[Ascjim]

Have any of you guys stopped yet? I'm thinking working until the end of the week and calling it quits.

I've got everyone in their own vans now and they have zero contact with anyone from start to finish.  Then it's up to them to be responsible out of work.

The thing I'm worried about is will we still get the coronavirus employee retention scheme if I decided to close down and not the Government closing us.

I've got 5 weeks work booked up. If we stop now at least the guys will have work to do when they get back and then I can start getting new work in (we clean gutters, renders).

What are you guys doing?

[Soupy]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

[Soupy]

I'll be fighting for the 80% but with Boris and his shower of charlatans in power I won't be holding my breath.

[alank]

Holiday for two weeks then review.

[Ooooooog]

I'll be fighting for the 80% but with Boris and his shower of charlatans in power I won't be holding my breath.

This.

[Jay Le Huray]

staying at home until further notice, our lives are more important than money

[NWH]

A massive get out of paying us and people like us will be abide by the 2 meter rule,I wouldn’t be surprised if our job gets mentioned later today. If you can work with no contact continue to do so or if you work alone,I can see it coming if gives us no choice then. 

[jay moley]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

[p1w1]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

[P @ F]

No holiday left wouldn’t bother me ,  the last time I had time off was 9 days after having a stroke 

[simon w]

Worse case scenario told to take unpaid leave until needed again

[johnwillan]

We "stood down" yesterday which spilt over to today, however under the current directive each operator will return to work if they feel comfortable to do so.

Most are Self Employed Franchisees, several have decided to wait until Monday, things may change by then.

I am taking the same approach with employment   

[jay moley]

staying at home until further notice, our lives are more important than money

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

Your posts don’t hold as much weight when you also brag about how financially set you are for many years to come.

“Walk a mile in a mans shoes” and all that.

I think what soupy is doing is an example of a good employer.

Not sure whether that comment is aimed at me? I'm not financially set.

If soupy employees people on a contract then forcing them to use their holiday up is unethical and just wrong.

If he uses sub contractors then he doesn't employ. Different scenario.

[Soupy]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

It was either that or close the company.

[Jonny 87]

staying at home until further notice, our lives are more important than money

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

Your posts don’t hold as much weight when you also brag about how financially set you are for many years to come.

“Walk a mile in a mans shoes” and all that.

I think what soupy is doing is an example of a good employer.

Not sure whether that comment is aimed at me? I'm not financially set.

If soupy employees people on a contract then forcing them to use their holiday up is unethical and just wrong.

If he uses sub contractors then he doesn't employ. Different scenario.

Sorry wrong Jay! Got the quotes Mixed up.

[Ascjim]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

It was either that or close the company.

It's actually up to the employers when staff take holidays.

[jay moley]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

It was either that or close the company.

It's actually up to the employers when staff take holidays.

You can't force employees to take their holiday when it suits you.

An employment lawyer would take you to the cleaners.

[G Griffin]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

Soupy's hardly benefitting from this, is he?

[G Griffin]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

It was either that or close the company.

It's actually up to the employers when staff take holidays.

You can't force employees to take their holiday when it suits you.

An employment lawyer would take you to the cleaners.

Have you considered that they might have agreed to it?
He's had a chat with them.

[jay moley]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

Soupy's hardly benefitting from this, is he?

No he isn't. And it's difficult to know what to do.

[G Griffin]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

Soupy's hardly benefitting from this, is he?

No he isn't. And it's difficult to know what to do.

It is but I think we'll hear something soon.

[jay moley]

Do you know what, I take it back.

I don't know his situation.

[Soupy]

Do you know what, I take it back.

I don't know his situation.

Look, it's not ideal for anyone. Just off the phone with my sister, she works for a largish catering firm. Unpaid leave. Indefinitely. She asked if she could use holidays and they refused. I could've done that but I like my team and want to do the best by them.

My staff have agreed to take their holidays now, depending on how this pans out I'd certainly consider giving them extra holidays if that's possible. Like everyone else though, I don't know what is going to happen.

