[bobplum]

almost make you feel guilty or maybe inadequate.
It almost feels like a crime if after 3 years of window cleaning if you haven't got three vans on the road,employ people,buy the latest poles that come out,dont have a portfolio of commercial and domestic customers oh and you aren't a member of some governing body!!

Now maybe its an age thing,im 50 and i am looking for a part timer,two days a week but in the main i feel quite comfortable about what i do i have over 340 customers mostly monthly,i pay my bills,i earn a decent wage but yet for some reason i feel i am doing something wrong or lagging behind other people,especially on this forum.
I appreciate we are all different and work at different speeds and ways and what's good for one is not always good for another.

I am now going to take my tablets for my paranoid brain and tomorrow will be a beautiful bright sunny day
and i look forward to all your responses

PS
The doctors are letting me go home tomorrow

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

almost make you feel guilty or maybe inadequate.
It almost feels like a crime if after 3 years of window cleaning if you haven't got three vans on the road,employ people,buy the latest poles that come out,dont have a portfolio of commercial and domestic customers oh and you aren't a member of some governing body!!

Now maybe its an age thing,im 50 and i am looking for a part timer,two days a week but in the main i feel quite comfortable about what i do i have over 340 customers mostly monthly,i pay my bills,i earn a decent wage but yet for some reason i feel i am doing something wrong or lagging behind other people,especially on this forum.
I appreciate we are all different and work at different speeds and ways and what's good for one is not always good for another.

I am now going to take my tablets for my paranoid brain and tomorrow will be a beautiful bright sunny day
and i look forward to all your responses

PS
The doctors are letting me go home tomorrow

You're probably doing better than 95% of others here!

[Dave Willis]

You should be "taking your business to the next level"
You should be "setting your goals"
You should be "hitting your targets"
You should be "buying a unit"
You should have "staff"
Only use a 4040 RO
You should be "a member of the fed"
You need to "attend breakfast meetings"
You should be watching "motivational speeches"
You nead an "NVQ"
You must "franchise"
You must "employ canvassers"
You must drop 1,000,000 leaflets
You should be "networking"
Don't forget marketing 


Or you could just clean windows and earn a good living.  

[David lyddon]

Or spend more time on the glass,less time on this forum

[Steve_c]

almost make you feel guilty or maybe inadequate.
It almost feels like a crime if after 3 years of window cleaning if you haven't got three vans on the road,employ people,buy the latest poles that come out,dont have a portfolio of commercial and domestic customers oh and you aren't a member of some governing body!!

Now maybe its an age thing,im 50 and i am looking for a part timer,two days a week but in the main i feel quite comfortable about what i do i have over 340 customers mostly monthly,i pay my bills,i earn a decent wage but yet for some reason i feel i am doing something wrong or lagging behind other people,especially on this forum.
I appreciate we are all different and work at different speeds and ways and what's good for one is not always good for another.

I am now going to take my tablets for my paranoid brain and tomorrow will be a beautiful bright sunny day
and i look forward to all your responses

PS
The doctors are letting me go home tomorrow

If your happy and you pay your way so what. Its up to you how far you  want to go with your Business

[bobplum]

Or spend more time on the glass,less time on this forum

it becomes addictive

[bobplum]

You should be "taking your business to the next level"
You should be "setting your goals"
You should be "hitting your targets"
You should be "buying a unit"
You should have "staff"
Only use a 4040 RO
You should be "a member of the fed"
You need to "attend breakfast meetings"
You should be watching "motivational speeches"
You nead an "NVQ"
You must "franchise"
You must "employ canvassers"
You must drop 1,000,000 leaflets
You should be "networking"
Don't forget marketing 


Or you could just clean windows and earn a good living.  

we could all be suffering information overload

[Perfect Windows]

.... in the main i feel quite comfortable about what i do ...

In which case, I'd suggest that you have what you want from your business.

Vin

[davids3511]

You should be "taking your business to the next level"
You should be "setting your goals"
You should be "hitting your targets"
You should be "buying a unit"
You should have "staff"
Only use a 4040 RO
You should be "a member of the fed"
You need to "attend breakfast meetings"
You should be watching "motivational speeches"
You nead an "NVQ"
You must "franchise"
You must "employ canvassers"
You must drop 1,000,000 leaflets
You should be "networking"
Don't forget marketing 


Or you could just clean windows and earn a good living.  

you forgot "moving forward"

[Ian101]

If I was a fiver behind u Bob I be happy

[gary999]

why should you care what others are thinking,i try to work less than 25 hours
a week i use barrels and backpacks and work from my passat estate and in general
feel content

[rosskesava]

why should you care what others are thinking,i try to work less than 25 hours
a week i use barrels and backpacks and work from my passat estate and in general
feel content

That's pretty much the same for me except I have a trolley and a transit.

