[Steven Taylor]

Picked some up from B&Q I think it was about £2.40. I know this company supplys all sorts of professional carpet products (googled them).

It works, well! I might be inclined to start buying tins of this instead of my usual from Alltec & Prochem? A couple of squirts here & there.....

[Simon@arenaclean]

What stains have you removed with it, and how much is it a tin? What's the PH

[Steven Taylor]

I have so far removed; oil spots, make up, general black dirt spots, sprayed it under rads before towelling (that worked well) and around back of door arckitraves (spelling) and towelled off, just seems to tackle anything I throw at it.

I think it was about £2.40 a tin.

Ph I don't know, don't think it would say on tin either but I could be wrong. Doesn't worry me about ph anyhow as I rinse off thoroughly after.

It really works a treat and less expensive than all the different spotters I'm using at the moment.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

This will be a solvent so therefore has no readable ph level.

Shaun

[Steven Taylor]

Carpets come clean with Stikatak!
The success of cleaning up the wine spilled, coffee knocked over and food dropped during Christmas has not always been great, however there is one product on the market that has been proven to really work.

The success of sells through B & Q, John Lewis and major carpet retailers has resulted in Stikatak’s Carpet Stain Remover becoming the consumer's number one choice for lifting stains, according to recent research.

Designed to work on the majority of carpet and upholstery materials in the home, car or workplace, Stikatak’s Carpet Stain Remover can be used without water or rinsing. The instant foaming action lifts dirt and grease within 15 seconds and the anti-static properties combine a pleasant smell with effective cleaning.

As the market leader in carpet accessories for over 18 years, Stikatak has acquired an enviable reputation with flooring trade professionals for its range of effective and efficient products.

"We are naturally delighted by the success our Carpet Stain Remover is having with the consumer." said John Whiting, Stikatak managing director. "Accidents in the home involving pets, wine and children often result in an expensive carpet being ruined. However, the immediate effectiveness of Stikatak's Carpet Stain Remover to remove all trace of the stain has given us an opportunity to expand our product range into the consumer market."



Further details of the Stikatak range are available from the Products page or by contacting:

[Steven Taylor]

Designed to work on the majority of carpet and upholstery materials in the home, car or workplace, Stikatak’s Carpet Stain Remover can be used without water or rinsing. The instant foaming action lifts dirt and grease within 15 seconds and the anti-static properties combine a pleasant smell with effective cleaning.

As the market leader in carpet accessories for over 18 years, Stikatak has acquired an enviable reputation with flooring trade professionals for its range of effective and efficient products.

[Steven Taylor]

I removed these stains by using this product and that's all I used

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Looking on the B and Q website it's £3.98.

Shaun

[peter maybury]

It is poop compared to vanish
Peter

[Steven Taylor]

The price was a guess cos I bought alot of other gear. But still, it works really well.

[Steven Taylor]

It is poop compared to vanish
Peter

These products are manufactured by industry professionals (so it's says on the tin) lol

Don't care what it is, it's doing the job, squirt, agitate, dwell, towel off and rinse - perfection!!

[Adam P]

would you say those stains wouldn't have come off with an alternative product you have? seems like it's doing a good job just wonder if it's really worth having another product to carry about

[Steven Taylor]

would you say those stains wouldn't have come off with an alternative product you have? seems like it's doing a good job just wonder if it's really worth having another product to carry about

They would have come off with other products, but a mixture, I've decideed today to ditch everything else and stick with this all round product. Used it on more stained carpet today, came off easily & quickly - stress free stain removal!

[Jamie Lindsay]

if it does what you say it does its a neat little item to have

[Adam P]

my problem with using this is that customers may end up buying it too if it's successful, and then you'll end up turning to a customers house to clean with stuff they can get which could result in them thinking why hire you to do what they can do much cheaper

plus if you turn up with "pro" chemicals then when they ask where can they get them you can say you can't but you can buy good spotter from me, however you can't get them to buy spotter from you if you use something else which you consider better which they can also buy.

[Jamie Lindsay]

tell them what they want to hear.... as steven says its produced by industry pro's hehe

[garyj]

It's no good for you GCS, you only use Eco products anyway and this is a solvent.

[Adam P]

no i don't gary. 

[garyj]

But your website says you're Surrey's leading Green cleaning company!

Haven't we had this argument before 

[Adam P]

my website says we use the best product to get the job done to the best standards that we can achieve gary; in fact it's not once mentioned that we are green or anything about eco products...

all i remember from before was you embarrassing yourself which it seems you're doing again from the way i've tried to had a good convo on here and give my thoughts on a product but you've randomly decided to change that like before.

