Total shine cleaning services

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Prices up north..!
« on: July 24, 2013, 04:46:36 pm »
On a break in sunderland, staying at my mums for the week, 3 bed semi she has and she pays £3.50, she was shocked when I told her we charge £10 for these in Milton keynes, mind you there's 3-4 of them and they do a good job on the glass at speed but top of the frames are slowly going black.!

Graham

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2013, 04:54:19 pm »
lol, £3.50. Surely its not worth doing them at that price, even if you were claiming benefits too

Michael Peterson

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2013, 04:57:50 pm »
in newcastle my average price is 15.50

Michael Peterson

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2013, 04:58:54 pm »
the guy can do 10 in a day for 40 quid and thats a night in the social club at about 1.80 a pint in mackem land :-)

Total shine cleaning services

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 05:00:09 pm »
Saying that, whilst studying they done my mums in 6-7 mins and have a few around here, 6 an hour is still making £20+ an hour, the lad who owns it is still making a profit on the hourly rate is he not..?

Graham

DG Cleaning

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2013, 05:03:52 pm »
I'd say it's a bit cheap for up here.
My Dad pays £4 for his large semi?

AuRavelling79

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2013, 05:09:53 pm »
Saying that, whilst studying they done my mums in 6-7 mins and have a few around here, 6 an hour is still making £20+ an hour, the lad who owns it is still making a profit on the hourly rate is he not..?

Graham

When you say 6-7 mins - what did "they" do exactly.
It's a game of three halves!

DG Cleaning

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2013, 05:13:47 pm »
Saying that, whilst studying they done my mums in 6-7 mins and have a few around here, 6 an hour is still making £20+ an hour, the lad who owns it is still making a profit on the hourly rate is he not..?

Graham

When you say 6-7 mins - what did "they" do exactly.

They do glass quickly no frames, doors etc.
It's quite common for there to be 3 or 4 working together trad

roundbuilder

Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2013, 06:14:14 pm »
Totaly ridiculous!
£3.50 to drive to a house, get equipment out weather it be wfp or trad, do the work with obsticales in the way ie climbing gates, trailing hose to back avoiding dog/cat/fox poo, then having to go back and collect as surely they wont send a £3.50 cheque.
My example above is so why a min charge of £10 should be the norm otherwise it realy isnt worth it nomatter how many you have in a row. I have verey compact work but i treat every job singily no way would i be happy doing a £3.50 house or a row of 10 £3.50 houses. A row of 10 £10 fronts or a row of 10 f&b for £12/£15 is much more appealing and with the times!
I started in 2003 and my min price was £7 then so to be £3.50 would be going back to the 80's or early 90's. total madness how anyone can clean whole houses forsuch low prices honestly even guys on here saying how great £6 houses are it Realy annoys me that some cleaners dont value there time per property and that you are doing a service for them and they are laughing at you behind your back for charging such looooow prices. Put them up reguly and always have a min price. If its a crap area where £3.50 is the norm(lol) then move areas why work yourself silly for peanuts!. I know i wouldnt.

DG Cleaning

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2013, 06:19:51 pm »
Totaly ridiculous!
£3.50 to drive to a house, get equipment out weather it be wfp or trad, do the work with obsticales in the way ie climbing gates, trailing hose to back avoiding dog/cat/fox poo, then having to go back and collect as surely they wont send a £3.50 cheque.
My example above is so why a min charge of £10 should be the norm otherwise it realy isnt worth it nomatter how many you have in a row. I have verey compact work but i treat every job singaly no way would i be happy doing a £3.50 house or a row of 10 £3.50 houses. A row of 10 £10 fronts or a row of 10 f&b for £12/£15 is much more appealing and with the times!
I started in 2003 and my min price was £7 then so to be £3.50 would be going back to the 80's or early 90's. total madness how anyone can clean whole houses forsuch low prices. Realy annoys me that some cleaners are so deluded living up north or not!.

