chris scott

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2013, 08:18:28 pm »
I have done all sealers as a 1 coat to see how they work out, yes it does dry to almost invisible finish. Just did a water test on the test areas, (8 hours after applications) yours dry's the quickest along with the Resiblock, followed by both Lithofins and lastly the Aqua-Mix, all the sealers seam to bead up well when wet, so doing their job so far.

One of the "design parameters" was easy of use. To eliminate Operator/weather error and also to ensure foot traffic could be returned to the area as soon as possible. The area can be used virtually straight away although full curing takes much longer
When it/they have cured fully try hot engine or diesel on them see how they repel something like that.
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Roger Oakley

Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2013, 09:37:10 pm »
London stone was started on march of this year and they have just received their water jet and table saw last month. It's a new company so you may be mistaking them with some one else.The new company is owned by Polish!!!
Unless you are talking about a different London Stone, then you are very wrong. Where about's is the"London Stone" you are talking about based?

Roger Oakley

Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2013, 09:40:27 pm »
I have done all sealers as a 1 coat to see how they work out, yes it does dry to almost invisible finish. Just did a water test on the test areas, (8 hours after applications) yours dry's the quickest along with the Resiblock, followed by both Lithofins and lastly the Aqua-Mix, all the sealers seam to bead up well when wet, so doing their job so far.

One of the "design parameters" was easy of use. To eliminate Operator/weather error and also to ensure foot traffic could be returned to the area as soon as possible. The area can be used virtually straight away although full curing takes much longer
When it/they have cured fully try hot engine or diesel on them see how they repel something like that.

I would Chris but unless I empty some engine oil over the paving in my back garden I won't be doing that test, plus Mrs O wouldn't be to pleased!!!
I quick question have you done test's on block paving with this? would it be a sand binder as well as a sealer?

chris scott

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2013, 11:13:05 pm »
No.... It will not bind sand.
It s mainly for stain resistance,ingress of fluids etc.
It has very good resilience to chewing gum and graffiti making removal a lot easier . It will not break down at high temperature (up to around 300c) and unaffected by most chemicals so ideal for environments were  continuous cleaning etc is taking place.
The down side we have nothing to remove it when its has being applied!
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chris scott

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2013, 07:14:42 am »
I,m not selling it .
Kevin martin has a range of products  that are suitable for sandstone if you have a job on.
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Simon@Pristine Pathways

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2013, 08:32:30 am »
Ok can you send me 75l to do some testing with. I will give you some valid feedback.

chris scott

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2013, 06:33:14 pm »
Ok can you send me 75l to do some testing with. I will give you some valid feedback.
400sqm is a big test patch...how will you get it off if it goes wrong. I will send you 750ml try a little corner first ;)
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Kev Martin

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2013, 07:24:58 pm »
London stone was started on march of this year and they have just received their water jet and table saw last month. It's a new company so you may be mistaking them with some one else.The new company is owned by Polish!!!

Amir

You should be able to run them ragged then and take serious advantage!!!

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Rob_Mac

Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2013, 07:55:03 pm »
Chris

What are the credentials of your 'man in his shed', is there a COSHH sheet and there has to be a little more to this set up than you are letting on.

It would be good to get a non flowered - actual tale of the chemicals that you are offering as samples.

A genuine enquiry

Rob

chris scott

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2013, 08:20:22 pm »
Chris

What are the credentials of your 'man in his shed', is there a COSHH sheet and there has to be a little more to this set up than you are letting on.

It would be good to get a non flowered - actual tale of the chemicals that you are offering as samples.

A genuine enquiry

Rob
The "man in the shed" is an industrial chemist ....The product is a Fluoropolymer, the raw ingredients made by DuPont.  Data sheets are available.
What do you want to use it for i will tell you if it is applicable?
"A genuine enquiry"  How was your holiday ? ....the pictures looked fantastic!
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Roger Oakley

Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2013, 08:31:49 pm »
London stone was started on march of this year and they have just received their water jet and table saw last month. It's a new company so you may be mistaking them with some one else.The new company is owned by Polish!!!

Amir

You should be able to run them ragged then and take serious advantage!!!

K Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd

And I have still not had an answer as to "who" this "London Stone" is?

Rob_Mac

Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2013, 08:35:40 pm »
See

We can have a sensible conversation!!

The holiday was one of the best I have had!!

