[wezzy32]

got to clean a ladys guttering etc and her window cleaner charges her 30 quid per clean every 4 weeks but iv looked at it and it shud only be 18 quid at the most. he as over priced quite a few in the street why i dont know but i was thinking off giving her a fare price what would u do??

[jakeandmia]

cant really say there is such a thing as overpricing,the guy went in with a price that he was happy with and the customer accepted.You say you can do it for your price which is considerably lower,not a problem.If you go get the job youre a new custy better off and the customers better off,you may have an irate window cleaner to deal with but thats business.

[GWCS]

got to clean a ladys guttering etc and her window cleaner charges her 30 quid per clean every 4 weeks but iv looked at it and it shud only be 18 quid at the most. he as over priced quite a few in the street why i dont know but i was thinking off giving her a fare price what would u do??

No such thing as overpricing or underpricing, its what you charge.

Some people are more expensive than others.

Customers sometimes like paying over the odds as you may put it, because they feel they are getting a superior service than next door that pays a fiver..

Do what you like at the end of the day its the customers choice. regardless if your cheaper that guy may have been doing for years and is reliable and regular and has a good reputation - whereas you may be a new starter and currently not so.

[Niall McAllister]

If she asked for a quote give her a fair one. that's not undercutting. that's market flow dynamics  
if the price you give is what you would normally give, then that's fair enough.

[Scrimble]

you might think the guy is under charging but others would dis agree, why cut yourself short charging £12 less??

you run a business not a charity if someone is willing to pay £30 then you would be a fool to take less,

just think about it, if you was to underprice each customer on your round by £3, and you did 200 jobs each month then you are potentially losing six hundred pounds a month


no point in undercutting whatsoever

[wezzy32]

the house is only a 3 bed semi with con and he doesnt do the window above that.

[Sunshine/Cleaning]

got to clean a ladys guttering etc and her window cleaner charges her 30 quid per clean every 4 weeks but iv looked at it and it shud only be 18 quid at the most. he as over priced quite a few in the street why i dont know but i was thinking off giving her a fare price what would u do??

What experience do you have that the other cleaner does not have? How long have you been a Window Cleaner? Why do you feel you know what a fair price is and he does not?

[amberini]

all is fair in love & war... but my take on this is,   if the cleaner does a good job then leave it be,  if he does a poor job then take it off him as he deserves that at the very least?

during the course of business we all come across this subject wether it is done by us or too us! it's the ability to rise above temptation (unless they are crap) and let each professional window go about his job in any way he chooses & this way the same respect should be shown to us when vise versa.

[Gleaming windows]

If the customer has asked this window-cleaner for a price temptation has nothing to do with it.

Hes been asked for a price, it would be  inappropriate, unprofessional and rude not to give one.

What the custy decides to do once the second price has been given is irrelevant., whether the price is more, less or the same as the original price. Its their call.

[Craig - CW Window Cleaning]

If your happy with that price and the potential new custie is then its money in your pocket.

[wezzy32]

iv been working on my mates round the last 3 yrs and hav now decided to start up on my own in my area.so as for pricing i think i know wat a fare price is.

[wezzy32]

got to clean a ladys guttering etc and her window cleaner charges her 30 quid per clean every 4 weeks but iv looked at it and it shud only be 18 quid at the most. he as over priced quite a few in the street why i dont know but i was thinking off giving her a fare price what would u do??

What experience do you have that the other cleaner does not have? How long have you been a Window Cleaner? Why do you feel you know what a fair price is and he does not?

iv worked with my m8 the last 3yrs and now im starting on my own in my area.

[Rob_B]

I usually like to charge more than the last window cleaners.

(i) No accusations of undercutting
(ii) I earn more
(iii) Makes me feel better

If I had a job and found out another window cleaner used to get more than me for the same work it would really pee me off.

[jonnyald]

never undercut .        otherwise sure as hell one day your tyres will be slashed .

[JSMC]

30 quid for a 3 bed semi with con. Jeezo charge that round her ean dyou wouldn't last long. I get 9 quid for a 3 bed detached and that was pushing it. fair play to ye for getting those prices but in scotland wher ei live you have no chance. I quoted a hpouse on one of the poshest streets in my town for 20 quid. house was huge and i reckon my 100m hose wouldn't go right round it at all and she said last guy only charged 9 quid. I said no chance will i be cleaning it for 9 quid and left

[simon knight]

I think undercutting is plain daft and lowers the earnings potential for all window cleaners. If the other guy is charging £30 and the customer is happy to pay then bloody good luck to them. They're both happy!

You might do better to examine your own pricing structure.

