brian chapman

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advice needed
« on: July 02, 2013, 08:31:25 pm »
Hi guys looking for some advice as i am getting back into the swing of things after taking a while out.I have been asked to take a look at a this hard floor to clean and re-seal ,not sure what sort of floor this is what would you advise to use on it ? many thanks ???

Neil Jones

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 08:37:14 pm »
I am by no means an expert and actually have very little experience as of yet but this looks like slate. I'm sure someone will correct me.
I'm going to take a stab at how to clean it as well so please correct me people:
- High pH chem (All for Stone or Aqua Mix etc) rinse, repeat if necessary etc
- Colour enhancing sealer, x3 coats

Although brief am I along the right lines?

Neil Jones

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 08:37:46 pm »
Did you not test when you where there?

brian chapman

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 08:47:24 pm »
HI guys as of yet i have not seen the floor in person only the pic emailed to me could someone remind me how to test the floor ete as its been a while since i last done
one so i am a little rusty cheers

Neil Jones

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 08:54:43 pm »
Scratch test and acid test, and test before using a product. Someone more experienced will be along shortly.

Kev Martin

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 08:54:43 pm »
It is slate with a topical sealer on it.  The grout is filthy as well.

Pre wet the floor
Apply Aqua Mix Heavy Duty Cleaner diluted 3:1 and allow to dwell for 15-30 Minutes
Add a little honing powder and scrub with a soft to medium brush on your rotary scrubber
Then vac up solution
Rinse thoroughly and vac again

Allow floor to dry thoroughly and then seal with Aqua Mix Enrich N Seal.

Make sure you mask off thoroughly before you start

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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Jamie Pearson

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 09:00:53 pm »

Make sure you mask off thoroughly before you start


This cannot be stressed enough in my opinion.

A lot of people will skip this stage as they see it as an unnecessary cost/waste of time.
Had a couple of guys recently complaining about the time and money it takes just to chuck it in the bin.

Price up how much a stainless steel fridge door is or the re-polishing of it.

I had to once for a lift door as one of my guys was "pushed for time" we were lucky and I managed to fix it easily but could have cost us £500.00. It did however cost about 4 hours of my time for a 20 minute fix and a preventative measure that would only take 2 mins and cost a few quid for the area to be protected..

As you wipe off abrasive honing powder slurry it can leave some nice scratching.

A splash skirt for your rotary is also a good investment for a belt & braces approach.

Rob Hall

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 09:02:53 pm »

Make sure you mask off thoroughly before you start


This cannot be stressed enough in my opinion.

A lot of people will skip this stage as they see it as an unnecessary cost/waste of time.
Had a couple of guys recently complaining about the time and money it takes just to chuck it in the bin.

Price up how much a stainless steel fridge door is or the re-polishing of it.

I had to once for a lift door as one of my guys was "pushed for time" we were lucky and I managed to fix it easily but could have cost us £500.00. It did however cost about 4 hours of my time for a 20 minute fix and a preventative measure that would only take 2 mins and cost a few quid for the area to be protected..

As you wipe off abrasive honing powder slurry it can leave some nice scratching.

A splash skirt for your rotary is also a good investment for a belt & braces approach.
Can you help with where to buy a splash skirt please?

Kev Martin

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2013, 09:07:22 pm »
Rob

You probably won't have thought of this but we sell them!

If you need any item for floor restoration or cleaning we sell it and always have it in stock for next day delivery ;D

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd

"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Neil Jones

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2013, 09:23:40 pm »
I did ok then? I was also thinking topical sealer so another bonus point.

Kev Martin

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 09:32:13 pm »
I did ok then? I was also thinking topical sealer so another bonus point.

Neil

Yep your advice was very good except you probablt would not get the three coats of sealer in slate unless you were suggesting another topical ?  But my choice would be enhancing impregnating

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Neil Jones

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 09:36:41 pm »
No product in general just thought three coats. How many coats of Enrich and Seal would you recommend?

Kev Martin

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2013, 09:40:32 pm »
No product in general just thought three coats. How many coats of Enrich and Seal would you recommend?

One possibly 2 Max

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

SteveAllan

Re: advice needed
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2013, 10:10:06 pm »
I had a good chat with Anthony about enrich n seal yesterday Neil ( very helpful :) )
Enrich n Seal appears to be an expensive product but when you look at less product used ( in my case a slate job as well and possibly 1 coat) and less time on the job applying the extra coats a and the waiting time involved then you see it's more cost effective. Some custys don't like it and Insist on a topical no matter what you say to them.

brian chapman

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Re: advice needed
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2013, 04:57:10 pm »
cheers guys for the advice, has made the rusty gogs in me head turn and starting to remember things   :)