jacko

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"Conventional Chemicals"
« on: July 15, 2008, 10:04:27 pm »
Having been trading for 4 years,  i have always used microsplitters as my main weapon against soil. This has been very successful - results are always good. When a carpet or suite is greasy i boost the M/S by adding a mist of "Ecospotter" (now called special spotter) - this works a treat. Sometimes i use Mpower which is very good especially if boosted by "special spotter". I normally rinse with plain water or sometimes an acid rinse.

On occaisions i have used Ultrpac Renovate on greasy flotex - this works a treat.

With M/S however they do need plenty of agitation to get a top result (i use sebo duo or envirodri).

So my point is ...i am happy to use M/S in Light / Medium soiled conditions but wondered if the process would be quicker using something like powerburst, blitz, or whatever on heavy soiling.

Also head grease on suites is removed reasonably easily with my method but i go through LOADs of "special spotter".

My questions to my learned colleagues are:

What is the best prespray to use for heavy / greasy carpet soiling?

What is the best prespray to use to remove grease from suites?

What is the best prespray to use to remove grease from polyprop?

Is the conventional chemical approach quicker?

Appreciate your response....

elliott cleaning

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 10:08:17 pm »
Jacko

Is Eco Spotter,  now renamed "Special Spotter" still the same thing or is it in fact something different?

jacko

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 10:11:34 pm »
Well... it DOES the same thing! It feels like ecospotter too (if you know what i mean) This is the official replacement for it.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 10:11:49 pm »
It's the same but from a diferent supplier I believe.

Jacko instead of using Eco spotter on heavy grease on upholstery why not try Fabric Restorer from Prochem ph9 (after colour test)?

Shaun

jacko

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 10:37:11 pm »
thanx Shaun - does it need dwell time or agitation?

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 10:40:56 pm »
Both and works better hot within reason but I think you'd better read the bottle first but I can recommend it also Hydramster do Fabric Master Heavy Duty which is a bit of a beast.

Shaun

kinder clean

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2008, 11:00:47 pm »
Hi Jacko

I also use M/S with agitation and heat (One step Fineline, which is woolsafe and Zip it & zap it spotters, all available via cleansmart)  and get good results, but just done some upholstery for commercial today and wanted to try something with a bit more ping! - used Prochem fabric restorer followed with Prochem fibre and fabric rinse got great results.

Paul 



where can I buy eco spotter?


Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2008, 11:03:25 pm »
Nick at SolutionsUK

Shaun

jacko

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2008, 11:05:48 pm »
looks like Prochem Fabric Restorer's on me shppping list then!

Jim_77

Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 12:01:06 am »
Anything alkaline will break up head grease, keep in range of 9-11 but remember higher pH the more need to neutralise.

With greasy soils it's also about the temperature, greasy substances are more mobile and free rinsiong the higher temperature they get.  Think about when you fry sausages or something - if you pour the fat away straight after cooking, no problem, however if you leave it all to go cold in the pan and then tried to rinse it out with cold water you'd be there all night.

Higher rinse temperature will give quicker and better results.  On severe build-ups you can only get it out so much at a time, there is no wonder product that'll make it all vanish in one go I don't think!  Several "normal" wet passes with the wand/hand tool will give a better result and be kinder to the carpet/fabric.  Also use your HWE in combination with a nappy towel, tampico brush or even better a Minitex.  Spray, agitate, dwell, rinse, spray, agitate etc etc....

Ken Wainwright

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 08:05:39 am »
jacko

If you're happy with M/S then stick with it.  When it comes to greasy trashed carpets, add 10ml per litre of solution of pre spray of Prochem's Citra Boost. It cut's through grease like magic.  But use a rinse detergent as the d'limonene mix isn't free rinsing like M/Sers.  I use Fibre and Fabric Rinse or DFC 105, but any mild rinse will do as aggressive is not required.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

Mark Lane-Matthews

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2008, 10:16:13 am »
Grease is not Ph sensitive so a citrus or solvent based cleaner works best

                                                                mark

Jim_77

Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2008, 02:08:59 pm »
Huh?

COLIN BRIGHT

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2008, 04:32:25 pm »
ken, do you add the booster to your m/s prespay?

Ken Wainwright

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 05:19:33 pm »
Yes Colin,

10ml per litre of mixed solution.

Gives a citrus odour to the clean too.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

COLIN BRIGHT

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2008, 02:40:43 pm »
nice one ken ;D

rich hand

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2009, 04:40:01 pm »
How good is MS with Citrus Boost when compared to Powerbust etc for greasy restaurant carpets?

JandS

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2009, 11:13:04 am »
Who sells Minitex??

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Joe H

Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2009, 12:02:14 pm »
Texaterm in Weston Super Mare

rich hand

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Re: "Conventional Chemicals"
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2009, 07:25:23 pm »
when did texatherm come into this?