[South Window Cleaning Ltd]

Should england introduce licencing for window cleaners.

Would this help to improve the image of the industry ?.

would this stop the dolies.

I ASKED THIS QUESTION LAST YEAR, BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF OPINION HAD CHANGED MUCH ??

[Frankybadboy]

has it done anything in scotland? you should ask

[gary999]

nothing stops the dolies

apart from the winter.

i already get taxed enough thanks i dont need anymore
thankyou very much

[Pope vader]

yes they should introduce licences and they should only introduce a certain number in each post code, and they should get the fed to run it for the gov, that way you have to be a member of the fed to work,  and if one of the big boys buys up all the license for a area tuff luck,  that will stop all the dolies from working wont it

[dave f]

sorry but that is a load of crap its every bodys right to work 

[stuart mc]

has it done anything in scotland? you should ask

yes just ask I am not answering though I get bored of saying stop it, don't waste your money

[richard jagger]

What we really need is for some like minded shiners to realize we have the same needs and goals and start working and striving for the same goals. One does not rise up by pushing other down, but by progressing upwards and being better.

[petemg]

no way, we will need a licence to breath if the goverment got there way, its all the licencing red tape and high taxation thats keeping this country in the poop, by all means go out and get an honest living but keep it simple...........pete

[matthewprice]

got one its a pain takes 6 weeks to get if need help due to sickness cant employ until all paper work in place ect /also gives h&s another hold over you ect ,and £300 every 3 year,and never had ours checked in15 years

[sandy]

take it from a jock it is pure con just another tax you get nothing for your money if tommy sheriden was a window cleaner it would be abbolished

[stuart mc]

take it from a jock it is pure con just another tax you get nothing for your money if tommy sheriden was a window cleaner it would be abbolished

tommy sheriden would't get a license with his convictions or maybe he would it is that random

[JSMC]

know plenty guys with criminal records who have licences. They cant really stop you LOL. the licence doesn't stop people on the side. Also if you do ge tyer licence how is it gonna change yer business? you gonna increase prices or something. It really makes no difference to my work at all. Have 2 licences for 2 different regions. one i only use once per week for 2 hours.

Also some councils split their region up into zones like south lanarkshire who have 3 zones.

[tacky]

would b a good idea .but they would have no one to enforce it ,do u think the guys on the dole would take any notice .3 houses n they earnt their beer money .they get caught they leave windows for few days then carry on

[JSMC]

would b a good idea .but they would have no one to enforce it ,do u think the guys on the dole would take any notice .3 houses n they earnt their beer money .they get caught they leave windows for few days then carry on

there are legit large companies who were not licensed up here also LOL. Don't kid yourself the bigger companies are the worst offenders. I heard the company who were clenaing the parliament building were not licensed LOL.

[combat1]

It would be like the working at height directive, theres not enough people to monitor it so people just keep on ignoring it

[daniel worgan]

Dont worry this country is buggered up enough to tax you on anything,so it is only a matter of time till the thieving gits from your local councils get their hands in your pockets.But in answer to your question...A BIG NO FROM ME.

[Londoner]

If you work on other people's property everybody (not just window cleaners) ought to have a licence but if it came in nobody would enforce it.

[daniel worgan]

If you work on other people's property everybody (not just window cleaners) ought to have a licence but if it came in nobody would enforce it.

Why should everyone have a license?
I have had numerous people working in my houses over the years without being licensed by the local authorities.Thats what is being talked about here,licenses issued by local authorities,not professional trade bodies.

[bobby p]

a lot of trades seem to wear an ID  badge now i notice.  and at social gatherings too

[Richard Shepherd]

yes they should introduce licences and they should only introduce a certain number in each post code, and they should get the fed to run it for the gov, that way you have to be a member of the fed to work,  and if one of the big boys buys up all the license for a area tuff luck,  that will stop all the dolies from working wont it

You read some good stuff on forums and you read some garbage, this is the biggest load of garbage ever.

In my town there are around 10 window cleaners, all have been at it for a good number of years, all have established rounds. If England introduced licencing and allowed 6 licences in my area, do you honestly think the 4 windies who don't get a licence are just going to roll over and stop cleaning, sort your head out.

I pay to much tax on my earnings after I have worked, I don't need to be paying to be allowed to work as well.

[Pope vader]

it was meant to be garbage. as this is what would happen if they brought in licence in england, as you can guarantee the fed would want in on it as a way to make you join them

[Londoner]

If you work on other people's property everybody (not just window cleaners) ought to have a licence but if it came in nobody would enforce it.

Why should everyone have a license?
I have had numerous people working in my houses over the years without being licensed by the local authorities.Thats what is being talked about here,licenses issued by local authorities,not professional trade bodies.

CRB checks is a big one? In america everybody who works within a city's area of jurisdiction has to be registered at city hall and any member of the public can check their details, address, qualifictions etc. Watch a few episodes of cowboy builders and you will see why I think that would be a good idea here. You really don't get that sort of thing going on over there. Gardeners, pool men, telephone engineers all turn up with an ID round their neck. Taxi drivers over here have to wear one, why not everybody else?

