JetVac Cleaning

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Ideas please!
« on: March 12, 2014, 05:25:12 pm »
I have been using flat surface cleaners and turbo nozzles for a few years now but have often wondered if there would be a way of making something like a whirl away but with a couple of mini turbo nozzles in. It obviously wouldn't need to spin but with a centre bar with height adjustment all incased ? It would be so nice to get the result of a turbo head without covering everything and yourself in sand. Anyone got any ideas as this is something I would like to try and achieve .
 

Neil Jones

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2014, 05:48:37 pm »
I think Lee made one of these, I'm sure he did.

drive surgeon

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2014, 06:06:57 pm »
He did. I wonder tho if turbo nozzles that close to floor wud take too much sand out.


Matt Gibson

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2014, 07:31:05 pm »
If i remember rightly, while undertaking some research & development, he almost killed his brother when one of the turbo nozzles snapped off and flew out at considerable speed  ;D

JetVac Cleaning

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2014, 07:48:35 pm »
Why does it need to spin? The nozzle does the spinning so two turbo nozzles bolted to a centre bar at just the right height off the ground and apart with a casing around with wheels?

Aqua Power Solutions

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2014, 07:50:52 pm »
David, I know this is a problem that all us trigger happy operatives suffer with  , so i have the solution and wear this !  
This is me giving a quote to a customer ! Ed
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JetVac Cleaning

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2014, 08:01:59 pm »
Would love to get one! Could you imagine the looks you would get from passers by?

Kenny83

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2014, 11:02:12 pm »
I run at around 20 lpm with a mosmatic 21" (the bars on these spin slightly slower so therefore more contact time), I run at around 220 bar and never need to use a turbo apart from when there is deeply rooted grass mounds in the driveway. just take my time over the whole drive so it really eats into the gaps and then wack a 12's nozzle in the lance for rinsing off at around 30 lpm / 140 bar and the job is done, 100 m2 of really mossy block paving in around 1 1/2 to 2 hours, job done, another reason I seem to beat any other quote  ;D

from this....


to this.... 9took me about 1 hour and 15 to clean and rins then a further half hour to sweep and shovel the path and chase dirty water t the nearest drain, I won't tell you what the other 2 guys quoted but I was 200 quid cheaper than one guy and 100 cheaper than the other! and lets just say I earned more than any of my mates earn in a day, (more than some of them in 2 days!)


 
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johnny bravo

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2014, 09:50:23 am »
very impressive.

trevor perry

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2014, 01:01:25 pm »
i would of done that job for £200 if not less
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

chris scott

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2014, 05:46:40 pm »
I would of weed and moss killed , I would of then of Deep cleaned  useing specialist Equipment as not to undermine the substrate and cause the drive to dip in  6 months time (as we see all the time in he industrry...through shoddy cleaning). I would of Resanded it useing a high grade oven dried sand that penetrates deep into  all the gaps and crevices ,occupied by the dead weed roots (this stabilizes the drive long term). I would then apply a residual weed killer to help prevent the germination of weeds.
I would have been £50 cheaper than there most expensive quote. 8)
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Neil Jones

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2014, 05:54:18 pm »
That be me Lee, haha!

However the customer booked me, then rung me after you had cleaned it and said he couldn't wait until this Thursday (which is when I had it booked in for because i've been to busy) so he cancelled. I don't mind customers cancelling but it pees me off when they leave it until the last minute (today) even though you did the work last week.

I'm guessing you were a £100 under me, did you just do the front? As the quote I gave him was for the back as well?

Neil Jones

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2014, 05:58:54 pm »
Thats a point as well, did you resend it? I priced that in with the quote.

JetVac Cleaning

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2014, 06:14:25 pm »
I run at around 20 lpm with a mosmatic 21" (the bars on these spin slightly slower so therefore more contact time), I run at around 220 bar and never need to use a turbo apart from when there is deeply rooted grass mounds in the driveway. just take my time over the whole drive so it really eats into the gaps and then wack a 12's nozzle in the lance for rinsing off at around 30 lpm / 140 bar and the job is done, 100 m2 of really mossy block paving in around 1 1/2 to 2 hours, job done, another reason I seem to beat any other quote  ;D

from this....


to this.... 9took me about 1 hour and 15 to clean and rins then a further half hour to sweep and shovel the path and chase dirty water t the nearest drain, I won't tell you what the other 2 guys quoted but I was 200 quid cheaper than one guy and 100 cheaper than the other! and lets just say I earned more than any of my mates earn in a day, (more than some of them in 2 days!)


 
do u mind me asking what setup your running to produce these results with a fsc

Simon@Pristine Pathways

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2014, 06:19:12 pm »
I would of weed and moss killed , I would of then of Deep cleaned  useing specialist Equipment as not to undermine the substrate and cause the drive to dip in  6 months time (as we see all the time in he industrry...through shoddy cleaning). I would of Resanded it useing a high grade oven dried sand that penetrates deep into  all the gaps and crevices ,occupied by the dead weed roots (this stabilizes the drive long term). I would then apply a residual weed killer to help prevent the germination of weeds.
I would have been £50 cheaper than there most expensive quote. 8)

You over complicate the easyist of jobs! Chris we are in your territory next week cleaning a block paving drive if you want to come over for a leason!