[EZclean]

got to clean a ladys guttering etc and her window cleaner charges her 30 quid per clean every 4 weeks but iv looked at it and it shud only be 18 quid at the most. he as over priced quite a few in the street why i dont know but i was thinking off giving her a fare price what would u do??

if your gonna undercut why would you do it for 18 when you know she pays 30.
does the other guy do a mint job. does he spend time doing the frames, wiping the sills down, is it leaded? etc. would you do the same quality job for £18
you'd be mad to undercut by so much, but then again i never undercut anybody (knowingly)

[C.C.S.]

got to clean a ladys guttering etc and her window cleaner charges her 30 quid per clean every 4 weeks but iv looked at it and it shud only be 18 quid at the most. he as over priced quite a few in the street why i dont know but i was thinking off giving her a fare price what would u do??

my opinion do the gutter clean and don't bother with the windows.if the customer is happy with the clean then leave it.i never take a job if the customers is happy with the quality with their curent  window cleaner .i don't ant bad eyes from anyone.there is enough work available

[R W C]

sounds like hes snowed under with work which is why he couldnt do the gutters, why not contact him and ask him to pass on extras to you, its good to make friends in this trade  

[wezzy32]

im going to just do gutters and leave the windows.then hope to get  his number as i could perhaps get sum more off him as this is my 3rd job in this area.i think it would be best to make friends.

[R W C]

im going to just do gutters and leave the windows.then hope to get is number as i could perhaps get sum more off him.i think it would be best to make friends.

Spot on

[tony talbot]

undercutting is bad for your reputation, if the custy is happy to pay the price quoted by the other w/c then leave it be, its not your work. there are plenty of propertys that need a w/c so go get them ,remember what you sow is what you reap

[kenaltobelli]

not botherd reading all this so forgive me shuving my oar in but;
 one fella on here put low prices in a nutshell when he wrote some one had poisand a
  round giving out low prices that cant make you a living.
  you can do a house cheap but when its raining or your ill or fate bites you on the bum
  its that 12 pound you wish you had.
  you can get by or you can make a living the choice is yours you decide

[ccmids]

got to clean a ladys guttering etc and her window cleaner charges her 30 quid per clean every 4 weeks but iv looked at it and it shud only be 18 quid at the most. he as over priced quite a few in the street why i dont know but i was thinking off giving her a fare price what would u do??
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]give her a fare price if you do a  good job you might get more cuzzys of her mates or next doors

[paul beckett]

i think its out of order under cutting anyway.

there is no such thing as over pricing , they were happy with quote , everyone has a differant price.

if they want you to do work tell them to get rid of them first and then give them a quote.
dont be out of order and undercut them, you wouldnt like it would you.
you can justify it all you want, but you know what your doing.

[wezzy32]

as i had said b4 im just going todo gutters and leave windows .

[kenaltobelli]

just a bit of advice on pricing well from my point and mistakes ive made;
  you need to get a bit of an edge against inflation and make certain you make money
  ive lost count of the jobs ive given up not making money out of them
 and ones i wish i did not have to do as there under priced plus nowt worse
  than doing a job knowing the last bloke got twice what you get

[rhys11]

got to clean a ladys guttering etc and her window cleaner charges her 30 quid per clean every 4 weeks but iv looked at it and it shud only be 18 quid at the most. he as over priced quite a few in the street why i dont know but i was thinking off giving her a fare price what would u do??

What experience do you have that the other cleaner does not have? How long have you been a Window Cleaner? Why do you feel you know what a fair price is and he does not?

Your taking a mans job whitch he got him self. how would you like it if he undercuts all your jobs???
dont be a scumbag and find your own work. "I say it like it is"

"

iv worked with my m8 the last 3yrs and now im starting on my own in my area.

[A+CleaningService]

Depends on how much some one wants the work... 
Unless you have a full round, or don't need the money.
Some thing is better than nothing.

[PCNW]

Be ruthless
I go on estates where i know there are window cleaners then i severely undercut them - Put them out of business on the estate then whipe up their business and make it mine then rise the prices to suit your price range - This allows me to grow my business, customer base, potential for further profits and raises the value of my business in the process

[PCNW]

After all this is business -  We arnt here to make friends just money

[Gaby P.]

