peekeclean

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video of rinsing please
« on: May 27, 2008, 06:18:36 pm »
Can someone do a video on youtube of  rinsing with the brush on as iv tryed to get the hang of it but just dont get the same results as rinsing off?
must be me but if i see it done by a pro i will  pick it up and stick with it.
I keep getting spoting when iv done it and i do use a medium crimped mono brush is this the problem??

any help
thanks joe

geefree

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2008, 10:30:50 pm »

NWH

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2008, 10:37:00 pm »
That video is how not to WFP.

Peter Fogwill

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2008, 10:42:07 pm »
Well that was the most frustrating you tube clip I have ever watched.  The amount of water used in the clip was a scandal, he must have half emptied the reservoir for that area on a couple of panes of glass.
And did you see the amount of water on the road before he was even half way through?

Peter

peekeclean

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2008, 09:09:29 am »
hi guys every video on youtube iv seen has people rinsing with brush off, i want to see how its done with the brush on the glass as it must be quicker.
And sooner or later you will need to keep the brush on the glass so i just want to get it right.

cheers joe

Peter Fogwill

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2008, 09:22:12 am »
hi guys every video on youtube iv seen has people rinsing with brush off, i want to see how its done with the brush on the glass as it must be quicker.
And sooner or later you will need to keep the brush on the glass so i just want to get it right.

cheers joe

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kidu9wUtBPM

Peter

jonah

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 09:33:28 am »
hi guys every video on youtube iv seen has people rinsing with brush off, i want to see how its done with the brush on the glass as it must be quicker.
And sooner or later you will need to keep the brush on the glass so i just want to get it right.

cheers joe

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kidu9wUtBPM

Peter
You make it look so easy  :D

peekeclean

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 09:45:03 am »
IF thats it im putting way to much effort in my windows, it did not look like you rinsed at all.
And you get good results like that allday peter??
if i could get the hang of it and still get a good finish i would only be out half the time.
How much dose the brush cost you use with out the auto bit?

cheers peter   

[GQC] Tim

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 09:57:59 am »
I was expecting the other video, where you clean the windows really quick.

Why are you cleaning at this pace in this video? Is that your normal everyday pace for cleaning windows?

jouk45

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2008, 11:21:03 am »
Can someone do a video on youtube of  rinsing with the brush on as iv tryed to get the hang of it but just dont get the same results as rinsing off?
must be me but if i see it done by a pro i will  pick it up and stick with it.
I keep getting spoting when iv done it and i do use a medium crimped mono brush is this the problem??

any help
thanks joe
this one from gardiners is much clearer  s152.photobucket.com/albums/s174/Gardiner_Pole_Systems/?action=view&current=1ad08ff6.flv

jouk45

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2008, 11:28:03 am »
ah sorry i just notice, you want the brush on, that might be a hard one to find

geefree

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 11:57:32 am »
The video link i posted was the first one i found...

peter, your video link is good and makes it look easy.

but i am a bit worried that the top frame is hardly being touched, hence dirty water may rub down the glass.

it may be me being too scared to risk , but i scrub and rinse my top frames with vigour.. as i believe if there is going to be any dirt , thats where it will run from....

just my opinion.  ;)

Ian Lancaster

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 03:44:57 pm »
Like all skills it's down to personal preference.  Some people can give a quick splash and the job's done perfectly, others give huge attention to detail and still fail.

The only real answer is practice till you find the technique that suits you.

Ionics training course tells you to rinse down the glass with sideways strokes in a shallow zig-zag with the brush 'on', but they say it only works with their 'special' brushes.

I tend to rinse 'off' wherever possible, and tilt the brush if holding it off is impractical, but I do have one area of houses where the price is far too low - so I just give them a quick 'up and down' and then side to side rinse with the brush on - they come up perfect every time ::)

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 06:09:10 pm »
The video link i posted was the first one i found...

peter, your video link is good and makes it look easy.

but i am a bit worried that the top frame is hardly being touched, hence dirty water may rub down the glass.

it may be me being too scared to risk , but i scrub and rinse my top frames with vigour.. as i believe if there is going to be any dirt , thats where it will run from....

just my opinion.  ;)
I made a short clip today on a camcorder, just working out how to upload it compress, I am not as quick as some rinsing on but the results are spotfree

jonah

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2008, 06:31:40 pm »
The video link i posted was the first one i found...

peter, your video link is good and makes it look easy.

but i am a bit worried that the top frame is hardly being touched, hence dirty water may rub down the glass.

it may be me being too scared to risk , but i scrub and rinse my top frames with vigour.. as i believe if there is going to be any dirt , thats where it will run from....

just my opinion.  ;)
I made a short clip today on a camcorder, just working out how to upload it compress, I am not as quick as some rinsing on but the results are spotfree
Im ordering the popcorn now  ;D

groundhog

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2008, 06:43:29 pm »

I made a short clip today on a camcorder, just working out how to upload it compress, I am not as quick as some rinsing on but the results are spotfree


I'm looking forward to that as well, its about time somebody else had a go!!!