[garyj]

Errr, this is from your website.....

"We are serious about trying to be eco responsible where possible, so we have researched the products we use and then researched some more to ensure the companies we buy from and the producers of the products share the same ecologically responsible philosophy as us.
The cleaning products we use are natural, plant-based, and most importantly are non-toxic.

Our favourite producer is bio-D as they not only offer really great cleaning products but are also based in the UK, which means that the products we use from them have racked up very few transport miles, reducing the environmental impact even further. Another reason we like to use bio-d products is that all their bottles are made of recyclable HDPE (high-density polyethylene).

Another fantastic company which produces top of the range bio-degradable products is Bentley Organic; also based in the United Kingdom. Bentley Organic products are competitively priced and provide some of the best natural, fresh smelling products available by using high grade oils.

Although based in the United States, we are big fans of Earth Friendly. They use a large percentage of our 3 favourite essential oils (Orange, Lime, and Lemon) in the ingredients meaning they are highly effective, offering great value as a little goes a long way.
We don't just stop at the cleaning products

To help improve the indoor air quality in your home or office we are committed to using only the best cleaning equipment; we use top of the range HEPA filtered vacuum cleaners, great for allergy sufferers as the HEPA filter removes at least 99.97% of airborne particles."

http://www.greencleansolution.co.uk/?p=about&s=products

Surely you're not misleading your customers are you??

You're a bit like those vegetarians that eat fish and chicken & have  a go at ladies that wear fur coats while you wear a leather jacket.

As you said before, it's just marketing and it's down to me to or the customer to prove you aren't using 'Green Eco' products. I still call it lying through your teeth.

[Adam P]

nope. not misleading them one bit. i really have no clue what's wrong with you tbh. you were an embarrassment to this forum in the other post and are once again in this thread.

can we get on with the subject of this thread and continue to give advice about a product a user has found an wants to share with the other nice people on here or would you like to once again derail it for whatever personal gain you get out of picking on people on a public forum? i thought what i had to say was a good point and valid reason why others should think twice about brining in a product that customers can buy and use themselves.

p.s i trade under more then one name but whatever quickly go find a way to attack me on that gary i wouldn't expect much more from someone like you. you're doing this forum wonders

edit: i guess as you don't like to mislead customers you'll be putting on your website that you've recently done damage worth £22k iirc and that'll also be going on all your advertising etc? or have you got brains so can see why you might hide that from customers?

[garyj]

So lets open it up to the forum..........

Is it misleading to claim to use eco green products and then don't? Or am I an embarrassment for pointing out your lies??

There's only one way to find out  :

[garyj]

edit: i guess as you don't like to mislead customers you'll be putting on your website that you've recently done damage worth £22k iirc and that'll also be going on all your advertising etc? or have you got brains so can see why you might hide that from customers?

If they ask me I will own up to it, no I won't publicise it, but if asked " did you...." then the answer is yes. I might be a dick head but I'm not a liar.

[Adam P]

So lets open it up to the forum..........

Is it misleading to claim to use eco green products and then don't? Or am I an embarrassment for pointing out your lies??

There's only one way to find out  :

you aren't a liar? wow how big of you. hope you feel so good about yourself now. what a role model you are. 40 something guy picking on a 22 year old who's just started his own business. great work gary you're a valued member of this forum. :

i don't understand the problem here. i claim to use eco products so when my customers call green clean that get that service. when my customers call my normal cleaning company then they get another service. nothing misleading or even wrong with that, though i'm sure you'll try to find something, it's only a matter of time until you pick holes

next you'll be picking holes in my logo thanking me for...

"reminding me how damn good I am, I'd forgotten how much I know".

[Wayne Dean]

"TUT TUT TUT" Steven you are a naughty man, now look what you've gone and bloody started! 

[garyj]

Don't get all moral with me, you're the liar. I don't care how old you are, that is not a defence for lying.

Do yourself a favour, change your website and stop misleading the gullible of Surrey, as I said before, there are far more eco friendly companies in Surrey, one of which regularly wins awards, you're not even in that league.

[garyj]

So lets open it up to the forum..........

Is it misleading to claim to use eco green products and then don't? Or am I an embarrassment for pointing out your lies??

There's only one way to find out  :

you aren't a liar? wow how big of you. hope you feel so good about yourself now. what a role model you are. 40 something guy picking on a 22 year old who's just started his own business. great work gary you're a valued member of this forum. :

i don't understand the problem here. i claim to use eco products so when my customers call green clean that get that service. when my customers call my normal cleaning company then they get another service. nothing misleading or even wrong with that, though i'm sure you'll try to find something, it's only a matter of time until you pick holes

next you'll be picking holes in my logo or something just as silly.