That's from the guy who doesn't know how to price a pub 

[EZclean]

Be ruthless
I go on estates where i know there are window cleaners then i severely undercut them - Put them out of business on the estate then whipe up their business and make it mine then rise the prices to suit your price range - This allows me to grow my business, customer base, potential for further profits and raises the value of my business in the process

tosser

[jouk45]

Be ruthless
I go on estates where i know there are window cleaners then i severely undercut them - Put them out of business on the estate then whipe up their business and make it mine then rise the prices to suit your price range - This allows me to grow my business, customer base, potential for further profits and raises the value of my business in the process

if thats the case m8 no more info should be given by any member here, am sorry , but you are out off line m8, business or not,

[PCNW]

Im also vunrable from the same thing - I bought some work when i started out and someone undercut me - I dealt with it and they went away - I kept expanding and it happened all over again and there are only so many times you can go to certain lengths to protect your business so when i needed to expand fast i got more ruthless - sorry guys thats what the more business minded indiviuals are in the job for - i expanded from £1000 a months worth of work to £1200 a week in the space of 9 months...

[PCNW]

That's from the guy who doesn't know how to price a pub 

Maybe its not even worth me bothering to quote it - might pass it on to tonyd instead 

[Ross G]

Be ruthless
I go on estates where i know there are window cleaners then i severely undercut them - Put them out of business on the estate then whipe up their business and make it mine then rise the prices to suit your price range - This allows me to grow my business, customer base, potential for further profits and raises the value of my business in the process

there's always one

pin against the wind looking for a reaction

memememememememememememememe

[jouk45]

we should all have one princible , if a custy says yes i have a w/c say sorry and walk on. i do this, as i would not want anyone to take my work from me, i have even refused custys, there are millions of custys out there, so no need to steal, we all want the ideal compact round, but in reality it aint going to happen as most areas are aready  taken, if the work is spread out, charge more then make it worth your while doing the work,

[PCNW]

My princilpe is to gain custys then increase their value to my business and expand as rapidly as possible making as much profit as possible and building a healthy business

[Ross G]

that would be too sensible for some it would seem Joe

 I'd certainly second that

[PCNW]

Some run rounds some run businesses thats what i think the difference is

[jouk45]

My princilpe is to gain custys then increase their value to my business and expand as rapidly as possible making as much profit as possible and building a healthy business

good luck m8, but i cant see you gettig much info on here with an Attitude like that, seems to me you dont have many friends, espesialy when you fall,

[PCNW]

I have too many friends if you want some - As a businessman though and with this written in my business plan to have the majority of rounds in St Helens i was on my way for massive profits but as you know i realised my investment and sold some work - Maybe people are more interested in buying work from me when they see little or no rival window cleaners and those they see clean a handfull of houses on each estate

[EZclean]

Im also vunrable from the same thing - I bought some work when i started out and someone undercut me - I dealt with it and they went away - I kept expanding and it happened all over again and there are only so many times you can go to certain lengths to protect your business so when i needed to expand fast i got more ruthless - sorry guys thats what the more business minded indiviuals are in the job for - i expanded from £1000 a months worth of work to £1200 a week in the space of 9 months...

what d'ya want a big hat

[PCNW]

Getting rid of rivals also let you price you work at what you want so in the long term you can dictate however much you charge and how compact you want to make your rounds i.e allowing you to expand at whatever pace you want
Any other business this would be seen as good business

[jouk45]

o yea, and someone with the same idea as you comes on the scene, and undercuts you with the same venture, o and that will happen,

[cozy]

From reading Stan The Man's posts, I think you are lucky that you don't work near him.

Costruction and WC business, undercutting and posting all night on here, busy kid aren't ya? There's a couple of them on here that just never seem to add up. Building a business by undercutting and building a construction company, then run both businesses. Then post questions about how to price jobs......

Funny old world innit.

[leapstallbuildings]

Be ruthless
I go on estates where i know there are window cleaners then i severely undercut them - Put them out of business on the estate then whipe up their business and make it mine then rise the prices to suit your price range - This allows me to grow my business, customer base, potential for further profits and raises the value of my business in the process

if thats the case m8 no more info should be given by any member here, am sorry , but you are out off line m8, business or not,

I wouldn't help him either.  I won't lower myself by insulting him the way he insulted me on here recently but W/Cs who do stuff like he has proposed end up getting a really bad reputation.  Even the customers don't respect that style of business.

[leapstallbuildings]

Getting rid of rivals also let you price you work at what you want so in the long term you can dictate however much you charge and how compact you want to make your rounds i.e allowing you to expand at whatever pace you want
Any other business this would be seen as good business

That might work if you were the only one capable of doing it. In the mid to longer term, all you would assist in doing is to drive down the rates of pay.  Of course, as you seem to be someone who builds it up to sell fast at a quick profit, you would never be around to feel the consequences of your actions.  Besides, if you were to stick around, you would probably p off enough W/Cs to create a backlash against yourself - especially if your behaviour on the forum is anything to go by.
Personally, I think you should be banned from the forum (in all your guises) anyway after the insults you were chucking around recently.