I have multiple avenues for a decent surface protector, from your contact or kevin and or another.

I would suspect it would cope with or be one of, for, walls, block, slab, concrete, the usual!

Maybe a sample or would that be pushing the relationship, too soon?

I am working to try and gain over 4000m2 of high street cleaning, with another forum member.

It would be nice to offer a sealer option.

Rob ;D

chris scott

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2013, 09:30:58 pm »
http://www.urbansurfaceprotection.com
This will give you an insight into the technology behind it. Anybody interested could purchase smaller amounts from them with full back up and support (I have no connection with them). For larger amounts and/or own label there are other options.
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Matt Gibson

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2013, 11:51:33 am »


Now thats how you apply sealer!!  :o ;D

chris scott

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2013, 07:01:47 pm »
Ease of use ..eliminate  user error! ;D
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Simon@Pristine Pathways

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2013, 10:54:04 pm »
Chris,
You do talk some bo""cks at times mate, Indian Sandstone is one of the easiest natural stones to seal IMO, I have sealed very many metres of it, so it does dry out with no problems, might depend if you are using a crap sealer that will fail, but if you are using a decent product and the surface is dry, then no problems, why do you like to make things difficult for people.

Roger what do use to seal indian stone? Ive got a few hundred mteres to do for a customer.
Thanks Simon

You have a few choices really, Lithofin Stain Stop, Lithofin Stain Stop Plus, Aqua-Mix Enrich and Seal, there are others that are decent, what finish are you looking to active?

Roger most of my customers just want to enhance the colour as it appears when it is wet.
I have just been back to one I applied resiblock colour enhancer to last year and when I pressure washed it loads of the sealer came of in patches it now looks shocking. So been put of using that so thats why I want an alternative for future jobs.


Roger Oakley

Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2013, 06:50:48 am »
Chris,
You do talk some bo""cks at times mate, Indian Sandstone is one of the easiest natural stones to seal IMO, I have sealed very many metres of it, so it does dry out with no problems, might depend if you are using a crap sealer that will fail, but if you are using a decent product and the surface is dry, then no problems, why do you like to make things difficult for people.

Roger what do use to seal indian stone? Ive got a few hundred mteres to do for a customer.
Thanks Simon

You have a few choices really, Lithofin Stain Stop, Lithofin Stain Stop Plus, Aqua-Mix Enrich and Seal, there are others that are decent, what finish are you looking to active?

Roger most of my customers just want to enhance the colour as it appears when it is wet.
I have just been back to one I applied resiblock colour enhancer to last year and when I pressure washed it loads of the sealer came of in patches it now looks shocking. So been put of using that so thats why I want an alternative for future jobs.


The Resiblock is on test for me at the moment so haven't had that issue, but for me sealing Sandstone then either Aqua-Mix enrich & seal or Lithofin Stain Stop Plus are my preferred products as both are colour enhancers.

Simon@Pristine Pathways

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2013, 06:32:11 pm »
Aqua Mix Enrich N Seal if you want the best:

http://www.tilinglogistics.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=60&product_id=69

or
8
LTP Colour Intensifier & Stain Block:

http://www.tilinglogistics.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=60&product_id=93

Check the coverage on both products because the Aqua Mix goes a lot further and is actually less money in the long run.  It also out performs the LTP both in appearance and longevity!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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Kevin, what coverage do you get from these products?

Kev Martin

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Re: wet look indian stone sealer
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2013, 07:50:14 pm »
Aqua Mix Enrich N Seal if you want the best:

http://www.tilinglogistics.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=60&product_id=69

or
8
LTP Colour Intensifier & Stain Block:

http://www.tilinglogistics.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&path=60&product_id=93

Check the coverage on both products because the Aqua Mix goes a lot further and is actually less money in the long run.  It also out performs the LTP both in appearance and longevity!

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics

Kevin, what coverage do you get from these products?

Simon

Coverages in attached links mate

http://www.custombuildingproducts.com/products/aqua-mix/enhancers/aqua-mix-enrich-n-seal.aspx
Aqua Mix Enrich N Seal
12.5 M2 per Litre worst to 37M2 Per Litre Best

http://ltp-online.co.uk/images/tds-Colour_Intensifier.pdf
LTP CI & SB
2.5 M2 Per litre worst to 10M2 per litre best

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
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