[JSMC]

a licence doesn't shift workers on the side, it doesn't shift dodgy companies, it doesn't make good companies better.

basically it does nothing in my eyes. it's just a piece of paper and nothing else. Spoke to a lawyer where he has dealt with cases and people get a fine or thrown out of court.

[Llaaww]

Should england introduce licencing for window cleaners.

Would this help to improve the image of the industry ?.

would this stop the dolies.

I ASKED THIS QUESTION LAST YEAR, BUT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF OPINION HAD CHANGED MUCH ??

My vote is a big fat NO.

From time to time somebody mentions this, and it really bothers me. It is usually some smart alec with an established business looking for a way to pee on the little mans chips.

This industry has been the cheapest and easiest way for a bloke to set up in business since glass was invented. It has given thousands of men and women an opportunity to get themselves out of the gutter, with minimal investment/ capital etc. Ok it may attract a few scallies here and there, but overall any harm or damage that they cause is minimal, especially when compared to other rogue traders who fleece people for thousands of pounds and even more, without coming up with the goods.

A rogue windie will only get away with bumping a couple of windows, or maybe nicking the odd garden ornament.

If a licence system were introduced it would only serve as a revenue spinner for the local authority, and at best they would only break even after administering the system. It would be an added red tape burden for people who struggle with paperwork (but can and do graft), and basically it would be a pain in the ears for everybody involved.

[JSMC]

for anyone thinking it will change the industry go outsdie and breath in some fresh air then hit yourself a slap.

it does nothing trust me! absolutely nothing. As i said before large companies dont give a toss about it most of the time. I have been asked twice in 3 years for mines.

[stuart mc]

for anyone thinking it will change the industry go outsdie and breath in some fresh air then hit yourself a slap.

it does nothing trust me! absolutely nothing. As i said before large companies dont give a toss about it most of the time. I have been asked twice in 3 years for mines.

mate you are wasting your time I got bored answering these post after the first 3 years : someone else will ask in 2 months time and you get fed up telling them

[BORBRYCE]

I think they should pay a license. All the wonga collected should then be sent up to the Jock's to go in a big fund for Jock windies, to be dished out on cold winter day's. It's only fair as we get harsher weather and our heating cost's are more expensive. We should all be in it together, should we not?
In return,  the Jock's will continue to let english people live next door to them without any fuss or jokes about their southern fat, middle aged, tattooed women.

[stuart mc]

I think they should pay a license. All the wonga collected should then be sent up to The Jock's to go in a big fund for Jock windies, to be dished out on cold winter day's. It's only fair as we get harsher weather and our heating cost's are more expensive. We should all be in it together, should we not?
In return,  the Jock's will continue to let english people live next door to them without any fuss or jokes about their southern fat, middle aged, tattooed women.

that sounds fair Ronnie, a well thought out plan, perhaps it could subsidise our license fees too. As we are poorer and live shorter lives.

[South Window Cleaning Ltd]

 

[Frankybadboy]

I think they should pay a license. All the wonga collected should then be sent up to the Jock's to go in a big fund for Jock windies, to be dished out on cold winter day's. It's only fair as we get harsher weather and our heating cost's are more expensive. We should all be in it together, should we not?
In return,  the Jock's will continue to let english people live next door to them without any fuss or jokes about their southern fat, middle aged, tattooed women.

just get your fat axs down south ronnie baby,you know it makes sense

[weetot]

I think they should pay a license. All the wonga collected should then be sent up to the Jock's to go in a big fund for Jock windies, to be dished out on cold winter day's. It's only fair as we get harsher weather and our heating cost's are more expensive. We should all be in it together, should we not?
In return,  the Jock's will continue to let english people live next door to them without any fuss or jokes about their southern fat, middle aged, tattooed women.

Nice one Ronnie, get the violins out for the Scots, there as hard as coffin nails.
Dont worry Ronnie, in the next life you'll come back as a wee fat guinea pig with loads of fur to keep ya warm.
Shame we couldnt make a living from playin our drums though.

[lee_dewing]

The idea off a licence doesn't work; as it has one tiny flaw......................it's BOLLOX!

[Claude Fenner]

Chances are if you're not getting enough business it because you're not getting out there often enough and selling yourself hard enough. But its easier to blame the dole moles or something else rather than yourself. Licensing with out strong enforcement is about as much good as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition and wont make a blind bit of difference to what I suspect is your real problem.

[weetot]

Chances are if you're not getting enough business it because you're not getting out there often enough and selling yourself hard enough. But its easier to blame the dole moles or something else rather than yourself. Licensing with out strong enforcement is about as much good as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition and wont make a blind bit of difference to what I suspect is your real problem.

Nice first post my friend. Welcome to the nuthouse.