[Lee Burbidge]

I wanted to know how sole traders felt about the National window cleaning companies and if them snapping up 'clone town' stores have effected you in anyway.
Business is business, I guess, but have your say here..... I will be seeking the Nationals attention for interview and I could put any questions you have to them.

Tell me what your experience has been, good or bad. Do you sub to a National for example? Do they keep you in business or put you out of business??

[Frankybadboy]

going to be a bit one sided this,as about everyone on here is going to moan that they lost work to these nationals.


when you say your going to talk to the nationals,who do you mean,?because we know that you got to go a longway back up the ladder so to speak to get to the top.
national conctator
subby
subby
subby
subby
subby
window cleaner get what iam saying.

[William McCafferty]

I do not mind the nationals, I don't really want shops so I won't be affected by them going national, I do though do some work for a national company, but I quote the job up at what I want and if they agree then we are both winners if they don't like my prices then they go elsewere.

[Window Washers]

I think they are strangling the market which is leading to poorer and poorer work being done and safety being breached, some of the work window cleaners are doing  would be below min wage ask these people how they feel about there compaines being labeled with this when/if it hits the papers because if it keeps happening something will give no doubt about it, and it is there brand that will be affected and labeled

They always moan about china and there poor wages.
too many people have there fingers in the same pie cut out the middle middle men let the smaller companies have a chance to compete.

That being said I am not interested in shop work either


 

[Erithwc]

I have been told by a customer that worked for Mi**e that they do some contacts at a loss

Paul

[Window Washers]

I have been told by a customer that worked for Mi**e that they do some contacts at a loss

Paul

thats just business Erith, I do the same on a much smaller scale to stop others being able to compete, whats happening in other places is not this though it is the bottom guy being the last inline with his cap in hand

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

person you want to speak to
is John Nolan from Approved Window Cleaners
in Bristol .
puts plenty of work my way , very likeable fellow
ive no qualms bout taking anyones work
it feeds my kids ,and this work can and will be done
in all weathers period 

[SunShineCleaning]

The people losing out to the nationals is the customer.
I can't be the only one who has seen them turn up, get out the van, look at the glass and drive off.
One set I've seen just sat in the van for the duration of their visit.

Because it's a national that is at the top of the tree they can't really effectivley  complain to anyone.

[Window Washers]

person you want to speak to
is John Nolan from Approved Window Cleaners
in Bristol .
puts plenty of work my way , very likeable fellow
ive no qualms bout taking anyones work
it feeds my kids ,and this work can and will be done
in all weathers period 

The Guy at Approved is totally honest and open, which I like.

[Small but perfectley formed]

At the prices you get I would like to do them while I was a sleep

[Frankybadboy]

person you want to speak to
is John Nolan from Approved Window Cleaners
in Bristol .
puts plenty of work my way , very likeable fellow
ive no qualms bout taking anyones work
it feeds my kids ,and this work can and will be done
in all weathers period  

have you been invited to big fat john wedding gav?,see you there if you are

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

no m8 but the big fat drinky at xmas 

[Frankybadboy]

no m8 but the big fat drinky at xmas 

and i thought tat everyone been invited,seem like something wrong that gav,get on the case man

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

invited yes m8 but to busy
told him ,to get her sign a pre nup quick
or it wont be johnny two boats any longer lol

[Smudgeoff Cleaning Services]

person you want to speak to
is John Nolan from Approved Window Cleaners
in Bristol .
puts plenty of work my way , very likeable fellow
ive no qualms bout taking anyones work
it feeds my kids ,and this work can and will be done
in all weathers period 

Great bloke.. And im earning good money.....min wage....I disagree

[Llaaww]

I have been told by a customer that worked for Mi**e that they do some contacts at a loss

Paul

The trouble is that they don't really do it at a loss. they simply do not do the work as promised, but contimue to put the bill in, and collect the money.

I am sharking one that I lost a while back. The manager is on the case and we are looking very closely at the service and billing records. When it comes I will take great pleasure in kicking them hard in the sack. The shop has been cleaned twice since january.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I wanted to know how sole traders felt about the National window cleaning companies and if them snapping up 'clone town' stores have effected you in anyway.
Business is business, I guess, but have your say here..... I will be seeking the Nationals attention for interview and I could put any questions you have to them.

