richywilts

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fell down a manhole at showroom
« on: April 27, 2011, 09:00:23 pm »
we went to enquire today at a car showroom near cheshire oaks when ste who works for me popped in to enquire i went to look at a porsche cayenne as i was walking over some grass iv lost my feet after walking on somethin n somersaulted throwing keys in to the air and when getting to my feet n dustin meself off i was a fair distance from an open manhole, there were two valeters nearby who came over too see if i was ok n said u should claim as i was putting the manhole cover back in place i said its ok im not hurt but now im actually in some pain down left side of neck n down my back bumb on elbow and bruising on foot.
hurting me bending over feeding baby

would i have a good case for a claim i did mention it in showroom but didnt record anything

what actions should i take
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richywilts

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 09:33:28 pm »
bump
Richard Wiltshire
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Pope vader

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 09:35:16 pm »
go hospital as u will need it recored at hospital,  go back and report the accident  and ask for cctv footage

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2011, 09:36:07 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

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 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Ian101

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2011, 09:42:45 pm »
My mate Mark Lampkin will sort u out

tacky

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2011, 09:47:34 pm »
contact del boys grandad .he fell down mikes celler n put a claim in .in fact he fell down quite a few cellers

g newton

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2011, 09:48:21 pm »
no wonder my insurance premiums are so f___ki-g  high !!!

Ste M

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2011, 09:53:06 pm »
so you finally went to the garage i told you about then richy? speak to the owner and let him know what happened, take it from there, by the way if you sue them then kiss goodbye to getting any cleaning work off them ;D

the bfg

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2011, 10:35:26 pm »
we went to enquire today at a car showroom near cheshire oaks when ste who works for me popped in to enquire i went to look at a porsche cayenne as i was walking over some grass iv lost my feet after walking on somethin n somersaulted throwing keys in to the air and when getting to my feet n dustin meself off i was a fair distance from an open manhole, there were two valeters nearby who came over too see if i was ok n said u should claim as i was putting the manhole cover back in place i said its ok im not hurt but now im actually in some pain down left side of neck n down my back bumb on elbow and bruising on foot.
hurting me bending over feeding baby

would i have a good case for a claim i did mention it in showroom but didnt record anything

what actions should i take
















get some photos of it and get a witness and get across to the pool to see paul rooney

martinsadie

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2011, 10:37:40 pm »
go to spec savers and take more notice of your surroundigs in future

G Griffin

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2011, 10:39:30 pm »
contact del boys grandad .he fell down mikes celler n put a claim in .in fact he fell down quite a few cellers

It was Uncle Albert.
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bobplum

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2011, 11:41:40 pm »
you sure it wasnt your wallet moving causing you to loose balance ;D

mci services

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2011, 11:51:53 pm »
get a grip, I hate all this claim mentality, watch where you are walking and don't fall over in future, it could be you getting sued and then you would be on here moaning about insurance premiums going up

richywilts

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2011, 01:58:23 am »
iv been back to the site and the man hole cover isnt secured and can be moved with ur fingetr tips il take a video tmoz in daylight cudnt take it tonite its a real danger and lucky nothing serious happened i am actually suffering pain down by neck etc so would you slag me off if it was whiplash in a car, imagine if it was an old woman who fell n broke her leg n led to a blood clot and a stroke or death.

why are we all so health and safety conscious with how we work when you go on some one elses work patch and it not safe u think we should turn a blind eye, i was in pain feeding my 4 month old daughter what would happen if i had seriously hurt myself n cudnt work due to an unsafe manhole cover who sum one is negilable for
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bobplum

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2011, 06:56:05 am »
if i go as a witness can have 25% ;D ;D

SPE

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2011, 07:11:06 am »
If you had seriously hurt yourself and could'nt work then by all means claim, but by the sound of your post that is'nt the case, btw you say you were walking across grass, not like it was an open manhole cover slap bang in the middle of a pavement.

simon w

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2011, 07:44:32 am »

Thats Karma "For not paying your emloyess lunch breaks".  :D

Ian101

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 08:07:45 am »
if i go as a witness can have 25% ;D ;D

I know u wasn't there cos you were outside my customers house that I do for £18 SHOUTING that u would do it for a tenner  :o :o ....... so I want 25% of your 25%  ;)


Lee GLS

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2011, 08:17:01 am »
Richy, are you working today? Or is it that bad the you are having a sick day.

Have you ever slept funny in bed and woken up with a bad neck? If so did you sue your bed?