If you're happy as you are, why change it?

[Ian101]

I know you like your soaps so will explain it like this;

some windies are the Devs of this world with several corner shops (Coronation Street)

some windies are like the Ian Beales of this world with his 1 fruit and veg barrow (Eastenders)

however with a missus like hes got I think Dev has got it sorted

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sunita+coronation+street&num=10&hl=en&biw=1360&bih=576&tbm=isch&tbnid=j38y5GHkgH1dAM:&imgrefurl=http://thestreetfever.com/coronation-street/category/sunita-alahan/&docid=oBusBPNzDWLzDM&imgurl=http://thestreetfever.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Shobna-high-heels1.jpg&w=447&h=303&ei=D3NoULLOFYeY1AWB2oDwCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=226&vpy=273&dur=4748&hovh=185&hovw=273&tx=155&ty=116&sig=115147798580602380154&page=1&tbnh=123&tbnw=167&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0,i:99

[gary999]

I know you like your soaps so will explain it like this;

some windies are the Devs of this world with several corner shops (Coronation Street)

some windies are like the Ian Beales of this world with his 1 fruit and veg barrow (Eastenders)

however with a missus like hes got I think Dev has got it sorted

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=sunita+coronation+street&num=10&hl=en&biw=1360&bih=576&tbm=isch&tbnid=j38y5GHkgH1dAM:&imgrefurl=http://thestreetfever.com/coronation-street/category/sunita-alahan/&docid=oBusBPNzDWLzDM&imgurl=http://thestreetfever.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Shobna-high-heels1.jpg&w=447&h=303&ei=D3NoULLOFYeY1AWB2oDwCQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=226&vpy=273&dur=4748&hovh=185&hovw=273&tx=155&ty=116&sig=115147798580602380154&page=1&tbnh=123&tbnw=167&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0,i:99

looks like too much hardwork to me...i will stick with my blow up doll and internet porn

[Window Washers]

Do what makes you and your family happy,
people on here make there own choices everyone wants something different that's why there so many differences.

So each to there own,
sadly there are more an more trolls on here spoiling it for people.
If someone wants to do more and grow big so what, if someone wants to stay small so what

Just be happy in what you choose

[Dave Willis]

Spot on.

[a900]

Windows is a great job if you want to focus your life I other things. If you got nothing better to do make a million in it. That's my view. Haha

[Johnny B]

I have been in the game 15 years, am 100% trad and always will be.

I am 50 years of age, work at my own (snail's) pace and no doubt earn a fraction of the wage some claim to earn on here. I am still building my run up (2nd time around) but am very happy the way it is progressing.

I love my work and will be windying until I drop dead, or Armageddon comes (which ever is the sooner).

I don't compete with anyone, and I am genuinely happy if others are earning more than I am/have better equipment/have a shiny new signwritten fleet of vans.

If you are as content as I am, then I ask what more would you want from your business?

John

[Johnny B]

I have been in the game 15 years, am 100% trad and always will be.

I am 50 years of age, work at my own (snail's) pace and no doubt earn a fraction of the wage some claim to earn on here. I am still building my run up (2nd time around) but am very happy the way it is progressing.

I love my work and will be windying until I drop dead, or Armageddon comes (which ever is the sooner).

I don't compete with anyone, and I am genuinely happy if others are earning more than I am/have better equipment/have a shiny new signwritten fleet of vans.

If you are as content as I am, then I ask why would you want more from your business?

John

[A & J Owen Window Cleaning]

A bigger business does not necessarily mean a more profitable business.
My uncle started out with a butchers stall on a market. It was making money so he decided to expand buying more stalls and shops. It was nothing but stress and he ended up selling the lot. 20 years down the line he still says expanding was the worst mistake he made because he had to pay his staff before he paid himself and with staff there are always 'issues'.
His advice to us - keep it simple. For those of you who employ staff fair play to you but personally can't think of anything worse.
Window cleaning is an easy way of making a decent living and having a life - works for me 

[H2GoKent]

almost make you feel guilty or maybe inadequate.
It almost feels like a crime if after 3 years of window cleaning if you haven't got three vans on the road,employ people,buy the latest poles that come out,dont have a portfolio of commercial and domestic customers oh and you aren't a member of some governing body!!