[P @ F]

Good on Soupy I say !
At least they still have jobs for now ,  and look at the weather , it could have been pi55in down .
And I think he is the kind of boss we would all  like to have if we weren’t SE !

The chap that owns the Weatherspoons chain of pubs just laid em all off saying
 “ Get a job in Tesco “   See ya !

[Ascjim]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

It was either that or close the company.

It's actually up to the employers when staff take holidays.

You can't force employees to take their holiday when it suits you.

An employment lawyer would take you to the cleaners.

Yes you can but you need to give 2 days notice per holiday pay.

[Ascjim]

I've decided, we will work until Friday then full pay for 2 weeks and see what happens. Hopefully I can claim the 80%, if not it's not the end of the world.

[Soupy]

I've decided, we will work until Friday then full pay for 2 weeks and see what happens. Hopefully I can claim the 80%, if not it's not the end of the world.

I think that's a good decision. There's twenty of us in total so if we get nothing from the government it's going to be tough but we'll get through it.

I feel like this is a key moment in this pandemic and when it is over I'll look back and be happy with the call which is the same as yours, pretty much.

[jay moley]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

It was either that or close the company.

It's actually up to the employers when staff take holidays.

You can't force employees to take their holiday when it suits you.

An employment lawyer would take you to the cleaners.

Yes you can but you need to give 2 days notice per holiday pay.

I'd love to work for you.

What's your firm called: Hitler Window Cleaning Services?

[Missing Link]

The chap that owns the Weatherspoons chain of pubs just laid em all off saying
 “ Get a job in Tesco “   See ya !

Fake news.

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/wetherspoons-sets-record-straight-wages-3978279

[trevor povey]

aup gents

just wondered if anyone in a similar situ..got 2 lads that help us out one of the lads wage drops below 118.00 due to him looking after his daughter as his mrs been the main bread winner ironically in the NHS...anyone know  if he his entitled to some form  of benefit?? ..

[Smudger]

Soupy - surely you need to put them on furlough- this is the only way to qualify for the (upto) 80% - paid holiday means they won’t get the aforementioned government money

Darran

[dazmond]

A massive get out of paying us and people like us will be abide by the 2 meter rule,I wouldn’t be surprised if our job gets mentioned later today. If you can work with no contact continue to do so or if you work alone,I can see it coming if gives us no choice then.

fingers crossed.....personally id rather be allowed to work than get handouts off the government......

[KS Cleaning]

I was asked by a customer last week if I was glad I don’t employ anymore given the current situation. Of course I replied, out of all the guys I employed over the years I probably would have supported maybe 10 of them, the other 40 or so would av been sent packing.

[G Griffin]

A massive get out of paying us and people like us will be abide by the 2 meter rule,I wouldn’t be surprised if our job gets mentioned later today. If you can work with no contact continue to do so or if you work alone,I can see it coming if gives us no choice then.

fingers crossed.....personally id rather be allowed to work than get handouts off the government......

Most would. The handouts would be because of government policies. They are changing the market, not us.

[Soupy]

Went to the office this morning.

30 cancellations including our biggest contract.

This is going to sting for some time.

[davids3511]

Enforced holidays for two weeks (probably three now).

So you're using up their holiday for them, so you benefit.

That's nice of you.

Well, he's trying to make sure they have a job to return to. Better the join the 500k applying for universal credit?

[Missing Link]

Went to the office this morning.

30 cancellations including our biggest contract.

This is going to sting for some time.

That's bad news.  And are these definitely cancellations rather than a 'put on hold'?

It's got to be tough for people in your position; I know I'm a wind up merchant; but I'm not totally without empathy.

Ish.

[davids3511]

Went to the office this morning.

30 cancellations including our biggest contract.

This is going to sting for some time.

That's hard, because you have so many it seems so much worse too. Not nearly as big as you but because there are 4 of us and I see all the cancellations it feels so much worse than when I was on my own but in reality its just 4 times more. Hope some of that wasn't gibberish.