[colin purewater]

hi people,
                   ive just priced a school up this morning for windows and gutters, i went for the £1 per window approach, counted all the window and jotted them down, some really  small paines i just added 2-3 together and called it a pound,  got home and added it all up and it comes to £240 its all ground floor and a dodle to do think it could be done easy in under a day on my own.

does this seem ok to you? its my 1st big ish job ive priced and would like to get it but dont want to do it for nowt!

am i right with the £1 per paine say 3by 2 -2 by2?

any advise would be great

many thanks

colin

[Mike_G]

If you think £240 is fair for an easy days work then stick that price in, personally I would go in lower but I dont charge £240 a day. That said you need to be sure you can definately do it in a day because if it takes longer you might well of shot yourself in the foot, on schools I tend to work out how many hours it will take times that by my hourly rate and then add 10% just incase

[colin purewater]

thats what i was thinking, i would of said £150 for a day
but going of the £1 per window this is what it adds up too,

would you stick to day rates on commercial work then instead of the price per window?


many thanks

colin

[Wc Solutions]

in my view - £1 is more based on houses really.

you take into account the time for each house and a £1 per norm window and £2+ for bay and patio doors normally works out about right for house pricing.

bigger jobs i dont use £1 per window.

take into account access to each window.
when were they last cleaned or how dirty and future frequency of cleans.

i mainly price on time needed to do the job right, along with the above.

on smaller com jobs take into account how close to next job etc ...

then there little things like parking etc .. but being a school you would just need to work out how many days it will take and what you want per day...

[Wc Solutions]

what did you do about the gutter price?

still going with the clarke 30L?

we are going to order a few for some schools we do yearly over the summer hols.

[colin purewater]

gutters arnt to bad ive put £1.50 per meter on that adds up to just over £280
and not going for the clarke, ive got freinds in high places at a large super market chain maintenace company and also a national maintenace company, who can put alot of work my way
with the gutters so im diggin deep and getting an ets or omni vac 14 m reach, it will pay for its self in no time  ( i hope)

thanks colin

[Wc Solutions]

gutters arnt to bad ive put £1.50 per meter on that adds up to just over £280
and not going for the clarke, ive got freinds in high places at a large super market chain maintenace company and also a national maintenace company, who can put alot of work my way
with the gutters so im diggin deep and getting an ets or omni vac 14 m reach, it will pay for its self in no time  ( i hope)

thanks colin

nice one mate, good luck with that one.

£1.50 per metre? we charge at least £3 - £5 on big com work. saying that it depends how bad they are etc ...

[colin purewater]

there only about 12 ft up  not much in them at all so thought that would be a fair price,
i hear lots of differnt prices for gutters
what would you charge for  182m of 12 ft high gutters with easy access mate? thant really havnt got much in?

[Wc Solutions]

there only about 12 ft up  not much in them at all so thought that would be a fair price,
i hear lots of differnt prices for gutters
what would you charge for  182m of 12 ft high gutters with easy access mate? thant really havnt got much in?

have to see it really mate

but to be fair to you, you did say not much in and easy access so £1.50 per m could be spot on for this job.

im sure you had a rough price in your head before you added it all up - was it far off?

sometimes you just see a job and a number just pops in your head

[colin purewater]

ha ha ye it was more when i added it up!! 

cheers

[Wc Solutions]

ha ha ye it was more when i added it up!! 

cheers

thats not good 

normally you get a rough idea of price and just spurt it out - then think poop why did i do that!

get home and work out properly and find oh ok i went in a little higher.

if your thinking of cheaper prices then dont get rooped into spurting out the low price in your head!

[colin purewater]

not  that daft mate havnt put the price in yet!

[TomCrowther]

When people say £1 a window, is that £1 for a large bay £1 for a frosted single pane bathroom window? It doesn't make sense to me to quote that method.

[Wc Solutions]

not  that daft mate havnt put the price in yet!

must be daft! your a window cleaner  :

[colin purewater]

 

[Wc Solutions]

When people say £1 a window, is that £1 for a large bay £1 for a frosted single pane bathroom window? It doesn't make sense to me to quote that method.

ok example say a big ish 4 bed house with a average sized con.

has a large ish front door £1

above that a small kids bedroom £1

large bay window - living room £2 - £3

large bay above - main big bedroom £2- 3

small door glass on side and small en suite window above - £1 - £2 for both (depending on size say)

round the back 3 tops

two bedrooms - £1 each

patio door £2

kitchen window £1

very small glass on door ( call it a £1 with the small bathroom window above)

then the con £5


so that say £15 - £20 for a large ish 4 bed house with con.

depends on clean frequency etc ... but you get the idea

[TomCrowther]

Cheers WC

[Tom White]

in my view - £1 is more based on houses really.

you take into account the time for each house and a £1 per norm window and £2+ for bay and patio doors normally works out about right for house pricing.

bigger jobs i dont use £1 per window.

take into account access to each window.
when were they last cleaned or how dirty and future frequency of cleans.

i mainly price on time needed to do the job right, along with the above.

on smaller com jobs take into account how close to next job etc ...

then there little things like parking etc .. but being a school you would just need to work out how many days it will take and what you want per day...

I agree with wc.

On larger properties with a lot of windows that you can do in bulk, without moving the van or having to deal with more than one customer, then £1 a window works out too high. 

For these I price by time.

Schools (IMO) aren't good jobs; they get done once-per-term tops and they always (in my experience) ask for more than one quote, and will go for the cheapest.  At one I quoted for, I tried to explain to the head about safety, insurance, risk and method statements, but the guy was in such a hurry to get rid of me that he obviously didn't want to know; so I didn't bother quoting, 'cos I just knew it would go to the cheapest quote, and nothing else would be taken into consideration.

This was a few years back mind; so mabye things have moved on a bit since then.

[Nick Day]

Colin (or anyone that might be interested)

 Not sure when you're thinking of buying but just to let you know in approx 6-8 weeks we'll be launching a 3000 watt 90 litre machine. If you want to give us a call or e-mail we can give you more details, you might be suprised at the price it will be.

[colin purewater]

YES WOULD BE NICK!

think i will have the money before then but its defo worth a chat,

il give you a call this week

many thanks

colin