Now maybe its an age thing,im 50 and i am looking for a part timer,two days a week but in the main i feel quite comfortable about what i do i have over 340 customers mostly monthly,i pay my bills,i earn a decent wage but yet for some reason i feel i am doing something wrong or lagging behind other people,especially on this forum.
I appreciate we are all different and work at different speeds and ways and what's good for one is not always good for another.

I am now going to take my tablets for my paranoid brain and tomorrow will be a beautiful bright sunny day
and i look forward to all your responses

PS
The doctors are letting me go home tomorrow

You sound a like success to me.
 

[bobplum]

almost make you feel guilty or maybe inadequate.
It almost feels like a crime if after 3 years of window cleaning if you haven't got three vans on the road,employ people,buy the latest poles that come out,dont have a portfolio of commercial and domestic customers oh and you aren't a member of some governing body!!

Now maybe its an age thing,im 50 and i am looking for a part timer,two days a week but in the main i feel quite comfortable about what i do i have over 340 customers mostly monthly,i pay my bills,i earn a decent wage but yet for some reason i feel i am doing something wrong or lagging behind other people,especially on this forum.
I appreciate we are all different and work at different speeds and ways and what's good for one is not always good for another.

I am now going to take my tablets for my paranoid brain and tomorrow will be a beautiful bright sunny day
and i look forward to all your responses

PS
The doctors are letting me go home tomorrow

You sound a like success to me.
 

thank you

[Granny]

I love my work and will be windying until I drop dead, or Armageddon comes (which ever is the sooner).


John

Hi John you been listening to those JW's ?
It's nearer than you think

[bobplum]

Just interested what kind of business people are running
How many vans you all got. How many staff you have.
Are you happy with your company and where you think you will be in ten years time.
I am at the moment just me in one van. Happy with what I have and will look into expanding next spring again. Due to problems I sold a lot of work as was not working out how I wanted my company to be.



i REST MY CASE(no offence to the chap who posted this thread )

[Johnny B]

I love my work and will be windying until I drop dead, or Armageddon comes (which ever is the sooner).


John

Hi John you been listening to those JW's ?
It's nearer than you think

I've been sussed!  

John  

[CLEANCARE WC]

A bigger business does not necessarily mean a more profitable business.
My uncle started out with a butchers stall on a market. It was making money so he decided to expand buying more stalls and shops. It was nothing but stress and he ended up selling the lot. 20 years down the line he still says expanding was the worst mistake he made because he had to pay his staff before he paid himself and with staff there are always 'issues'.
His advice to us - keep it simple. For those of you who employ staff fair play to you but personally can't think of anything worse.
Window cleaning is an easy way of making a decent living and having a life - works for me 

a really good little independant brewary/pub opened up in my town about 2 yrs ago done great from the word go, so what does the owner do?.....

opens up another one in neighbouring town pouring all the money into it. it doesnt take off and now both pubs are closed, and he has done all his savings.

im not quite sure what the moral is but there is definately one there.

[Window Washers]

A bigger business does not necessarily mean a more profitable business.
My uncle started out with a butchers stall on a market. It was making money so he decided to expand buying more stalls and shops. It was nothing but stress and he ended up selling the lot. 20 years down the line he still says expanding was the worst mistake he made because he had to pay his staff before he paid himself and with staff there are always 'issues'.
His advice to us - keep it simple. For those of you who employ staff fair play to you but personally can't think of anything worse.
Window cleaning is an easy way of making a decent living and having a life - works for me  

a really good little independant brewary/pub opened up in my town about 2 yrs ago done great from the word go, so what does the owner do?.....

opens up another one in neighbouring town pouring all the money into it. it doesnt take off and now both pubs are closed, and he has done all his savings.

im not quite sure what the moral is but there is definately one there.

the moral is he tried and failed but at least he tried.

the saying goes, 'It is better to have tried and failed than to never have tried at all'

another I like is: if you keep doing what you have always done, you will always get what you have always gotten

[rosskesava]

So how can the pub owner be better for trying and failing rather than not trying at all?

He made a bad business decision and by plowing his saving into it, made an even worse decision.

Knowing when to quit is as important as knowing when and how to try.

