deandevy

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SMOKE DAMAGE TO WALLS AND CEILINGS
« on: June 26, 2005, 11:49:02 pm »
HI, I HAVE RECENTLY BOUGHT A FIRE DAMAGED PROPERTY.  WHAT IS THE BEST THING TO USE TO CLEAN OFF THE BLACK SMOKE.  I HAVE TRIED WATER AND A CLEANING AGENT NOT SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR SMOKE DAMAGE BUT THOUGHT I'D GIVE IT A GO.  THIS JUST MADE EVEN MORE MESS.  ANY SUGGESTIONS AS I HAVE A WHOLE HOUSE TRY AND DO!!! :-\

martin19842

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Re: SMOKE DAMAGE TO WALLS AND CEILINGS
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2005, 12:20:32 pm »
hi there,

firstly you need to neutralise the somke damage, the way to do this is with an alkaline cleaning solution,

a suggestion firstly would be to vacuum away the sooting, or dry ice blasting.

regards

martin

deandevy

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Re: SMOKE DAMAGE TO WALLS AND CEILINGS
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2005, 09:53:04 am »
Hi

Thanks for your reply.  There isn't really much soot to be cleaned away, the fire happened a while ago.  It is just the black that has gone into the paint left on the ceiling.

Would I have to hire a machine to dry ice blast or is this done by a specialist company?
What alkaline cleaning solution would you recommend? 
After this can the walls and ceilings then be painted?

Thanks

Claire

John_Flynn

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Re: SMOKE DAMAGE TO WALLS AND CEILINGS
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2005, 06:10:49 pm »
Try Prochem Ultrapac Renovate, used for cleaning carbon deposits etc.
I get better looking each day!!

John Kelly

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Re: SMOKE DAMAGE TO WALLS AND CEILINGS New
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2005, 11:14:24 pm »
You need to remove all the excess smoke residue from every surface as a starting point. The way to do this is by using a high alkaline cleaner. This reduces the acid in the residues to help prevent ongoing damage.
Don't expect to be able to remove this by using a bucket and solution, as soon as you ring out your first cloth you will have a bucket of oil.
The way to do it is to put the solution into a  hand sprayer, spray the wall and wipe off with a cloth, for the ceilings spray the cloth. You need to use a clean section of cloth for each wipe.
The best cloths are terry towell industrial rags available in 10 kilo vacuum packed bundles from a janatorial supplier, 10-15 quid. Don't expect the surfaces to be clean, they will still be black & streaky.
Once you have removed all the excess residue you still can't just go ahead and paint as the remaining soot, there will be some, will bleed through the paint.
The surfaces need to be sealed using a sealer specified for the job. These are available through your normal cleaning suppliers or specialist paint shops.
This is the easiest and most cost effective method, just make sure you are meticulous as any areas missed will damage your resulting re-decoration and could be the source of an ongoing odoour problem.
PS it helps to add a little deodouriser to your alkaline solution.
I have done hundreds of these and never had any problems.