CARPET KNIGHTS

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2012, 08:40:22 pm »
If flushed / rinsed correctly power burst drys neautral

Everything dries neutral things aren't acidic or alkaline until they are wet

Colin Day

Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2012, 08:41:52 pm »
If you have a TM the flush is greater so providing your water ph is around neutral then the dilution will send it that way, without getting into a debate of porty to TM you do clean differently with a TM.

I only use an acid rinse if I'm protecting something, as for pre sprays I use different once but don't be fooled into thinking because products are eco friendly or leave no tracable residue that they are set within the Woolsafe parameters, Pure clean is a Micro splitter and has a ph9 not sure what the ph of SPM is?

Shaun
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Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2012, 08:41:59 pm »
Marketing bumf invented about 15 years ago by Amtech.

Shaun


Paul Moss

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2012, 08:49:03 pm »
If flushed / rinsed correctly power burst drys neautral

Everything dries neutral things aren't acidic or alkaline until they are wet

So how can a carpet be left in an acid state or alkaline state?

Tony Rowley

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2012, 08:50:35 pm »
If flushed / rinsed correctly power burst drys neautral

Everything dries neutral things aren't acidic or alkaline until they are wet

So how can a carpet be left in an acid state or alkaline state?

Please enlighten us ordinary folk oh master!!!!!

Andrew Briscoe

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2012, 08:56:30 pm »
If flushed / rinsed correctly power burst drys neautral

Everything dries neutral things aren't acidic or alkaline until they are wet

So how can a carpet be left in an acid state or alkaline state?

Please enlighten us ordinary folk oh master!!!!!

He will have to charge you to enlighten you  ;D

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2012, 08:56:40 pm »
It's the time it takes to dry (or stay damp for) that can do the damage (if at all) a good rinse will neutralise it BUT if the carpet is left to dry in a high ph state then the next cleaner could in theory have a potential problem if he/she is then going in to clean or stain remove.

All ifs and buts.

Shaun

Paul Moss

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2012, 09:00:10 pm »
Ph will register if water is added as goron says as you need hydrogen. If you want to get an accurate ph result test when nearly dry or dry and add a small amount of pure water.

Jim_77

Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2012, 10:51:02 pm »
The problem with pH isn't after it is dry, it is whilst it is drying... the longer the drying time if pH left high, the more likely browning is to occur.  Simple as that.

Residue/resoiling however is another issue entirely :)

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #70 on: March 15, 2012, 10:57:49 pm »
Yeah but no but yeah but ph has never been confirmed as a contributing factor of resoiling.

Shaun

mark_roberts

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #71 on: March 15, 2012, 10:58:08 pm »
Has anyone ever seen or browned a carpet after cleaning.  Only ever seen browning from a water damage problem.

Mark

Jim_77

Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2012, 11:02:59 pm »
Shaun, I was referring to residue causing re-soiling, not pH ;)

Mark, I've never browned a carpet from cleaning but know of some that have, and fixed a few that have.  Always 100% of the time the drying time has been long.  It's the length of time it's wet PLUS the alkalinity that browns wool.  Each factor on its own in my experience not a big problem.

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #73 on: March 17, 2012, 04:36:21 pm »
I have fixed a few for a customer of ours. Cotton upholstery and cream wools mainly. Given up telling him that a 100psi pump upgrade in a 1x2 stage motor machine running double clean on every job is asking for trouble.

His view is that its only about 5% of the time he has a problem.

Paul Moss

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Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #74 on: March 17, 2012, 07:07:14 pm »
I have been told that Jim has browned a couple of carpets in the past when he has had a few ;D

Jim_77

Re: Tried SPM again
« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2012, 09:28:26 pm »
Browned a few other things too but that's a different story ;)