LAUGH MY ARSE OFF. That is superb. I hate to get personal and itss not something I usually do, but you are a first class idiot.

[Adam P]

nah i think it's working good for me. why would i change when it's working ok? to please you? but you mentioned in another thread that you find it fun to do this.

why can't i get all moral with you? so you're allowed to attack me but when i say about you i'm not allowed? great how condescending you're gary it's such a joke. but at least you're not a liar aye

[garyj]

nah i think it's working good for me. why would i change when it's working ok? to please you? but you mentioned in another thread that you find it fun to do this.

why can't i get all moral with you? so you're allowed to attack me but when i say about you i'm not allowed? great how condescending you're gary it's such a joke. but at least you're not a liar aye

No you would change it because it's lies and morally wrong.

How can you preach one thing to the gullible but do something else. It's Bait and Switch.

You've bored me now and shown yourself to be a liar and cheat, nothing more to add really.

[Steve. Taylor]

STOP IT OR I WILL TELL THE TEACHER LOL

[Adam P]

nah i think it's working good for me. why would i change when it's working ok? to please you? but you mentioned in another thread that you find it fun to do this.

why can't i get all moral with you? so you're allowed to attack me but when i say about you i'm not allowed? great how condescending you're gary it's such a joke. but at least you're not a liar aye

No you would change it because it's lies and morally wrong.

How can you preach one thing to the gullible but do something else. It's Bait and Switch.

You've bored me now and shown yourself to be a liar and cheat, nothing more to add really.

it's bait an switch? come on you're a grown man. even you gary can see it's nothing related to bait and switch. i even explained it in simple terms for you but i guess that wasn't enough. i'll right it in bold like you did so you can see it clearly this time yeah? would you like thatgary? would that keep you entertained

we trade under 2 different names. one called green clean. another i don't want to post as it'll only result in you doing one predictable thing gary. when customers ring green clean they get GREEN CLEANING PRODUCTS AS THAT'S WHY THEY RING when customers ring my other business which has nothing to do with green cleaning, that get whatever its required to do the job to the best standards. it's very simple gary and i hope you're able to read this and understand it now. i'll summarise in case you don't.

we trade under 2 different names. one is for green cleaning. one is not. it's pointless to bait with the green then switch as the customer wants green chemicals so we've got the job already regardless of results.

[Adam P]

wow would you look at the time. i need to get up early so i can bait and switch my foolish customers and then head off to BnQ to get this product so i can lie so more to my customers 

no reply from gary yet. guess he must be googling to find our other company and is writing his only negative review of it.

[garyj]

Bottom line is............

You claim to be the leading eco company in Surrey, you claim to use eco products. You mislead your customers in to thinking you are a fully paid up tree hugger, when the reality is you'll use anything. You've just jumped on a band wagon to catch  the gullible and I don't think that is fair on the real eco companies.

You bait them with eco lies and switch when it suits you. You're the joke and embarrassment.
 
You're in a hole now stop digging.

Yep, off you go   : Night niiiight 

[jasonl]

Bottom line is............

You claim to be the leading eco company in Surrey, you claim to use eco products. You mislead your customers in to thinking you are a fully paid up tree hugger, when the reality is you'll use anything. You've just jumped on a band wagon to catch  the gullible and I don't think that is fair on the real eco companies.

You bait them with eco lies and switch when it suits you. You're the joke and embarrassment.
 
You're in a hole now stop digging.

You are correct Gary , he made a mistake , and instead of owning up dug a big hole , end of

Yep, off you go   : Night niiiight 

[PaulKing]

Its like the playground here Fight Fight

P.s a good pre spray will outperform that, and works out a heck of a lot cheaper,
 

[Phill]

Guys, put your handbags away and get back to the subject. This forum is supposed to be for cleaners to help other cleaners, not for the purpose of deciding who is bending the truth on their websites to generate a bit more business. We all do it and its not lying, its called sales... we tell the client what we think they want us to hear in order to get the work, anyway I am also going off the subject.
I agree with what others have said and that is that if you pull this out it makes you look like a cowboy. It is the same as turning up with a Dyson to pre vac their carpet, we all know it will do as good a job but we dont want to be using something they can buy from Comet and probably have under their stairs! It's all about putting on a show to convince the client that you are worth what they are paying you. IMO
Phil

[Adam P]

You are correct Gary , he made a mistake , and instead of owning up dug a big hole , end of

what mistake did i make jason? i can't see any mistakes i've made. all i can see is gary jumping on a chance to have a go at me in public

when do i switch gary when i feel like it?

ah finally some sense on these forums from phill.