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2008, 06:47:11 pm »

I made a short clip today on a camcorder, just working out how to upload it compress, I am not as quick as some rinsing on but the results are spotfree


I'm looking forward to that as well, its about time somebody else had a go!!!
My vid aint no where near as good as your Ground hog, first try of doing one on a cam I have never used.

But my logo looks good  ;D

[GQC] Tim

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2008, 07:02:20 pm »
The video link i posted was the first one i found...

peter, your video link is good and makes it look easy.

but i am a bit worried that the top frame is hardly being touched, hence dirty water may rub down the glass.

it may be me being too scared to risk , but i scrub and rinse my top frames with vigour.. as i believe if there is going to be any dirt , thats where it will run from....

just my opinion.  ;)
I made a short clip today on a camcorder, just working out how to upload it compress, I am not as quick as some rinsing on but the results are spotfree

Try encoding it in Divx to reduce the size of it. Can't you upload it to Youtube?

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2008, 07:11:19 pm »
I am ripping my house apart trying to find the lead for it, there is about 20 in the box none the right ones typicial.

brb just going to open the loft  ::)

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2008, 07:21:46 pm »
I am ripping my house apart trying to find the lead for it, there is about 20 in the box none the right ones typicial.

brb just going to open the loft  ::)
Got it, just installing cd (going to be fun)

Wayne Thomas

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2008, 07:43:02 pm »
I've just got my popcorn and drinks in.
Ian (window washers) promised to post this a very long time ago when I started a similar topic.
 I've invited the next door neighbour in as he's providing the beers tonight and Ian's providing the entertainment or possibly educational video, lol

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2008, 07:59:20 pm »
I've just got my popcorn and drinks in.
Ian (window washers) promised to post this a very long time ago when I started a similar topic.
 I've invited the next door neighbour in as he's providing the beers tonight and Ian's providing the entertainment or possibly educational video, lol
Lol it is a quick clip, I will do a better one, about 15 secs I think ish

Wayne Thomas

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2008, 08:00:51 pm »
At least you try to keep to your word Ian when you say you'll do something

cherubs cleaning

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2008, 08:38:44 pm »
ian,

come on i got 24 fosters in


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




jerry

Wayne Thomas

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2008, 09:27:31 pm »
Where's the video clip, my popcorns nearly run out, lol

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2008, 09:28:11 pm »
I can tell you this is doing my head in, no instructions  how to get of the camcorder to pc cant be just plug and play to be easy :o

Hope you have alot of porncorn, and jerry I think you will be hammered by the time I work this out, but work it out I will, even if the clip looks rubbish.

Ian

Wayne Thomas

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2008, 09:30:52 pm »
I can just imagine Jerry drunk watching this 8am when Ian has just figured out how to download it, lol. As for me I'm on a diet so no more popcorn tonight, lol

jonah

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2008, 09:38:49 pm »
I can tell you this is doing my head in, no instructions  how to get of the camcorder to pc cant be just plug and play to be easy :o

Hope you have alot of porncorn, and jerry I think you will be hammered by the time I work this out, but work it out I will, even if the clip looks rubbish.

Ian
menyana !  Do it tommorrow  ;D

Guy Gibson

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2008, 09:44:01 pm »


Ionics training course tells you to rinse down the glass with sideways strokes in a shallow zig-zag with the brush 'on', but they say it only works with their 'special' brushes.

I want one of those special brushe's - have you more details? Any details of thier courses please?


617
Left a bit, right a bit

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2008, 09:47:07 pm »
Rinse like a destroyer avoiding a torpeedo.

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2008, 09:47:36 pm »
Can't wate for the vid because I have never trusted the rinse with brush on technique. The nearest I get is with really high windows where I angle the brush so just the edge has contact.

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2008, 10:07:18 pm »
vid is uploading at the mo  :o 27 meg
Me thinks I need to get some video software,
the clip is not that good so be nice it is first attemp.
10% of it is uploaded to photobucket at the mo.

I will do a better one next week.

Ian

jonah

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2008, 10:13:44 pm »
vid is uploading at the mo  :o 27 meg
Me thinks I need to get some video software,
the clip is not that good so be nice it is first attemp.
10% of it is uploaded to photobucket at the mo.

