[Frankybadboy]

havent been done for a few days.



me thinks trad better

your views

[Pope vader]

i agree  trad is a skill, any idiot can wave a pole  lol

[CLEANCARE WC]

i use the magic magnet my customers seem to like it.

[Jackal]

nahhhhh,just a wet rag an a dry rag will do

[colin purewater]

I took a lad on the other day
He was an idiot and could use a pole

Bye bye boy from the village  (rolley eyes)

[Lee GLS]

I've got self cleaning glass so I don't need either 

[windiewasher]

spit n rag works for me,not good when you have a cold though!

[Steve_c]

Your all wrong, i found blue paper and vinegar

[Londoner]

Nah , newspaper is better.

You ought to go back over some of the oldest posts and look at what was said.

Customers will never ever pay to have some idiot clean their windows with a bog brush on a broom handle.

[bumper]

ive been part wfp since feb and i have to say trade is better  finnish and wfp is a bit crap makes some jobs easy  tho,im sure some of my customers dornt like it wfp but dornt say anything.

[Frankybadboy]

i do find it rather odd that some of these guys call themself window cleaners and cant even master the skill of doing trad.


it such a skill to have,and comes in use

[Londoner]

ive been part wfp since feb and i have to say trade is better  finnish and wfp is a bit crap makes some jobs easy  tho,im sure some of my customers dornt like it wfp but dornt say anything.

It doesn't actually matter what the customers think as long as they pay you. Sometimes we think far too deeply about things like this and get all anal about it.
MacDonalds sell rubbish food but its good enough to bring people through the door. Thats all they need, anything beyond that is wasted effort. Its not a failing on their part its a carefully worked out business strategy.

I suspect most of us do a far better job than we actually need to. Its nice to do a good job and take pride in your work. I couldn't do it any other way so I am a fine one to talk. There are some pretty naf window cleaners around but they probably make a better living than you do as they only spend half the time you do on a house. Who's the mug?

If you were to employ a smart ass business guru to advise you he would probably say something like this. Cut your standards, just do more and quicker. Accept you will lose a few but replace them with others that are not so fussy.

To an extent that is what you do when you go WFP. The thing is you have to RECOGNISE thats what you are doing and understand WHY you are doing it and what the long term game plan is. MONEY

[gary999]

i suppose the real old boys who were sammy the shammy
thought the same when these new fangled squeegees came
out,but things change jobs evolve and so does equipment.

i can trad but choose not to but lets not carried away here
the boys who cant,it wouldnt take them long to learn and
get to a reasonable speed its hardly plumbing or being a
electrician.

skill wise whatever method you use lets be honest
difficult it isnt.

thats why i do it, little effort small investment and good return

[dd]

I think all trad guys should be lined up in front of their families and shot. That would stop these pointless debates and prevent them falling off their ladders.

[spongebob]

havent been done for a few days.



me thinks trad better

your views

There's only one way to decide this...................FIGHT!!

[Blue Frog Systems]

I like to wfp, then get the ladders out and trad

[Ronnie Bryce]

Using a squeegee is not a skill in any sense, it's just a knack. Hell I can do it with my feet if my hand's get cold enough and the window is not to high!!

[Richard Shepherd]

Using a squeegee is not a skill in any sense, it's just a knack. Hell I can do it with my feet if my hand's get cold enough and the window is not to high!!

Now that I would like to see 

[wfp master]

i do find it rather odd that some of these guys call themself window cleaners and cant even master the skill of doing trad.
always gives me a laugh when i hear that.

it such a skill to have,and comes in use

[AuRavelling79]

Using a squeegee is not a skill in any sense, it's just a knack. Hell I can do it with my feet if my hand's get cold enough and the window is not to high!!

Now that I would like to see  

No you wouldn't - Ronnie B (sorry it's a small b now he's deleted himself and come back again) wears a kilt and I've seen better legs hanging out of a nest!  

[Frankybadboy]

i do find it rather odd that some of these guys call themself window cleaners and cant even master the skill of doing trad.
always gives me a laugh when i hear that.

it such a skill to have,and comes in use

so you are a window washer only then

[Dave Willis]

Cleaning windows is a highly skilled job - after all you need an NVQ to do it. Lots of studying and exams at the end of it.
Don't think it applies to wfp though - any idiot can stick 100 feet of pole in the air and waggle it about with no qualifications at all. 

[Frankybadboy]

Cleaning windows is a highly skilled job - after all you need an NVQ to do it. Lots of studying and exams at the end of it.
Don't think it applies to wfp though - any idiot can stick 100 feet of pole in the air and waggle it about with no qualifications at all. 

i do agree with the above

[daniel worgan]

Cleaning windows is a highly skilled job - after all you need an NVQ to do it. Lots of studying and exams at the end of it.
Don't think it applies to wfp though - any idiot can stick 100 feet of pole in the air and waggle it about with no qualifications at all. 

i do agree with the above

I only go to 60 foot...but i still agree.....

[dazmond]

TRAD great for some work but its limited to less than 20% of my work now.advantages?there are certain windows that just dont come up good with wfp.usually perished rubber seals.also its easier for some work than dragging a hose around.handy for doorways and large plate glass windows esp if its an older customer on a cold day(not leaving water lying around that could freeze).disadvantages?its usually a bit slower not by much though if your a good tradder!


WFP IS KING FOR MOST WORK!!!it really is!!after 20 months wfp i can burn through my work much faster with less fatigue,earn more,safer and complete work to a better standard for time spent on the job.disadvantages?not many IMO.the odd snagging issues and small equipment problems but there usually easily rectified.the cost of equipment and van running costs are higher thats for sure but easily paid for by the increased earning power that having wfp gives you.

some of the jobs ive picked up this year i wouldnt attempt to clean off ladder.too risky,too slow and woudnt be able to hit some of the hourly rates i can earn these days.


regards


dazmond

[Londoner]

Using a squeegee is not a skill in any sense, it's just a knack. Hell I can do it with my feet if my hand's get cold enough and the window is not to high!!

Do you stick a broom up your arse and sweep up the leaves at the same time?

[michael o]

I've got self cleaning glass so I don't need either 

does your self cleaning glass get bird droppings off

[wezzy32]

priced 2 houses   up 2day £40 1 house trad next door £50 wfp same type of house but im cleaning the windows above conny on the wfp house.
so for extra money wfp but i dont mind doing either

[bad trippy]

Frank just loves cleaning windows,wfp or trad,he needs it like a drug, he's addicted 

[Frankybadboy]

Frank just loves cleaning windows,wfp or trad,he needs it like a drug, he's addicted 

says the man who doesnt stop chatting work when out on a social night out,whos sad.?


kettle calling pot black trippy

[Ross G]

I think all trad guys should be lined up in front of their families and shot. That would stop these pointless debates and prevent them falling off their ladders.

AN UTTER OUTRAGE


 

[stuart mc]

I think all trad guys should be lined up in front of their families and shot. That would stop these pointless debates and prevent them falling off their ladders.

AN UTTER OUTRAGE


 

  and then shoot anyone that commits suicide

[Robert hawes]

i like trad and wfp we do wfp up and trad down, 

[peter holley]

you arte alll xxxxx bonkers you bunch of xxxcx xxxx kers... I just collect the money... that my klads didnt do