Tell me what your experience has been, good or bad. Do you sub to a National for example? Do they keep you in business or put you out of business??

I can't think why on earth anyone from any national company would even consider your request? 

[CLEANCARE WC]

I have been told by a customer that worked for Mi**e that they do some contacts at a loss

Paul

The trouble is that they don't really do it at a loss. they simply do not do the work as promised, but contimue to put the bill in, and collect the money.

I am sharking one that I lost a while back. The manager is on the case and we are looking very closely at the service and billing records. When it comes I will take great pleasure in kicking them hard in the sack. The shop has been cleaned twice since january.

you must of loved that Boots llaaw 

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

I have been told by a customer that worked for Mi**e that they do some contacts at a loss

Paul

The trouble is that they don't really do it at a loss. they simply do not do the work as promised, but contimue to put the bill in, and collect the money.

I am sharking one that I lost a while back. The manager is on the case and we are looking very closely at the service and billing records. When it comes I will take great pleasure in kicking them hard in the sack. The shop has been cleaned twice since january.

are you for real or what 1 and i mean 1 boots store!!!!
how did dave morris feel losing 300

[mikey]

they can do what they like   iam residential

[landy2]

Do the nationals clean window or do they just send the invoces in as the ones i see windows are always dirty , if the managers of these shops had there heart in the job would know and these big nationals would be no longer as they would not make it pay as they would actualy have to pay wages .

[Llaaww]

I have been told by a customer that worked for Mi**e that they do some contacts at a loss

Paul

The trouble is that they don't really do it at a loss. they simply do not do the work as promised, but contimue to put the bill in, and collect the money.

I am sharking one that I lost a while back. The manager is on the case and we are looking very closely at the service and billing records. When it comes I will take great pleasure in kicking them hard in the sack. The shop has been cleaned twice since january.

are you for real or what 1 and i mean 1 boots store!!!!
how did dave morris feel losing 300

I know that Dave shrugged it off and kept going, and he did lose a lot compared to my one. For me it is more about being kicked in the sack after providing years of good quality service.

After 25 years I have seen nationals come and go, and have often managed to sneak in the back door and bag some good sites, only to see them snatched away by a feckless "national" who can't be bothered to turn up and do the work.

It takes no skin off my nose to wait until these people get caught stealing, I have to go there anyway. So I will wait patiently until they hang themselves. If I get my way they will lose the lot.

Still missed off to lose a good job.

 

[pitcher]

Im a subby for a few national

i cover 4 countys

run 4 vans
employ 5 men and 1 subby
fully train
chas approved and safecontractor

1 van covers just under 1000 resy customers with help from all vans every 6weeks
 
i dont no how many retail stores shops banks etc we cover in a month(not sad anoth to count them)

none of my lads are on min wage

so why have you got to put this type of work down   if you dont like it  dont do it

i like it so i do it

this does not mean i risk   h&s  if anything we do more

so please dont paint us with the same brush

i know when it raining on wednesday we will be working

will you

[Erithwc]

The thing is 99% of people on here will do their shopping in a supermarket each week not the local corner shop 

You would get better meat and service from a local bucher yet we still go to the supermarket.

Paul

[pitcher]

so what alot off you are saying  if you do this type of work your a crap window clean

[Frankybadboy]

I have been told by a customer that worked for Mi**e that they do some contacts at a loss

Paul

The trouble is that they don't really do it at a loss. they simply do not do the work as promised, but contimue to put the bill in, and collect the money.

I am sharking one that I lost a while back. The manager is on the case and we are looking very closely at the service and billing records. When it comes I will take great pleasure in kicking them hard in the sack. The shop has been cleaned twice since january.

are you for real or what 1 and i mean 1 boots store!!!!
how did dave morris feel losing 300

I know that Dave shrugged it off and kept going, and he did lose a lot compared to my one. For me it is more about being kicked in the sack after providing years of good quality service.

