve also got to make sure it’s well mixed throughout the water. I’d put your dose in the empty barrel first, then fill up with pure.
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 20, 2022, 04:28:12 pm
That’s a bit of a can of worms to open on here.  ;D

It’s been discussed before and many vocal ones would say it’s all placebo anyway so don’t bother.

I personally use it though and I prefer it to without. 

I think the recommended dose of vision additives is around 2-3mill per 100 litres. I use a different version so my dose is different, but I think 2-3mill is optimal for the vision mix.

You’ve also got to make sure it’s well mixed throughout the water. I’d put your dose in the empty barrel first, then fill up with pure.
Were you involved with Dave Kemp (Vision creator) at the outset, or do I have you mixed up with someone else?
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: Jonny 87 on January 20, 2022, 04:49:51 pm
Yeah I was one of the group who trialed it and brought it to market all those years ago.

I’ve got zero connection to it now though, it’s all David.
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: SB Cleaning on January 20, 2022, 06:27:30 pm
It's a load of rubbish dont waste your money.
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: james peters on January 20, 2022, 09:31:22 pm
I started using added sparkle , and I did see a difference , I now use hot , but i might start using added sparkle in  the hot . ;D
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: Slacky on January 21, 2022, 07:39:42 am
I use Fairy Liquid. Half a bottle in 500 litres…
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 21, 2022, 08:36:33 am
We'll be discussing getting TDS down to below 1 part per billion next...

 ::)roll
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: Jonny 87 on January 21, 2022, 08:48:10 pm
I started using added sparkle , and I did see a difference , I now use hot , but i might start using added sparkle in  the hot . ;D

Additives do work a lot better with hot. 🔥 👍
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: dazmond on January 22, 2022, 01:13:33 pm
Hi,

I’ve been recommended to use Vision additive to help with sheeting the water away. Was told one drop in a 25l barrel would be sufficient. However playing about with it, I’m upto a few drops per barrel and still no effect?

I used it for 6 months a fair few years ago...I noticed 2 things...

1.it slowed me down as I was always over rinsing due to bubbles..
2.i ended up with a big gloopy mess in the bottom of my tank...

Personally I think it was a complete waste of time and money...
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: dazmond on January 22, 2022, 01:15:37 pm
I use Fairy Liquid. Half a bottle in 500 litres…

 ;D  ;D ;D ;D

I sincerely hope nobody tries that!

You d never get rid of the bubbles! :o ;D
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: robbo333 on January 22, 2022, 05:35:01 pm
Hi,

I’ve been recommended to use Vision additive to help with sheeting the water away. Was told one drop in a 25l barrel would be sufficient. However playing about with it, I’m upto a few drops per barrel and still no effect?

If you want to sheet the water away quicker, turn your flow rate up and ignore the additives.
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: Russ Hawthorne on January 23, 2022, 07:35:21 pm
Tha is for the input all. As I’ve bought it I’ll use it for a while and see how it fairs. Might up the dose a bit  8)
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: deeege on January 23, 2022, 08:30:28 pm
Hi,

I’ve been recommended to use Vision additive to help with sheeting the water away. Was told one drop in a 25l barrel would be sufficient. However playing about with it, I’m upto a few drops per barrel and still no effect?

I used it for 6 months a fair few years ago...I noticed 2 things...

1.it slowed me down as I was always over rinsing due to bubbles..
2.i ended up with a big gloopy mess in the bottom of my tank...

Personally I think it was a complete waste of time and money...

You told us all it was a game changer and it makes a massive difference to your working day…….then changed your mind and told us it was useless  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: dazmond on January 23, 2022, 10:28:48 pm
Hi,

I’ve been recommended to use Vision additive to help with sheeting the water away. Was told one drop in a 25l barrel would be sufficient. However playing about with it, I’m upto a few drops per barrel and still no effect?

I used it for 6 months a fair few years ago...I noticed 2 things...

1.it slowed me down as I was always over rinsing due to bubbles..
2.i ended up with a big gloopy mess in the bottom of my tank...

Personally I think it was a complete waste of time and money...

You told us all it was a game changer and it makes a massive difference to your working day…….then changed your mind and told us it was useless  ;D ;D

My sarcasm doesn't come through too well on an Internet post! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: duncan h on February 04, 2022, 08:35:18 am
I tried it from day 1. Before the 3 guys split and Dave went alone.
It used to realy help. There was loads of bubbles though. You were rinsing for ages. Had to get used to just walking away. The finish was brilliant.
Then messing about with it started and was never the same again. Then came V2 etc etc. I tried them. None realy worked. They gave a shine but no better at sheeting, or anything else.
One day my customers windows turned purple. That was my last day putting crap in my tank
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: colin bird on February 04, 2022, 04:55:40 pm
Hi,

I’ve been recommended to use Vision additive to help with sheeting the water away. Was told one drop in a 25l barrel would be sufficient. However playing about with it, I’m upto a few drops per barrel and still no effect?

i have the vision not to use it
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: the king on February 04, 2022, 09:37:47 pm
I used it now don't bother i had spotting on a leaded glass job for some reason it reacted never had a issue before also bubbles were a pain over rinceing on most windows i also found glass got dirty quicker im on coast  u found hot water best 🤩
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: swanson on February 06, 2022, 02:18:46 pm
Waste of money
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: Mike Banks on February 17, 2022, 03:47:09 pm
Waste of money.  After a while it can cause a sticky residue build up inside your pump.  It was the reason I had to replace one.  God knows why I used it other than placebo effect.  I could not tell the difference after stopping using it.
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: NWH on February 17, 2022, 03:50:59 pm
Click bate careful you don’t get banned 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: AuRavelling79 on February 17, 2022, 07:02:01 pm
Click bate careful you don’t get banned 🤣🤣

Bait.
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: NWH on February 17, 2022, 08:12:14 pm
Yeah Bait 😉
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: kempy on March 10, 2023, 09:42:10 pm
Hi , been a long time I have been on here .
Just read some posts over the last few months and sone good information on a variety of posts .
Regards
Dave kemp
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: Slacky on March 10, 2023, 11:34:16 pm
Sales be drying up…..
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: kempy on March 10, 2023, 11:43:43 pm
They been fine over the years . Maintained its steady sales over the years and recently still exhibiting at the show recently and trade retailing .
Anyway , no problem
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: Slacky on March 11, 2023, 07:49:18 am
Dishwasher rinse-aid is 10 times cheaper, and no postage.
Title: Re: Vision additive
Post by: Spruce on March 11, 2023, 08:36:43 am
I use Fairy Liquid. Half a bottle in 500 litres…

 ;D ;D ;D