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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: H MAN on July 04, 2019, 04:54:25 am
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Ok see that many people seem to have a whole lot of connections for different tools, brushes etc.
But the fact is that all manufactures try to make there own connections, that are unique to there handles or any other tools they
have including angle adapter connections.
Only have to check some of the pole connections and have some sort of different way of connecting there brushes.
Also take note most are not interlocking with any other tools if you may want to use on a pole.
But instead have the squeegees / scrubbers connections on a different connection.
This is when I developed the quick-lock.
The intention was to have an universal angle adapter pole connection, that could be used on all tools without the need to change your pole or connection.
Myself done this with all our tools.
Have shown numerous videos on how to do this.
And know most people are not inclined to do this which I understand.
(But if you are, try it.)
And if you happy with what have now, that's OK as well.
Maybe a manufacture may come out ready quick-lock connection systems like described.
Universal connections one day.
Here is the original video of the quick -lock.
https://youtu.be/nlPHgm03MVc
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1562226529_8BCFC247-0E62-46BA-8DA6-AEF5BB78F9BD.jpeg)Gardiners have already done it.
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If you go on Gardiners website and look under indoor cleaning you’ll find they’ve come up with most solutions. Gardiners and many others have moved away from the old threaded pole fixings commonly found on broom handles. Keep up Herman!
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In over 15 years of window cleaning I dont think I've ever had these issues. No disputing quick lock, its great for changing brushes
( I have 3 ) As for as other tools, a 3 section trad pole, an applicator and a couple of squeegees is all I've ever needed. I could , I suppose, buy an adapter from Gardiners to use trad tools on a wfp, but really, why would I want / need to ?
Maybe we are lucky here in the UK to have suppliers on a next day delivery that cover all our needs. Australia may be different.
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Just realised, I have the quick lock to unger adapter that Dave posted a pic of already gathering dust at the bottom of my tool box. I must have bought it on a whim with a load of other bits to get free postage on an order. Never used it or needed it.
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1562226529_8BCFC247-0E62-46BA-8DA6-AEF5BB78F9BD.jpeg)Gardiners have already done it.
I'v done a bit of work and modding on this myself and took it to another level. Currently the quick loc has two small holes in the sides so the small metal rivet can pop through and hold the tool in place. What i had the foresight to do was drill the other two blank sides with holes the same. So instead of being restricted to just two positions i can keep turning mine round and round and use the four positions.
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1562226529_8BCFC247-0E62-46BA-8DA6-AEF5BB78F9BD.jpeg)Gardiners have already done it.
I'v done a bit of work and modding on this myself and took it to another level. Currently the quick loc has two small holes in the sides so the small metal rivet can pop through and hold the tool in place. What i had the foresight to do was drill the other two blank sides with holes the same. So instead of being restricted to just two positions i can keep turning mine round and round and use the four positions.
So it fits on you water fed brushes all other tools you have to go on the pole??
and able to use angle adapter too??
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Here this is what I'm talking about every tool that use has a quick-lock connection.
As you can see that the orange DIY quick-locks ones are the first one's made. and still going strong.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1562296290_QUICK LOCK ON ALL TOOLS.jpg)
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Maybe write to every manufacturer out there then. For me it makes little difference as I use so few tools. Can’t remember the last time I needed to fit anything to my extreme pole other than a brush. If I needed to wagtail inside at height I keep a spare pole anyway just for that but haven’t used it for at least five years. There’s probably a good reason why Gardiners aren’t interested in trad equipment and a good reason why all the manufacturers aren’t interested in changing their designs. Ask them.
ps. how many groundhog days do you have in Australia ?????
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Here this is what I'm talking about every tool that use has a quick-lock connection.
As you can see that the orange DIY quick-locks ones are the first one's made. and still going strong.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1562296290_QUICK LOCK ON ALL TOOLS.jpg)
Looks like my scrap bin 🤔
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The picture reminded me of the movie Toystory 3. When Andy sent his toys to Sunnyside day care and they met all the mashed up toys ;D
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Here this is what I'm talking about every tool that use has a quick-lock connection.
As you can see that the orange DIY quick-locks ones are the first one's made. and still going strong.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1562296290_QUICK LOCK ON ALL TOOLS.jpg)
Thats because you spend your waking hours making all this tat.
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All this rubbish is pretty irrelevant to 90% of todays modern window cleaners
The vast majority are wfp only exterior only domestic cleaners.
The only time i take a quick loc apart is when im changing a brush thats been on 6 months or more and if its too stiif and stuck theres two screws holding the brush on instead.
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All this rubbish is pretty irrelevant to 90% of todays modern window cleaners
The vast majority are wfp only exterior only domestic cleaners.
The only time i take a quick loc apart is when im changing a brush thats been on 6 months or more and if its too stiif and stuck theres two screws holding the brush on instead.
Well that's your opinion.
Not looking at the big picture.
There are many people that use different tools on there poles.
Having one connection fits all relating to poles.
Would making changing the tools much easier.
But don't worry the industry will never let this happen.
So people are interested you can make your own universal connections.
As there are many simple ways of doing this.
But as said in the first place if you are happy to go the way your going now that's find.
I mean if you are only using a brush that you change once every now and then.
Then you would not need this.
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as pointed out gardiners have adaptors for the quick loc system - there is no requirement for what you have done...
lets see something revolutionary from you - new shaped brush, water jet system, new clamping style for telescopic poles...
Darran
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I'm looking for a cheaper DIY alternative for a set of tyres on my model T Ford soon. If I don't replace them it will fail its MOT test in October.
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It's a bit like 'Scrapheap Challenge' but without the fun!