After 25 years I have seen nationals come and go, and have often managed to sneak in the back door and bag some good sites, only to see them snatched away by a feckless "national" who can't be bothered to turn up and do the work.

It takes no skin off my nose to wait until these people get caught stealing, I have to go there anyway. So I will wait patiently until they hang themselves. If I get my way they will lose the lot.

Still missed off to lose a good job.

 

mate you really need to get a life 

[SunShineCleaning]

Im a subby for a few national

i cover 4 countys

run 4 vans
employ 5 men and 1 subby
fully train
chas approved and safecontractor

1 van covers just under 1000 resy customers with help from all vans every 6weeks
 
i dont no how many retail stores shops banks etc we cover in a month(not sad anoth to count them)

none of my lads are on min wage

so why have you got to put this type of work down   if you dont like it  dont do it

i like it so i do it

this does not mean i risk   h&s  if anything we do more

so please dont paint us with the same brush

i know when it raining on wednesday we will be working

will you

I'm sure you are a great boss, however, my experience is that the more that take a cut the more likely the shop gets a bad job done.

What sort of checks do you do on your staff and what checks do the nationals do on you?

[Llaaww]

I have been told by a customer that worked for Mi**e that they do some contacts at a loss

Paul

The trouble is that they don't really do it at a loss. they simply do not do the work as promised, but contimue to put the bill in, and collect the money.

I am sharking one that I lost a while back. The manager is on the case and we are looking very closely at the service and billing records. When it comes I will take great pleasure in kicking them hard in the sack. The shop has been cleaned twice since january.

are you for real or what 1 and i mean 1 boots store!!!!
how did dave morris feel losing 300

I know that Dave shrugged it off and kept going, and he did lose a lot compared to my one. For me it is more about being kicked in the sack after providing years of good quality service.

After 25 years I have seen nationals come and go, and have often managed to sneak in the back door and bag some good sites, only to see them snatched away by a feckless "national" who can't be bothered to turn up and do the work.

It takes no skin off my nose to wait until these people get caught stealing, I have to go there anyway. So I will wait patiently until they hang themselves. If I get my way they will lose the lot.

Still missed off to lose a good job.

 

mate you really need to get a life 

[G Griffin]

The people losing out to the nationals is the customer.
I can't be the only one who has seen them turn up, get out the van, look at the glass and drive off.
One set I've seen just sat in the van for the duration of their visit.

Because it's a national that is at the top of the tree they can't really effectivley  complain to anyone.

I don't think their windows are that much of a priority to them.

[SunShineCleaning]

The people losing out to the nationals is the customer.
I can't be the only one who has seen them turn up, get out the van, look at the glass and drive off.
One set I've seen just sat in the van for the duration of their visit.

Because it's a national that is at the top of the tree they can't really effectivley  complain to anyone.

I don't think their windows are that much of a priority to them.

Oh ok. I guess that makes it ok then...

[G Griffin]

The people losing out to the nationals is the customer.
I can't be the only one who has seen them turn up, get out the van, look at the glass and drive off.
One set I've seen just sat in the van for the duration of their visit.

Because it's a national that is at the top of the tree they can't really effectivley  complain to anyone.

I don't think their windows are that much of a priority to them.

Oh ok. I guess that makes it ok then...

It doesn't really affect me.
And with the shops, yes; which is what really matters; they are the ones paying.

[pitcher]

we take it turn to do the different rounds
so no one get lazy on a store
if jobs not done right the national are soon on my back
so do job right easy life
so im not a crap window cleaner or are my lads
this is the way life is going like it or not
why stress yourself over what business like us do
also on the h&s side when training 2 off my lads work was put to side to use as example
for other training corses
as for payment same week every month   easy life

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

work comes an goes most store shop work
i do of a monday morning
an if iv gota walk past it i may aswell
clean it 

[mikey]

well i did say i did not care but iam asking  how do you get into subbing work to me  do i have to sign up to be on there payroll  or do i get cash as a sole trader  but i dont do shops i do houses  so i would be looking at commercial work would a percentage go to them i take the rest who does the risk assesments method statements etc