I'm not saying in certain areas that you won't get the prices you mentioned but if you go round with a minimum £10 round here you'd take a very very long time to build any sort of round and even then it wouldn't be compact.
You're up against teams of trad lads more than happy to do a 3bed semi for £4

roundbuilder

Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2013, 06:25:02 pm »
Totaly ridiculous!
£3.50 to drive to a house, get equipment out weather it be wfp or trad, do the work with obsticales in the way ie climbing gates, trailing hose to back avoiding dog/cat/fox poo, then having to go back and collect as surely they wont send a £3.50 cheque.
My example above is so why a min charge of £10 should be the norm otherwise it realy isnt worth it nomatter how many you have in a row. I have verey compact work but i treat every job singaly no way would i be happy doing a £3.50 house or a row of 10 £3.50 houses. A row of 10 £10 fronts or a row of 10 f&b for £12/£15 is much more appealing and with the times!
I started in 2003 and my min price was £7 then so to be £3.50 would be going back to the 80's or early 90's. total madness how anyone can clean whole houses forsuch low prices. Realy annoys me that some cleaners are so deluded living up north or not!.

I'm not saying in certain areas that you won't get the prices you mentioned but if you go round with a minimum £10 round here you'd take a very very long time to build any sort of round and even then it wouldn't be compact.
You're up against teams of trad lads more than happy to do a 3bed semi for £4
I also get teams of trad lads doing them for £6 down here but it still doesnt stop me building work at the prices i feel are right! If i had my way my min would be £20 but that would be much harder to achieve but then again it would still be possible! Its all in the mindset and how much effort you put into your business! Even if it meant traveling 40 miles to earn £200 instead of 5 miles to earn £80 id use my head and go further afield.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2013, 06:25:33 pm »
Totaly ridiculous!
£3.50 to drive to a house, get equipment out weather it be wfp or trad, do the work with obsticales in the way ie climbing gates, trailing hose to back avoiding dog/cat/fox poo, then having to go back and collect as surely they wont send a £3.50 cheque.
My example above is so why a min charge of £10 should be the norm otherwise it realy isnt worth it nomatter how many you have in a row. I have verey compact work but i treat every job singaly no way would i be happy doing a £3.50 house or a row of 10 £3.50 houses. A row of 10 £10 fronts or a row of 10 f&b for £12/£15 is much more appealing and with the times!
I started in 2003 and my min price was £7 then so to be £3.50 would be going back to the 80's or early 90's. total madness how anyone can clean whole houses forsuch low prices. Realy annoys me that some cleaners are so deluded living up north or not!.

I'm not saying in certain areas that you won't get the prices you mentioned but if you go round with a minimum £10 round here you'd take a very very long time to build any sort of round and even then it wouldn't be compact.
You're up against teams of trad lads more than happy to do a 3bed semi for £4

i dont think you are right.  for many people £10 isnt a lot of money.  they would be happy to pay £3.50, but just as happy to pay £10.  they just arent price sensitive.

some people are price sensitive, so even when they are paying £3.50 they would be open to getting a lower rate.  it's just simple economics.

it's not long ago when Starbucks started that the norm was 30p for a cup of coffee in a polystyrene cup.  they came in charging £1.50 odd for a coffee, and people lapped it up.  they wanted the better tasting coffee, in a nicer cup, with better service, and weren't bothered with paying a little more.
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Michael Peterson

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2013, 06:29:16 pm »
that is a really good quote mate

windiewasher

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 06:30:37 pm »
I average about tenner a house and price very few at less than a tenner.
I have found out theres a bloke charging 16 to 18 per house im charging around 10.i also know other that charge around 5 or 6 quid.
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GB Window Cleaning

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 08:09:32 pm »
I average about tenner a house and price very few at less than a tenner.
I have found out theres a bloke charging 16 to 18 per house im charging around 10.i also know other that charge around 5 or 6 quid.

