geefree

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Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2010, 10:47:52 pm »
How old are u gordon  ;)

dazmond

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Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2010, 10:58:25 pm »
HOW CAN YOU STILL BE LEARNING AFTER 5 YEARS WFP?? ::) :P :P


surely you must know it all by now or have you got alzheimers? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
price higher/work harder!

d s windowcleaning

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Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2010, 11:12:24 pm »
im a expert and im quick ( AS YOU NO GAZZA )
DAZMOND we all learn after 5 years , every new property is a learning procees .
you will learn , where your hose will snag , any bad windows ect .
im doing a new property in the morning and i will learn its something as long as i want to will not stop doing LEARNING .
where theres muck theres money

gordonswindows

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Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2010, 12:01:13 pm »
Gazza I am 48 years old

unfortunately the way of the world is the older you get the wiser you get

when younger i thought i was the bees knees now older and wiser i realise i was right i am i just dont need to shout about it

god it must be so frustrating being young and realising how wrong you usually are

oh the time it took me to type this i made a pound

48yrs and getting better wiser and richer all the time

when i was a lad blah blah blah..........
Don't Give Up
@askforthemoney

Nigel Lee

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Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2010, 05:40:37 pm »
well nigel im enjoying wfp and id say 90% of my round is domestic.to be able to get round on time without too much struggle/the safety aspect/the extra windows im now cleaning for extra money.im ALREADY doing better than i was trad and ive been trad for 16 years!

regards

dazmond

Hi Daz, yes absolutely its quicker.  I don't think many people would argue with that.  As I said in my long drawn out post, you have other things to factor in before you can say your in the black. 

* How much time do you spend buggering around, when as a ladder monkey you could do that extra job. 
* How long do you spend filling up? 
* Have you lost any work due to wfp yet?  You will.  You would of kept it trad. 
* Factor in the extra overheads.
* Are you really making more money?  I tended to be smug with myself about how quick I was, rather than go get the extra work needed to fill the week.  I took it easy as I had completed my work.

I'm sure you know all this already, but factor it all in. 

I was particularly quick trad granted, but I can't honestly say I could make wfp pay with the domestic market.  It wasn't until I got the commercial work that it really was worth the extra money and hassal.  I have been wfp nearly 8 years now, every job is a new challenge.  I am still very partial to trad though, and if all things are equal I will trad domestic work as most customers prefer it.  8 times out of ten the pole is quicker though, once you have the overheads you may as well use it.

geefree

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Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2010, 11:50:41 pm »
If its quicker 8 out of 10 , then the overheads certainly be money well spent....


I cant see how it does not pay doing domestic?

90% of w/c on here will have mainly domestic work .

i wont go into earnings, .. but it sure pays


dazmond

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Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2010, 12:08:41 am »
IVE LOST ONE NIGEL OUT OF 340 CUSTIES!

you even said yourself you d not really made any more money in the first four years! ::) ::)


that might be your story but i bet by this time next year ill be 5grand up AFTER expenses than i was before wfp!

i take my business seriously and im well established.also i implement price rises every april for most of my custies.also im pricing new work higher and getting most of the jobs!

i have a very good domestic round and i have the scope to add very large country properties to it.

as for the faffing around its takes me around 40 mins to fill up at night and after the initial outlay of wfp its virtually a few pound here and there for spares etc.im earning 30-40% more most full days than i was cleaning off ladders!

i let you know as i go on!a lot of my custies are well happy with wfp!the frames and glass have never been cleaner and i clean the extra windows now that were too awkward of ladders.

i think your attitude is all wrong!im finding the more positive i am about wfp and my business the better it gets!roy hardings done very well just on mainly domestic work and im banging a similar round into shape!(i wish!) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


ill get there in the end!



dazmond
price higher/work harder!

gary999

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Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2010, 07:13:03 pm »
into my third year of wfp and i still have the odd
tweak here and there on my existing work to improve

biggest difference between me now and me three years
ago is when i approach a new job i know 99%of the time where i
will and wont have any probs

LWC

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Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2010, 07:27:40 pm »
when younger i thought i was the bees knees now older and wiser i realise i was right i am i just dont need to shout about it

Im 25 and i know im the bees knees ;D

dazmond

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Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2010, 07:42:54 pm »
best ever day today.£250!i would of never been able to earn that on ladders! :D :D :D

im well chuffed!

im really getting into my stride after 3 months wfp.


onwards and upwards


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

roundbuilder

Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2010, 08:05:19 pm »
best ever day today.£250!i would of never been able to earn that on ladders! :D :D :D

im well chuffed!

im really getting into my stride after 3 months wfp.


onwards and upwards





sweeeeeeet. How long was you out for and how many houses was that daz

dazmond

mikecam

Re: How quick have you become now you are an expert wfp cleaner?
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2010, 08:08:59 pm »
if all things are equal I will trad domestic work as most customers prefer it. 

Not my experience at all Nigel. I find they like it more as it cleans the frames out etc..