Running a business with employees isn't for everyone but some get caught up in the need to expand based on what they think they want 'from the business' and destroy a perfectly good one man, or one woman, business.

[G Griffin]

A bigger business does not necessarily mean a more profitable business.
My uncle started out with a butchers stall on a market. It was making money so he decided to expand buying more stalls and shops. It was nothing but stress and he ended up selling the lot. 20 years down the line he still says expanding was the worst mistake he made because he had to pay his staff before he paid himself and with staff there are always 'issues'.
His advice to us - keep it simple. For those of you who employ staff fair play to you but personally can't think of anything worse.
Window cleaning is an easy way of making a decent living and having a life - works for me  

a really good little independant brewary/pub opened up in my town about 2 yrs ago done great from the word go, so what does the owner do?.....

opens up another one in neighbouring town pouring all the money into it. it doesnt take off and now both pubs are closed, and he has done all his savings.

im not quite sure what the moral is but there is definately one there.

The moral is, you're a big pisshead and kept the one in your town going  .

[Window Washers]

So how can the pub owner be better for trying and failing rather than not trying at all?

He made a bad business decision and by plowing his saving into it, made an even worse decision.

Knowing when to quit is as important as knowing when and how to try.

Running a business with employees isn't for everyone but some get caught up in the need to expand based on what they think they want 'from the business' and destroy a perfectly good one man, or one woman, business.

the guy clearly wasn't happy with a one man business, to be honest I don't blame him, had he of not tried he would have spent his life wondering "what if" he can always start again. You don't happen to be a one man band do you that is happy with your life ? Just asking as it would explain your comments mate

[Johnny B]

Am I stating a rhetorical here? The pub guy could have succeeded if he had only put into the second pub what he could afford to lose without jeopardising the first.

Why gamble and fail, when you can work hard and succeed?

John

[CLEANCARE WC]

A bigger business does not necessarily mean a more profitable business.
My uncle started out with a butchers stall on a market. It was making money so he decided to expand buying more stalls and shops. It was nothing but stress and he ended up selling the lot. 20 years down the line he still says expanding was the worst mistake he made because he had to pay his staff before he paid himself and with staff there are always 'issues'.
His advice to us - keep it simple. For those of you who employ staff fair play to you but personally can't think of anything worse.
Window cleaning is an easy way of making a decent living and having a life - works for me  

a really good little independant brewary/pub opened up in my town about 2 yrs ago done great from the word go, so what does the owner do?.....

opens up another one in neighbouring town pouring all the money into it. it doesnt take off and now both pubs are closed, and he has done all his savings.

im not quite sure what the moral is but there is definately one there.

the moral is he tried and failed but at least he tried.

the saying goes, 'It is better to have tried and failed than to never have tried at all'

another I like is: if you keep doing what you have always done, you will always get what you have always gotten

Or maybe it was a case of running before you can walk? he was doing ok where he was but then stretched himself to the limit and lost everything whats clever about that?

surely in this case it would of been better not to have tried, or at least waited.

there is another saying...he who builds a house before setting out does he not calculate the cost?....

[Window Washers]

A bigger business does not necessarily mean a more profitable business.
My uncle started out with a butchers stall on a market. It was making money so he decided to expand buying more stalls and shops. It was nothing but stress and he ended up selling the lot. 20 years down the line he still says expanding was the worst mistake he made because he had to pay his staff before he paid himself and with staff there are always 'issues'.
His advice to us - keep it simple. For those of you who employ staff fair play to you but personally can't think of anything worse.
Window cleaning is an easy way of making a decent living and having a life - works for me  

a really good little independant brewary/pub opened up in my town about 2 yrs ago done great from the word go, so what does the owner do?.....

opens up another one in neighbouring town pouring all the money into it. it doesnt take off and now both pubs are closed, and he has done all his savings.

im not quite sure what the moral is but there is definately one there.

the moral is he tried and failed but at least he tried.

the saying goes, 'It is better to have tried and failed than to never have tried at all'

another I like is: if you keep doing what you have always done, you will always get what you have always gotten

Or maybe it was a case of running before you can walk? he was doing ok where he was but then stretched himself to the limit and lost everything whats clever about that?

surely in this case it would of been better not to have tried, or at least waited.

there is another saying...he who builds a house before setting out does he not calculate the cost?....

hindsight is a wonderful thing

[4S Cleaning]

Bob plum spot on with your op