[PaulKing]

oh do put a sock in it please !

[PaulKing]

Just checked and

[PaulKing]

Seriously,
Buy your supplies from a proper distributor like Restormate it will work out cheaper and you won't look like a cowboy using domestic products.

[expro]

GCS could the logo and be misleading?? because to me it suggests you use environmentally

friendly products. :

[Adam P]

expro: how much of this thread have you read? to me it seems you've missed a large part of it : : :

[Steven Taylor]

Hey, this was MY thread 

Handbags at dawn spring to mind  :

[garyj]

It's good fun though 

[garyj]

expro: how much of this thread have you read? to me it seems you've missed a large part of it : : :

Think he missed the part where you say you're Surrey's leading green eco company, promote green products on your site then use something else. ( I couldn't even be bothered to mention the eco type logo).

So far found 4 eco type websites for you but not the 'standard' one you also claim to promote  : : :.

I'm bored, can't wait for Corrie at 8  :

[Neil Williams]

my website says we use the best product to get the job done to the best standards that we can achieve gary; in fact it's not once mentioned that we are green or anything about eco products...

Maybe I'm wrong but aren't you the same person who p-ssed off Chris Straker some time ago when setting up by vertually copying his logo and contents of his website?

[Neil Williams]

I'm bored, can't wait for Corrie at 8  :

If you're not doing a lot tomorrow pop along to Longparish for a chat where I'll be for most of the day.

[garyj]

Are you! Might well do, managed to book a small one in for 9 after a cancellation today, it was a EOT 3 bedroom and she said they can't afford it so will forego the deposit! Must be right in it!

Think my pump went 'pop' today, hoping its just the fuse. Was using the van at a steep angle and it really didn't like it, got someone coming to have a look later.

Hopefully have time to grab a coffee in the Cricketers?

I've got your mobile so will call you tomorrow.

[Neil Williams]

Don't forget to bring Sarah with you cause I'll have my chief planner and financial expert with me

[richy27]

your all a bunch of liars the nly genuine green cleaner is up road from me

[Steve. Taylor]

You can't get greener than me, or wetter behind the ears

[Adam P]

Think he missed the part where you say you're Surrey's leading green eco company, promote green products on your site then use something else.

no he mentioned the logo only so that can't be why he asked.

neil williams: nope not me

funny how no one has a problem with how gary has behaved in this thread. i've heard many times people say this forum is full of ****s but i always thought that it can't be true. in the general cleaning section they are much better and disagreed with gary's behaviour, here most seem to love backing him up for making crazy claims in a thread that it's not needed in. fair enough if someone was on these forums saying i've seen green clean and thinkig of using them then he's welcome to give his opinion, but i simple offered good advice and that was enough for gary.

you can only find 4 gary? shot guess i must have dreamt the others as the wonderful, superior gary can't find it. sorry everyone for telling my customers i use green and then when a different customer ask for a different service i also provide that. sorry

thought i should offer an explanation of bait and switch for gary's sake

"bait and switch suggests that the seller will not show the original product or service advertised but instead will demonstrate a more expensive product or a similar product with a higher margin."

:

one of my favourite things about this is gary sits there using any opportunity to have a p take on a public forum of my sites, and then is searching desperately to find my other one, whilst he then removes his site so no one on here can find it. real rich of you gary. judging others when you then hide so you can't be judged. i don't get why you're so desperate either as i've never attacked you, but you continue to go out of your way to find things about me, and no one on this forum (or at least the carpet area) has said anything about that

[garyj]

You really are the little victim aren't you.

I think I've been backed up  because you're wrong, your claims are wrong, your ethics are wrong, your wording is lies and you drop yourself in it all over the place and are too thick to realise it.


Now stop crying and leave it alone, you're a lying opportunist who has jumped on a bandwagon, end of.

It's been emotional

[Adam P]

ah predictable reply from gary. anything else you want to add to that? i've never heard you say the bandwagon one before so that's another to add to this list. lying opportunist.

keep them coming gary on this public forum. "i'm too thick to realise" lol

[Sarah Kirby]

one of my favourite things about this is gary sits there using any opportunity to have a p take on a public forum of my sites, and then is searching desperately to find my other one, whilst he then removes his site so no one on here can find it. real rich of you gary.