If you are worried about old people or anyone else falling down it then pursue who is responsible fir the upkeep of the cover and get them to repair it, or if you are that worrier you could pay for it yourself

AJ

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2011, 09:32:13 am »
Did they not have man hole cover.  :)

gordonswindows

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2011, 08:03:15 pm »
Cmon, grow a pair it was your own fault

you only wanted to brag about the awful Porsche anyway

In fact go back to the showroom and thank the guy cos when you slipped the meteorite that fell from the sky just missed taking your head off

Gordon
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gordonswindows

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2011, 08:09:49 pm »
Oh and you need to fill in the blanks on your web site terms page

http://www.windowcleandirect.co.uk/terms.html

Try writing your own next time rather than "use" someone else's

Gordon

ps People in glass houses

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2011, 08:38:31 pm »
as i was walking over some grass iv lost my feet after walking on somethin n somersaulted throwing keys in to the air and when getting to my feet n dustin meself off i was a fair distance from an open manhole,

Am I missing something here.
The title says FELL DOWN A MANHOLE whilst the description of the event sounds anything but falling down a manhole.
I hate this claim mentality stuff that we've imported from the USA. It's always someone elses fault apart from your own. Try looking where you're walking, those amazing items we were given called eyes are there for a reason.

richywilts

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2011, 09:25:05 pm »
Oh and you need to fill in the blanks on your web site terms page

http://www.windowcleandirect.co.uk/terms.html

Try writing your own next time rather than "use" someone else's

Gordon

ps People in glass houses



dont know what ya on about i didnt write the terms for my website i had my website built by roodee webdesign
Richard Wiltshire
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richywilts

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2011, 09:30:40 pm »
think ya all got this wrong the man hole cover wasnt secured properly its not as if iv walked into an open man hole so what if i claim against it thats my decision n i pay more than enough in insurance three vehicles cost me over 4grand a year so a nice little claim can contribute to them payments
Richard Wiltshire
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Lee GLS

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2011, 09:42:53 pm »
think ya all got this wrong the man hole cover wasnt secured properly its not as if iv walked into an open man hole so what if i claim against it thats my decision n i pay more than enough in insurance three vehicles cost me over 4grand a year so a nice little claim can contribute to them payments

and thats why everyone insurance goes up, you should be a footballer, they are a bunch of puss'ys  too, i hope that you will be ok for money this month as you are quite clearly badly hurt from you accident, was it boring being at home all day done nothing because you were not able to work because of the pain?


richywilts

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2011, 09:48:15 pm »
who ya calling a girl thingy???? my neck is in pain so what if peoples premiums are going up if im entitled to compensation then why not go for it do u think showrooms giv a poop charging u high apr rates on cars etc
Richard Wiltshire
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mikecam

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2011, 09:49:13 pm »
w
would i have a good case for a claim i did mention it in showroom but didnt record anything

what actions should i take

As an employer you should know this basic stuff. What you gonna do if one of your employees has an accident/incident, ask here for advice ?

mci services

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2011, 09:57:50 pm »
I take it with that attitude, that if a member of the public trips over your bright yellow hose as it runs over a patch of grass, and you only put cones out on the pathway, that you will be happy with them claiming, especially when your premium shoots up next renewal date, because some halfwit wasn't looking at where they were walking and was eyeing up something in the distance.

You will just say oh well they deserve to claim, he had a grazed knee after all, and that member of the public will be he will ok in his assumption that, well who cares he has three vehicles on the road so who cares ???

bobby p

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2011, 10:07:30 pm »
what was the word in at the showroom workwise ?

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2011, 10:18:14 pm »
its not as if iv walked into an open man hole

I suggest that if you are going to go ahead with a claim that you get everything right, afterall you titled this topic fell down a manhole at showroom when you now say you didn't fall down a manhole but actually slipped on a manhole cover. I'll accept for whatever reasons that the cover wasn't secure enough.

Secondly, there's a reason why insurance premiums are going up each year way above the rate of inflation and it's not to do with profit margins. Right or wrong it's to do with insurance under writers trying to catch up financially with all the extra claims that they've had to pay out on. This is turn means 'some' decide it's fair game to make a claim for whatever reason just to get some payback on their premiums. Guess what happens next? yes the premiums go up again and again and again.
Great news for those of us who buy insurance 'just in case' but whilst never claiming finding the premiums keep going up. Hardly fair is it? So don't be surprised if not everyone is on your side.

bobplum

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2011, 10:21:23 pm »
ou do what you feel is right richy..............end of

alanwilson

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2011, 10:31:50 pm »
richie is only plugging this to talk about his cayman.

hey Richie I have a real Porsche - 2007 GT3RS

by the way, claiming for that is ludicrous, you are bruised but nothing is broken - just point out the problem to the landowner and let them sort it out.

I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

Lee GLS

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2011, 10:38:49 pm »
Yeah, why was there a need to say what car you were looking at, would you gave told us if you were looking at a new ford fiesta, I can car name drop to, I gave somthing far better than your GT3RS Alan, I have an 05 c-max :P.

Richy, take an aspirin, and get over it.