I would charge 400 and resand.

chris scott

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2014, 06:25:53 pm »
I would of weed and moss killed , I would of then of Deep cleaned  useing specialist Equipment as not to undermine the substrate and cause the drive to dip in  6 months time (as we see all the time in he industrry...through shoddy cleaning). I would of Resanded it useing a high grade oven dried sand that penetrates deep into  all the gaps and crevices ,occupied by the dead weed roots (this stabilizes the drive long term). I would then apply a residual weed killer to help prevent the germination of weeds.
I would have been £50 cheaper than there most expensive quote. 8)

You over complicate the easyist of jobs! Chris we are in your territory next week cleaning a block paving drive if you want to come over for a leason!

I would charge 400 and resand.
I am in your  territory next year onwards...I have just bought www.wirraldrivewaycleaning .com
www.cleaning-service.uk.com
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JetVac Cleaning

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2014, 06:29:07 pm »
I run at around 20 lpm with a mosmatic 21" (the bars on these spin slightly slower so therefore more contact time), I run at around 220 bar and never need to use a turbo apart from when there is deeply rooted grass mounds in the driveway. just take my time over the whole drive so it really eats into the gaps and then wack a 12's nozzle in the lance for rinsing off at around 30 lpm / 140 bar and the job is done, 100 m2 of really mossy block paving in around 1 1/2 to 2 hours, job done, another reason I seem to beat any other quote  ;D

from this....


to this.... 9took me about 1 hour and 15 to clean and rins then a further half hour to sweep and shovel the path and chase dirty water t the nearest drain, I won't tell you what the other 2 guys quoted but I was 200 quid cheaper than one guy and 100 cheaper than the other! and lets just say I earned more than any of my mates earn in a day, (more than some of them in 2 days!)


 
what system are you running to produce these results if u don't mind me asking

Kenny83

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2014, 06:34:42 pm »
Haha Neil, I just got a call with the square meterage and address of the property, looked on google street view and priced it from there, I even priced it about £30 more as it was abit out my way (travel time etc). Initially he wanted just the front doing but when I got there to do the job he asked abut the back, I just said just an extra £40 while I'm already here, only took about 30mins, he never wanted me to resand it mate.

David, I run an interpump 2030 but only have 2 x 03 nozzles in the surface cleaner so doing around 20lpm, also I get a few extra bar out by tweaking the unloader (which I thought was a bit naughty at first) but the engine can more than cope with the extra pressure, even though the pump is only a 200 bar pump it still copes well with it, ive been running this setup for around 18 months now with out problem. I just came to the conclusion that the larger pumps are built like tanks (everything is oversized and built for the job) and are design to cope with a bit extra pressure.
As stated I also put it down to the mosmatic playing a bit part in it, whirlaways are better on flags as you can walk quicker with no ringing... mosmatics seem to leave more rings on flags but they are superb on mossy block paving, the pictures speak for themselves

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Simon@Pristine Pathways

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Re: Ideas please!
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2014, 06:44:55 pm »
I would of weed and moss killed , I would of then of Deep cleaned  useing specialist Equipment as not to undermine the substrate and cause the drive to dip in  6 months time (as we see all the time in he industrry...through shoddy cleaning). I would of Resanded it useing a high grade oven dried sand that penetrates deep into  all the gaps and crevices ,occupied by the dead weed roots (this stabilizes the drive long term). I would then apply a residual weed killer to help prevent the germination of weeds.
I would have been £50 cheaper than there most expensive quote. 8)

You over complicate the easyist of jobs! Chris we are in your territory next week cleaning a block paving drive if you want to come over for a leason!

I would charge 400 and resand.
I am in your  territory next year onwards...I have just bought www.wirraldrivewaycleaning .com

Whats wrong with this year? When customers tell me they are getting 3 quotes I like point them in the direction of other companies offering a quality service. It keeps the industry standard high and my prices dont look out of place.
I will welcome you with open arms you will help grow my business.  

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