A Foster

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How much water is used in WFP
« on: January 12, 2012, 09:18:03 pm »
Hi everyone.

I am looking at combining WFP into my window round and would like to know how much water is required to clean an average 3 bed semi.

I'm weighing up whether to have van mounted or trolley system, but I'm not sure how long a 25L barrell of water would last. I see that the pumps work up to 5L per minute but do you actually use that much?

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Panorama

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 09:19:37 pm »
Van mount

VSP Home Care

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 09:23:48 pm »
If you have the choice a van system is the way to go mate, you can always run a barrel round on a trolley if you need.

25ltr will not last that long, on a maintenance clean possibly, but on a first clean you'll be using a lot of water, probably the whole barrel if it's munting.

Window Washers

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 09:26:56 pm »
if you want an easy life I would without doubt get a van mount.

Trolley is for a part time round and for odd jobs IMO you cannot have a full time business using a part time tool
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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2012, 09:27:40 pm »
Van mount

That's not information, That's an opinion .............. a good one though.  ;)

If you use a flow controller, you would probably use about 1-1.5 lpm, I find this is plenty.  
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DMC Window Cleaners Ltd

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2012, 09:28:01 pm »
van mounted alday long you will start to get bigger contracts and taller building and storing 10-20 water barrels in van is a lot more room then a 250-650 ltr tank.

and a baffled tank is a lot safer then 10 or so barrels rolling around van

RO-Sheen

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 09:29:07 pm »
Definately a van mount. If you buy a trolley system you will find you will have grown out of it by the summer.
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idealrob

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 09:33:16 pm »
Once they are clean, you use little, did my mothers the other day with a backpack, only had 6 litres left to do the job, its a large 5 bedroom, 3 sitting room house, did the lot and still had some water left, and they had not been done for about 6 weeks

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Halfadaylee

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2012, 09:37:32 pm »
Some lads start with a trolley or back pack and then in time move to a van mount. (I did)
The humping barrells for 18 months just did me. 1 barrell would do a house plus some of the next
Do what you can afford to do, but do it go water fed. You can awalys upgrade when you have more funds or have got to like this method
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sean84

Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012, 10:15:14 pm »
Definately a van mount. If you buy a trolley system you will find you will have grown out of it by the summer.


On a van mount system is the water purified in the van? Or you purify at home, then pump into the van?

Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2012, 10:27:33 pm »
IMO I would have a static tank and not purify in the van. Because if you need say 300 litres you would need to carry 500/600 litres as one would waste half. This large amount of water slopping around in the tank puts a strain on your vans clutch/brakes/suspension  and so on even if the tank is baffled.

Carl@Cwc

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2012, 10:37:26 pm »
??????????????

thats not how in van RO works .
you connect mains to inlet and get x amount of litres of pure water , you never carry unpure about ?????????

Panorama

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2012, 11:03:19 pm »
Van mount

That's not information, That's an opinion .............. a good one though.  ;)

If you use a flow controller, you would probably use about 1-1.5 lpm, I find this is plenty.  






I stand corrected said the man in the orthopaedic shoes, go van mount don't arse about with barrels . If you were working at a flow rate of 2lts per min you would go through a 25lt barrel in 12.5 minutes, ( back to car for another barrel ) its a no brainer

andrewlefkas

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 09:48:24 pm »
Just to give another viewpoint ,I havnt used van mount only trolly/25l containers ,I find it okay to be honest and can do three samll semis with 25 l or like today been on detached with conservatory and used about 15- 18 l per house . I like to have the use of van for other things to be honest and with my belly the exercise can only be good ;D
I have no worries about tank freezing in cold weather as all containers kept indoors in garage.My round is spread out as well so it wouldnt lend itself to being able to do lots of houses with one stop - id need miles of hose. HOWEVER never say never as i can see how good it could be with compact houses in same street . Some advantages for me with trolly/containers. ;D

kris martin

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2012, 11:50:02 pm »
I have a trolley and have had one for four years, most of the time it is out of the van with a barrel but sometimes it is used as a van mount. For the whole of e last week it has just been used as a van mount apart from abot two hours and them two hours was like a blessing, I think it is personal preference to weather a van mount is better me personally prefer the machine out of the van but I think it will depend on the type of work you have. The amount of water you use will depend on how dirty the work is but on general maintenance cleans 25 litres last me about forty minutes

A Foster

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2012, 12:58:47 am »
Thanks for all the replies.

It seems Van mount is favoured, depending on funds for the set up.

The main concern was how much water is needed. I wanted to make sure that you wouldn't have to change a 25L barrel every house.

It seems as though a backpack may still be useful if go for van mount, or like some have said, get a trolley to start with  that can be used as or converted to a van mount.

Appreciated.

Panorama

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2012, 09:13:49 am »
Just been looking on pure freedom website , a trolley and a DIY van mount are virtually the same price, if youve got a van I would go van mount,  don't get me wrong I'm not knocking trolleys ( I have a backpack myself ) but take a look at dazmonds threads .

johnny bravo

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2012, 12:50:11 pm »
panorama,    just starting to get into wfp cleaning,   im hoping to just clean the tops on my round,  the ones i dont feel comfortable  on ladder , untill i pick it up.    can you advise me on which backpack to purchase and why.  i have a pole and brush, just need to get started,   practice on my own to begin with.

Panorama

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2012, 07:13:36 pm »
Hi, I got a John Hewitt esr, holds 18 lts,

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Re: How much water is used in WFP
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2012, 07:16:40 pm »
depending on building size but on average working say 7 hours or so i would make sure you have 400 liters.

first cleans wont last you that long