I will do a better one next week.

Ian
I didnt understand any of what you just said ! But put me down for two tickets  ;D

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2008, 10:16:39 pm »
vid is uploading at the mo  :o 27 meg
Me thinks I need to get some video software,
the clip is not that good so be nice it is first attemp.
10% of it is uploaded to photobucket at the mo.

I will do a better one next week.

Ian
I didnt understand any of what you just said ! But put me down for two tickets  ;D
£15 a ticket no refunds, but if your quick there maybe some popcorn and fosters left.

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2008, 10:20:01 pm »
vid is uploading at the mo  :o 27 meg

Oh do get a grip. There are people all over the country stuffed on popcorn and crisps and half pizzzed waiting for this. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Chris Cottrell

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2008, 10:20:59 pm »
I'm all sorted I got a box of Stella all to myself

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2008, 10:28:21 pm »

jonah

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2008, 10:36:55 pm »
h ttp://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn88/wicks1976/?action=view&current=wfpcamfirsttry.flv


copy above delete the space from h tttp

I am now going for a beer.

Ian
I hope its " reassuringly expensive beer "

[GQC] Tim

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2008, 10:45:23 pm »


Ionics training course tells you to rinse down the glass with sideways strokes in a shallow zig-zag with the brush 'on', but they say it only works with their 'special' brushes.

I want one of those special brushe's - have you more details? Any details of thier courses please?


617

Here you go

www.windowcleaningsupplies.net/prod_show.asp?id=113

Alternatively buy it from Ionics themselves.

Helen

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2008, 01:11:22 pm »
 WW. too late for me last night so just had a look. Looks good technique, but the guy doing the cleaning....tell him not to put so must pressure on the brush, I am sure he made that porchway move ;D ;D ;D

and for all of you who had all those beers..........it was probably moving all the time!!!! ;D ;D Happy weekend to all

[GQC] Tim

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2008, 02:52:02 pm »
When you mention software, what do you mean, software for encoding the video to a smaller format, or software to create captions and that sort of stuff?

Windows Movie Maker could do for some simple editing.

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2008, 02:58:57 pm »
When you mention software, what do you mean, software for encoding the video to a smaller format, or software to create captions and that sort of stuff?

Windows Movie Maker could do for some simple editing.
to compress the video and for editing a little maybe,
The one I have at the mo takes the vid off the cam but only in small resolution which than looks rubbish when you watch it.

mark dew

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2008, 03:14:26 pm »
That vid wasn't bad. It's good you're doing this. These vids are worth pages of words and makes it much easier for people to comprehend.

When i get a half decent cam i would also do this and try to get clear, before and after shots of the windows.
Doing this with a 1st clean would be good. Also mentioning the flow rate used would be helpful with 'rinsing on' posts. And what brush/jets used would also be a good info.

Peter fogwill and alex have done this before but not any newbies (to wfp) like the majority of us.

dai

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2008, 09:07:44 pm »
I was watching the American guy, he didn't wash the top frame but then rinsed it, And when he is rinsing the top of the right pane, the water is splashing onto the left pane that he just rinsed.
It is for this reason that I would wash them both before rinsing.

I also wash the whole side of a conservatory before rinsing, Each to his own technique, as has been said previously.









cherubs cleaning

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2008, 09:38:22 pm »
ian,

well done mate looks good


just need to get good on zig zag




jerry

groundhog

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2008, 09:45:31 pm »

I was watching the American guy, he didn't wash the top frame but then rinsed it, And when he is rinsing the top of the right pane, the water is splashing onto the left pane that he just rinsed.
It is for this reason that I would wash them both before rinsing.

I also wash the whole side of a conservatory before rinsing, Each to his own technique, as has been said previously.


I tend to rinse each pane as I go, I feel that by doing this I am keeping the momentum of the water going down the glass and helping to wash all the dirt off. Not sure if this makes sense? but I know what I mean!!  :-[

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #46 on: May 30, 2008, 10:00:52 pm »
ian,

well done mate looks good


just need to get good on zig zag




jerry
I am trying as i'm told  ::) :-\

Have another vid from today but cam has gone walkabouts or packed away where I cant find it  >:( watched to make a vid tonight of something to help others, maybe tomorrow  :(

geefree

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Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2008, 12:38:06 am »
let me know if you want some lessons  ;D ;D ;D

just kidding ;)

Re: video of rinsing please
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2008, 12:44:01 am »
let me know if you want some lessons  ;D ;D ;D

just kidding ;)
lol I think I will be ok  ;)