[paulben]

Don't want to start old debate to salt or not but was wondering if a 5 litre sprayer with water then mix salt to sateration point would stop ground freezing when using wfp

[dazmond]

trad doors and around pathways or.......

sweep away standing water and put ice melt grit down(with permission of customer as some dont want you to)

[Smurf]

If water starts freezing on the ground then it's time to pack wfp in surely?

[Rich Wilts]

No. Make sure you soak any path and driveways , to the point of water 'run-off'.

Then when the old biddies start tottering over, breaking their hips, skulls and wrists phone the local ambulance chasing solicitor company, informing them of the address of the victim. That way you can sell your database of names and addresses in anticipation of a claim being made against you.

Win win. 

[Smurf]

No. Make sure you soak any path and driveways , to the point of water 'run-off'.

Then when the old biddies start tottering over, breaking their hips, skulls and wrists phone the local ambulance chasing solicitor company, informing them of the address of the victim. That way you can sell your database of names and addresses in anticipation of a claim being made against you.

Win win. 

 

[Smurf]

trad works well but make sure you have a shovel 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBlE97PjPqY

[paulben]

just wondered if there was enough salt in water it would act as a de-icer . maybe as a side line dump 1000 litres of water in car park charge kids a fiver to use it as a slide

[Smurf]

Seriously there is always a risk using wfp in winter with water freezing.

It's up to the individual what they decide to do but you also can't go putting stuff down on paths without the consent of the owner. Either way you are buggered what you do as if someone takes a tumble the first person they will try to blame is the window cleaner.

[SB Cleaning]

I will worry when it happens

[paulben]

prob go back to usual  winter working just do bottom of houses

[kempy]

ScrewFix gloves at £5:99 a pair I need go buy a few

[colin bird]

If water starts freezing on the ground then it's time to pack wfp in surely?

+1

[G Griffin]

Don't want to start old debate to salt or not but was wondering if a 5 litre sprayer with water then mix salt to sateration point would stop ground freezing when using wfp

We can't really tell you that.
It depends on the temperature, how much salt you use etc etc.......
Water will freeze when it reaches freezing point. Even if doesn't suit some window cleaners  .

[Mike #1]

If their is snow on the ground it wont matter as no one clears the snow under windows .

[dazmond]

Don't want to start old debate to salt or not but was wondering if a 5 litre sprayer with water then mix salt to sateration point would stop ground freezing when using wfp

do you have a "winter fund" saved up so you can put your feet up and relax if we get 2 or 3 weeks of heavy snow/minus temperatures in the day(lower than -2)?

january 2010 was the last time i took a few weeks off due to extreme weather(very heavy snow)and the run up to xmas the same year(again heavy snow).

since then the weather has been workable during the winter bar the odd heavy rain/gale force winds "washout" day.i can work down to -2 with cold wfp.any lower then its a day off for me.

the last few winters here in the north west have been very mild

[Smurf]

Regarding temp you will soon know when to give up when yer wfp gear will start to freez up whilst out and about in sub zero temps. Even if you have spent time defrosting it beforhand  ground surfaces like concreate paths etc can get considrably colder in sub zero temps than the air temp. I'm afraid to be honest wfp method is prity darn usless below 1c as you will have a constant battle on your hands to keep working as you also have to allow for wind chill factor too. 

To try to keep working you could use warm water either from an emesion heater fitted to the van tank warming the water up overnight or using a hot water heater on demand but still the runoff water will start feezing up on paths which is not ideal either. Not to mention most ppl will think yer bonker when the water starts feezing up on the glass. You can't beat mother nature but you can work along side it as simply stay in bed longer and start work when the temp starts to rise.

Snow we don't normally get a lot of but when we do if the roads are bad especially the side roads where most will want to get too is it worth the risk to drive about let alone try to clean some windows?

Some call it a slush fund for a good reason 

[paulben]

what I worry about is when its been above freezing and been out working  and then it freezes overnight and water not dried off paths . Don't want customers slipping on ice if I can prevent it . Got a " slush fund " but would rather be out working

[Smurf]

If you are that worried maybe get customers to sign some kind of slip wavier.
Try to keep paths, doorways, steps etc dry as much as possible as already mentioned.
Best you don't wfp doors or patio doors if you can trad/ragg them instead
Brush any excess runoff water from foot traffic areas with a stiff broom.
Ask the owners permission if you want to put salt/grit down.

[dazmond]

what I worry about is when its been above freezing and been out working  and then it freezes overnight and water not dried off paths . Don't want customers slipping on ice if I can prevent it . Got a " slush fund " but would rather be out working

just carry a yard brush in your van and sweep away any standing water from pathways when you ve finished cleaning their windows.it takes 2 mins.then move on to your next job.problem solved.

[Joey Eastwood]

One of those situations where trad prevails, or as said above turn every call into a bungalow and charge 50%  just for the bottoms, good tactic in snow when you need to work,  better than a week off