Where is your update for june?  ???

DG Cleaning

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2013, 08:21:42 pm »
Totaly ridiculous!
£3.50 to drive to a house, get equipment out weather it be wfp or trad, do the work with obsticales in the way ie climbing gates, trailing hose to back avoiding dog/cat/fox poo, then having to go back and collect as surely they wont send a £3.50 cheque.
My example above is so why a min charge of £10 should be the norm otherwise it realy isnt worth it nomatter how many you have in a row. I have verey compact work but i treat every job singaly no way would i be happy doing a £3.50 house or a row of 10 £3.50 houses. A row of 10 £10 fronts or a row of 10 f&b for £12/£15 is much more appealing and with the times!
I started in 2003 and my min price was £7 then so to be £3.50 would be going back to the 80's or early 90's. total madness how anyone can clean whole houses forsuch low prices. Realy annoys me that some cleaners are so deluded living up north or not!.

I'm not saying in certain areas that you won't get the prices you mentioned but if you go round with a minimum £10 round here you'd take a very very long time to build any sort of round and even then it wouldn't be compact.
You're up against teams of trad lads more than happy to do a 3bed semi for £4

i dont think you are right.  for many people £10 isnt a lot of money.  they would be happy to pay £3.50, but just as happy to pay £10.  they just arent price sensitive.

some people are price sensitive, so even when they are paying £3.50 they would be open to getting a lower rate.  it's just simple economics.

it's not long ago when Starbucks started that the norm was 30p for a cup of coffee in a polystyrene cup.  they came in charging £1.50 odd for a coffee, and people lapped it up.  they wanted the better tasting coffee, in a nicer cup, with better service, and weren't bothered with paying a little more.

Try coming to Barnsley with those sorts of prices and see how far you get, this is quite a deprived area.
Don't get me wrong I've got some decent priced houses but people round here are used to having their windows done every 2 weeks for very little money.
They don't care how its done or whether you wash the frames and doors just as long as the glass is ok.
I charge more than the prices mentioned but I'm the exception not the norm.
I quoted £40 to clean some facias on a bungalow the other week the lady nearly fainted her last windy did them for £25.
I get this reaction a lot but I stick to my guns and gradually I'm raising the prices but its not easy.


DG Cleaning

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2013, 08:29:57 pm »
There is an upside though.
If I move the van more than 3 times a day then I regard it
as not being compact.
I've got one round where I park up, pull the reel nearly all the way out and work for a full day ;D

home6442

Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2013, 08:30:57 pm »
I personally wouldn't clean a 3 bed semi for £3.50 but there are plenty who will
and as money gets tighter there are plenty of customers who will move to these people.
Also as jobs get fewer there will also be plenty of people willing to clean at these prices.
How many of your customers are public sector workers who used to get great wages but are now
facing pay freezes and job loses.
How many own businesses that are under pressure.
How many are seeing their household bills getting higher and higher monthly.
I still remember all my builder mates saying they wouldn't get out of bed for less than £60 an hour
and are now working for minimum wage and consider themselves lucky to be earning.
Yes lets all travel 40 miles to the better money until it becomes saturated and gets as bad as the area
you left.
You might be surprised what you will be prepared to work for before you get your day in.
Sorry for all the doom and gloom. :(

Positivity

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2013, 08:48:05 pm »
Sorry for all the doom and gloom. Sad
Don't be - that's the way it's going.
Stiffed more and more - especially by young ones with kids - they are the worst customers on the planet.
Prices here are really under downward pressure quoting reasonable but not getting them.
This is just the start.
We are doomed.
 :( :( :(

DG Cleaning

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Re: Prices up north..!
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2013, 09:04:13 pm »
Well I'm positive despite previous comments.
My average price is going up and I'm going to have a serious bash at canvassing any I get will be at decent prices although I think it will take time I'm up for the challenge.
Negativity never gets us anywhere :D