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All this rubbish is pretty irrelevant to 90% of todays modern window cleaners
The vast majority are wfp only exterior only domestic cleaners.
The only time i take a quick loc apart is when im changing a brush thats been on 6 months or more and if its too stiif and stuck theres two screws holding the brush on instead.
Well that's your opinion.
Not looking at the big picture.
There are many people that use different tools on there poles.
Having one connection fits all relating to poles.
Would making changing the tools much easier.
But don't worry the industry will never let this happen.
So people are interested you can make your own universal connections.
As there are many simple ways of doing this.
But as said in the first place if you are happy to go the way your going now that's find.
I mean if you are only using a brush that you change once every now and then.
Then you would not need this.
In the UK thats probably 99.99% of us who don't need all these different connections.
Many of us dabbled with modifying brushes for wfp in the early days. We could buy a Bentley Brush for £2.99 and add jets for a fiver. But when Gardiners started selling purpose designed brushes for £30 we stopped DIYing them ourselves as it wasn't worth the hassle.
We still have 2 Unger Teleplus poles on the van with the fittings to use all our Unger hand tools. I also have a Gardiner adaptor to use an Unger squeege with my 40' SLX pole.
We appreciate that getting hold of stuff in Os probably isn't overnight due to the great distances involved. There is also a high cost involved. In the UK if I order stuff from Gardiners on Monday its here on Tuesday. So whilst making a DIY plan is your solution to keep on working it isn't a problem here.
I also believe you are generating issues that we just don't have to find solutions for that we don't need. In the commercial world marketers have to convince people they need their product that they never knew they needed and then sell them the solution to the need they now have that they didn't have before. I don't understand you as you gain nothing financially from your DIY solutions which might interest one in every 10,000 window cleaners. The way I see it is that its just not worth the effort.
I doubt any cleaner in the UK has a squeegee from every manufacturer. We only have Unger hand tools. I've have never been tempted to try others and if I was I would check that our current adaptors would work on the new product.
As Smudger has said before, you need to be using your DIY skills to make something that we need that we didn't realise we needed until you point out to us that we do need it.
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He’s something you could use and adapt.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1562495950_Untitled.jpg)
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The picture reminded me of the movie Toystory 3. When Andy sent his toys to Sunnyside day care and they met all the mashed up toys ;D
Have to agree! (Kids watched it on the weekend) lol
I have a few quick locks and only used them recently to use a Vikan brush to clean my car.
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So if this was something you could get ready made.
Put directly on you tools in seconds no faffing around that make it easier to use and change all your tools quickly.
Would you then use them?? :)
Or not bother and do it the hard way?? ???
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Sorry H-man, do you actually read the feedback on here? Your response doesn't seem to indicate that you do.
This is a great forum to use and to act as a soundboard (sometimes), but I think at the moment it's not the best one to promote your DIY modifications on. Perhaps promote them on a Facebook page to your locality
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Sorry H-man, do you actually read the feedback on here? Your response doesn't seem to indicate that you do.
This is a great forum to use and to act as a soundboard (sometimes), but I think at the moment it's not the best one to promote your DIY modifications on. Perhaps promote them on a Facebook page to your locality
So you think I'm promoting ??? ???
How wrong you are ::)roll
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Mate, really! I was trying to kindly say that we don't care much for these tacky modifications and your wasting your time and effort on here doing so. Perhaps another forum, closer to home would have members who could benefit from it
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Mate, really! I was trying to kindly say that we don't care much for these tacky modifications and your wasting your time and effort on here doing so. Perhaps another forum, closer to home would have members who could benefit from it
Understand what your saying and as said many times before (that if it's not your thing you don't have to read or see it .)
There are many other people that are interested doing it easier.
Also dually noted that more times then not (some people seem to have nothing but negativity to the subject at hand or even where we live.)
And like yourself have no interest or even really don't understand as said if you don't like that's OK.
But at least let the other people that are interested have a say without putting up with all the BS.
It's funny that we have the same window cleaning tools here as there in the UK and USA.
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ive rarely seen someone so blinded by their own opinion - your worse than a politician pushing a policy - absolutely no acknowledgement that another view or proof country to your own even exists
people have shown you an adaptor ALREADY available yet you post things like "if one exists would you use it - here look what I have made" - just plain crazy
Darran
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Mate, really! I was trying to kindly say that we don't care much for these tacky modifications and your wasting your time and effort on here doing so. Perhaps another forum, closer to home would have members who could benefit from it
Understand what your saying and as said many times before (that if it's not your thing you don't have to read or see it .)
There are many other people that are interested doing it easier.
Also dually noted that more times then not (some people seem to have nothing but negativity to the subject at hand or even where we live.)
And like yourself have no interest or even really don't understand as said if you don't like that's OK.
But at least let the other people that are interested have a say without putting up with all the BS.
It's funny that we have the same window cleaning tools here as there in the UK and USA.
And as Darran says above!
H-man, its not that we are not interested because we have a problem with you! We are not interested because we don't need such tack in the UK because we can easily and I mean very easily purchase these things which makes our life's very very easy and more often than not, they can be delivered the very next day!
In actual fact Weare trying to help you, not to waste your time but it falls on deaf stubborn ears.
Take care buddy, I won't feel the need to look on your threads and comment. If we all do this, then your threads will be a very lonely place
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Understand what your saying and as said many times before (that if it's not your thing you don't have to read or see it .)
There are many other people that are interested doing it easier.
Oh really? Who are these people?
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Here this is what I'm talking about every tool that use has a quick-lock connection.
As you can see that the orange DIY quick-locks ones are the first one's made. and still going strong.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1562296290_QUICK LOCK ON ALL TOOLS.jpg)
Dear me you will need a big skip for all that rubbish 😂😂😂