macc

Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2006, 08:09:39 pm »
Rubbish idea.

It takes the polish off and loses it's shine.
Just like windows done with wfp, they're flat not shiny.

And yes I do know what I'm talking about.
I'm a fully qualified Autoglym Motor show valeter. :P

Obviously not qualified in the wfp department.  ;)

D.Salkeld_Ltd

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Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2006, 11:21:33 pm »

There goe Sqeeky again..............................
another one in the bag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Squeeks you even got me going too?!?!

I wash my car Pure Water lovely job
And the windows SHINE

So Squeeky.........YOU ARE TALKING   B*******

There you DID wind me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David
Not Perfect - But Honest

Sir Squeaky

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Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2006, 11:42:57 pm »
Funny thing is though David it wasn't a wind up!

I know my car care, and pure water removes polish.
It may look shiny, but not like a polished car washed with wash and wax.

It's impossible to lean against my car, you just slide off.
There's about a millimetre of polymer on it. ;)

If you keep washing a base colour car with pure water it will fade really quickly.
Want a pink car? Just keep doing that to your red one.

I can't believe people are still disagreeing with someone who knows....
It does make me laugh sometimes this forum. ;D

macc

Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2006, 11:54:12 pm »
I cant believe im about to say this but Squeaky is right for ONCE,  :'(,  it does remove all polish & wax leaving no protection on the paint. Also any stone chips will rust quicker cause of the pure water.

I never use pure water to clean my van & cars.

Macc

macc

Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2006, 11:57:40 pm »


I can't believe people are still disagreeing with someone who knows....
It does make me laugh sometimes this forum. ;D

Am i reading right  ???

Macc

Sir Squeaky

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Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2006, 11:58:31 pm »
 ???

macc

Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2006, 12:05:42 am »
???

Us wfpers know what we are talking about but you disagree,  :o

Morph

Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2006, 08:24:51 am »
I worked with valetters for 7 years, every red car went pink over time, no matter what was done to it!

ValueValeting

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Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2006, 08:40:46 am »
I worked with valetters for 7 years, every red car went pink over time, no matter what was done to it!

That only happens if its one stage paint - There are two types of paintwork :

Single stage which is generally just the colour and no clearcoat (which is why they are more likely to fade), most older non metallic cars have this i.e red vauxhalls etc

2 stage paint has a thin base colour layer (normally metallic) with a thicker layer of laquer or clear(coat) paint on the top.




D.Salkeld_Ltd

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Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2006, 06:29:53 pm »
OK Squeeks I see your point now.

With cars you are right...........................
But windows????
You still like to wind us up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

David

Not Perfect - But Honest

paul mather

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Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2006, 07:00:36 pm »
Surely if you polish your car regularly as you are supposed to then a clean once a week with pure water will not hurt. If it is such a bad idea how come some valetting companies use.

Yet again Squeaky you can't stand to admit that other people may do things in a way that is quicker  and easier than the old trad methods.

You're right David he's just got me going as well
Use the wand of power !!


Warrington, Cheshire

Sir Squeaky

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Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2006, 07:12:52 pm »
Yet again Squeaky you can't stand to admit that other people may do things in a way that is quicker  and easier than the old trad methods.
How's it quicker with pure water than normal water? ;D

It'll slow you up, because you'll have to re-apply polish from scratch, instead of the quick whip-over wash and wax would leave you.

In fact if it's only been polished a day or so before, then wash and wax will return it to it's previous polished state, so it won't really want doing at all.

My car hardly ever gets washed, apart from now and again under the arches to remove muck build up.

It's polished before it gets dirty.
So no, I'm much quicker. ;)

Why don't you drop this now, as I've proved you wrong a hundred times over. ::)

Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2006, 07:22:37 pm »
Rubbish idea.

It takes the polish off and loses it's shine.
Just like windows done with wfp, they're flat not shiny.

And yes I do know what I'm talking about.
I'm a fully qualified Autoglym Motor show valeter. :P

Squeaks, isn't usually right, but he's wrong again.

Remember pure water is like rain water; it's just soft water; not a bleaching agent or a detergent.

Pure-water-cleaning began in the USA, aparantly, and was originally used to rinse cars.  It's best used to rinse a car after using a liquid shampoo/polish.  Rinse your car with pure water and it dries as if you've dried it with a shammy leather.

I've tried rinsing my car with my WFP, but found that using jug fulls of the stuff does a better job.  Your car dries all lovely and shiny with no 'tap water blemishes'.

You can also purchase (Wilkinsons sell them) an aparatus which uses De-ionised water to rinse your car. 

So, to conclude, pure water is like rain water; just water with no impurities; it's not a bleach or a detergent and Squeaks is wrong; again.

Sir Squeaky

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Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2006, 07:40:35 pm »
Ok fair enough I won't say any more on the subject, as you're all determined to argue with one of the country's most knowledgeable valeters. ::)

Purely because it's me...
If it was any other valeter you'd say "Oh yeah? Cheers mate, didn't realise"

You just think your bloody pole is the answer to everything.
It's not for shining cars.

If it can't even take polish off a smooth car, then how can it remove stubborn grease off a window? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LOL!!!!  1-0 ;)

Absolutely full of it the lot of you......

Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2006, 07:55:28 pm »

If it can't even take polish off a smooth car, then how can it remove stubborn grease off a window? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LOL!!!!  1-0 ;)

Absolutely full of it the lot of you......

Pure water cleaning has its limitations; it can't remove bar-b-cue grease off patio windows for example, or paint, or putty either.  It also can't cure cancer, piles or genital warts.

As many have said here, it's not a magic wand.

But it is excellent for washing windows; and rinsing a car after you've used a shampoo with a liquid wax.

Roger,

You're quite welcome to some pure-water of mine, to try out on your own car.

You'll be impressed with the results.  Honest.

 

Sir Squeaky

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Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2006, 07:58:25 pm »
But it is excellent for washing windows; and rinsing a car after you've used a shampoo with a liquid wax.
If you're still using wash and wax, then it doesn't matter what it's rinsed with. ???

ValueValeting

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Re: car washing with pure water
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2006, 08:18:48 pm »
We don't use pure water to clean cars due to space (+ cash ;D) constraints, but I know of no reason why pure water cannot be used to rinse a car down. In fact I am of the understanding that the "flash car wash" kit includes a di module in it to name but 1 mass produced version.
I can also dig out (seen on web - would have to find the url..) many industial size units designed specifically for the automotive market.

However

You should never, ever, ever use a brush to wash a paying cutomers car with as it will scratch the paintwork causing the swirl marks seen on so many cars ** these scratches build up over time - so the window cleaner(s) who says I did mine once with it and there was no scratches is misleading himself and the customer if he ever states that it would cause no damage to the paintwork.


** Carry on doing it though, coz capable & knowledgeable valeters can charge a mint sorting out those sorts of problems in paintwork ;D