G Griffin

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2011, 10:48:49 pm »
richie is only plugging this to talk about his cayman.

hey Richie I have a real Porsche - 2007 GT3RS

And I`ve got a real manhole cover on my drive  ;).
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richywilts

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2011, 10:52:25 pm »
i wasnt looking to buy it just seen it n thought id have a look at it why would i brag about a 22grand car,

i aint got my storey mixed up its hard to explain the manhole cover isnt fixed down properly and i think when iv walked over it it was scew if so when iv stepped on it its flipped under my weight, my foot has gone downwards into the hole my momentum carried me on n iv caught my foot on the edge n somersaulted.

maybe you would all take a different view on this if it was ya nan
Richard Wiltshire
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Rogue Trader

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2011, 10:56:18 pm »
i agree that the claim culture that we have in this day and age is absolutely ludicrous , dont get involved in it as it is a mugs game , ok you may get  few quid but the bigger picture is that you are contributing to a long term hike in premiums that nobody will be welcoming , c'mon richie you are obviously someone who wants a bit more in life and is prepared to take a risk in employing and growing your business but you slip over and suddenly you wanna claim off someone ::) ::) be true to yerself and forget this nonsense!

wezzy32

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2011, 10:58:14 pm »
you must go and tell them m8 as it may be a lilltle kid next time and may not be as lucky as you.
and i bet those with kids would soon put a claim in if anything happend to them.so just go and tell them and record the accident.
and see if you have got the job ;D
keep on smiling

gordonswindows

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2011, 09:35:36 pm »
Does having your Nan pricing showrooms make you an employer ?

As a once famous person said "calm down dear"

look just check how your webpage terms displays ok?

Gordon
 
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niceandclean

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2011, 11:15:19 pm »

As a once famous person said "calm down dear"

 

Was that David Cameron?
 ;D

H S and Son

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2011, 11:30:41 pm »
i didnt write the terms for my website i had my website built by roodee webdesign

Are you saying you have published your business's terms and conditions on a public domain and dont know what they are as the owner of that business?

mci services

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2011, 11:35:45 pm »
i didnt write the terms for my website i had my website built by roodee webdesign

Are you saying you have published your business's terms and conditions on a public domain and dont know what they are as the owner of that business?
;D yes and he has still not took the hint and filled in the blanks :o or got his web designer to fill in the blanks ;D

richywilts

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2011, 01:45:26 am »
if u can contact the webdesigner for me coz hes had me off with 6-700 quid n wont return me texts!!!

paid him to redesign it last march
Richard Wiltshire
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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2011, 05:51:14 am »
Not the luckiest guy in the world are you Richy ???

Ian101

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2011, 09:13:28 am »
if u can contact the webdesigner for me coz hes had me off with 6-700 quid n wont return me texts!!!

paid him to redesign it last march

was going to ask him to redo mine .... looks like u having problems with him ... seemed a good guy as well ??

richywilts

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2011, 09:59:50 am »
he chats a load of jargon n then when he come up with a poor standard of work which he threw together coz id been waiting 6-7 months at the time n complained saying it looks amatuerish he didnt like it n when we have arranged to meet up to discuss it iv had to let him down twice n now hes saying do it all by email he lives 5 mins away

i wanted a website that looked right for commercial work n he started drawing up a squeegee thing u would expect on a cheapo diy site (no offence) but i wanted mine to look like a larger firm more corporate
Richard Wiltshire
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bobplum

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2011, 11:46:57 am »
I DONT F*****G BELIVE THIS  i was at the same showroom that richy was at and i mentioned to the wife about richy falling in the manhole as i was looking at other cars a guy cutting the grass FELL IN
he need hospital treatment
i didnt realise at first it was the same showroom until mentioned to richy

so in my opinion you should sue them richy as the have a total disregard for HSE

bob

H S and Son

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2011, 06:08:31 pm »
if u can contact the webdesigner for me coz hes had me off with 6-700 quid n wont return me texts!!!

paid him to redesign it last march

And you dont have the FTP details and password?

richywilts

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2011, 06:16:18 pm »
no hes never gave me them coz im clueless with computers
Richard Wiltshire
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DaveG

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2011, 06:20:02 pm »
I DONT F*****G BELIVE THIS  i was at the same showroom that richy was at and i mentioned to the wife about richy falling in the manhole as i was looking at other cars a guy cutting the grass FELL IN
he need hospital treatment
i didnt realise at first it was the same showroom until mentioned to richyso in my opinion you should sue them richy as the have a total disregard for HSE

bob

Technically isnt that Richys fault for not reporting it?? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You can't polish a turd

H S and Son

Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2011, 06:28:05 pm »
no hes never gave me them coz im clueless with computers

In that case speak to your hosting company. Just because you ballsed up doesn't mean you have to keep paying for a poope website. Change the sites password get the FTP details, change them yourself or get someone on here to do it fir you.

richywilts

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Re: fell down a manhole at showroom
« Reply #51 on: May 01, 2011, 12:51:22 am »
iv payed him the money last march 2010!! im gna chase him about it coz im not happy iv put a fair bit of money his way too in the past
Richard Wiltshire
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