Actually Adam, Gary really couldn't be bothered to search for your other sites, its just not that important to him......it was me! Fair enough you may trade under another company too which offers customers other choices but don't you think you set yourself up by talking about using solvents under the name of "Green Clean Solutions"? :

[Adam P]

i gave my advice about taking them into a customers house about why it may not be a wise idea to use something a customer can get. i never mentioned about them being solvent or not as it clearly had nothing to do with using them to be green, but instead a bit of advice about it. i don't set me self up for what gary has done. you think it was called for how he's behaved on this public forum?

gary said that he'd found 4 but not the other one i mention, don't you think he's set him self up for the response? : seems to me you might be a bit biased

you know what i realised is such a joke about this whole situation. i posted in this thread to ask first if the op really thinks it's worth having an extra item in the van that other items he already has can do, and also then if it's worth bringing in an item that the customer can get.

from this gary then ends up attacking me post after post after post after post after post after post. then people back him up. then i'm told to drop it. but how? i've posted in this thread nothing about my being green and gary attacks me then i'm told to drop it. so what everyone is saying they'd drop it so that once again (as this isn't the first time he's attacked me on this in a thread it once again wasn't called for) he can go on and attack me. every time i post in a thread i'm expecting gary to attack, then others to back him up and then tell me to stop crying blah blah blah. what's amazing is not one single member has said anything bad about how gary's behaviour, he's now even getting his other half in to help him out. shall i drop is then sarah and just wait for gary to attack me again forhim to go on about how he'd never lie, he'd just attack a 22 year old trying to run his own business when it's un called for and then attack over and over and over and over. then he'd be very condescending and patronizing expecting me to stop as he's now bored etc.

anyone else want to come to gary's aid? has he got other family members signed up on here he can get to post on.

now how many replies of gary (plus now sarah) once again finding another reason why i'm the bad guy in this thread for doing what i don't know. i've lied, i'm moralling bad, i'm a cheat, i'm thick, i'm stupid, and users come on and defend gary crazy

would other users saying drop it just say fine that's ok, i'll just ignore it and then once again get another post attacking them in another thread by another user. course not. you'd say aye? what you on about. you'd defend yourself

[Sarah Kirby]

Funnily enough I do have a mind of my own and Gary doesn't get me to do anything.....I'm actually in this business myself so just as entitled to be on this forum with an opinion. I am not a member of Garys family nor have I been signed up to add to his posts. Does Gary need anyone else to come to his aid? I don't think so.

My advice to you Adam is STOP BITING! Life is full of people who will differ in opinions, wouldn't it be boring if we were all alike?!

Oh and he didn't actually say he had found the websites if you read back a bit 

[Adam P]

oh come on sarah please talk some sense. please just for one second have a thought.

yes well done gary he didn't actually say he found the website, what a wonderful chap he really is... but wait for it...

"don't you think you set yourself up by talking about using solvents under the name of
"Green Clean Solutions""

when did i say that? when did i say i use solvents whilst under the name of green clean? run to the aid of gary who doesn't need it, but find a reason to have a go at me sarah, well done!!!

anyone else want to have a pop? i'm sure gary will be back soon to the aid of sarah now. i won't get an apology, i wont get anyone saying good point gcs, i'll get more reasons why i'm doing something wrong.

stop biting you say sarah? surely that's the advice gary should be getting from members and not mentioned to me. i come on here to post advice to a member using a product, gary attacked. so ok i don't bite. then i post in another thread, and once again completely uncalled for gary attacks. where is the sense in this thread? i've seen a glimpse of it once or twice.

the list is huge or what gary's said on this public forum. i can't see how he's going to defend himself as it has been uncalled for. he can give an opinion of my services when others are discussing it but this isn't the case. i even asked in the first few posts to keep this thread on track and gary couldn't stop. i may just list everything he's said as i've got it all here written down and screen shot, and that's from the other threads gary's done the same.

[Sarah Kirby]

You did say you don't just use eco friendly products in an earlier post and your logo on this forum is the one for Green Clean Solution......need I say more? The two don't tie up.  I'm not attacking you, I'm pointing out the obvious :

[Adam P]

when did i say i use solvents under green clean solution? when did i say anything about even using this product myself? when did i say i would use it and that's whilst i'm there for green clean? it doesn't tie up as i never did. but i'm some how a bait and switch guy?

surely the "obvious" thing should have been once i said we trade under another name also then gary gone ok fair enough? isn't that obvious? or at you only picking on me? when in fact it's not obvious any way. i said i can use this product as i trade under another name. however i also never said i'd use this product any way. gary just jumped at the chance. i asked him to stop but he couldn't, then he talks down to me saying "sotp crying" you're thick" etc. isn't it obvious what's the only wrong thing in this thread and that's the guy you've come to the aid of as have plenty of other members some reason?

[Sarah Kirby]

Sssssh, its bedtime