[scott aird]

just thought i would start off a litte fav product thread. was thinking today about it and mine is alltec ultimate master whats yours?

[homenclean]

Coffee

[The Carpet Cleaning Pro]

Would definitely have to be H2O. After that... shockwave.

[Robin Ray]

Powererburst or Bliz. Then of course an Acid rinse.

[macky]

Nitro

[Tibi N.]

Ultimate M. powder

[neil 47]

Shockwave

[COLIN BRIGHT]

whatever is in the van.......i do like the linen fresh restore-it from restormate

[clive ware]

Scott, i`ve used UM for years but not sure if i like the new formulation. Turns the water purple!!

[john martin]

UM - I think they fixed all the Criticisms leveled against it , it dissolves quicker and   easier at low temps , it wont leave a deposit on your immersion element or what ever , it flows better , less dust rising from it as u fill .
I kinda prefer the  older strong lemon fragrance it use to have years ago  though  .

[elliott cleaning]

Never understood the fascination with UM - Clive now reckons it turns the water purple - but then with Clive we never know what high he is on on the day.  John reckons they have changed it so that deposits on heaters - flow problems - and dust have been improved.

Why bother with a product that isn't A1 from the start

[john martin]

The purple is translucency , trick of the light sort of thing . 

[Sergio]

Why did not anyone mention prochem chems?

[Steven Butler]

P.O.G

[MarkSutcliffe]

I'm trying new chems atm

tried a mix of prochem and craftex, but not keen on in-tank..

got the WOC sample pack, m power seems to have done it.. but didnt yesterday.. going back doing it with Nitro on friday..

used shockwave today and it worked for half the carpet.. not so much on the other half .. strange carpet..

tried Alltec, might venture back over there.. citrus prespray seems to work well.

whats a good blend..

[john martin]

I'm trying new chems atm

tried a mix of prochem and craftex, but not keen on in-tank..

got the WOC sample pack, m power seems to have done it.. but didnt yesterday.. going back doing it with Nitro on friday..

used shockwave today and it worked for half the carpet.. not so much on the other half .. strange carpet..

tried Alltec, might venture back over there.. citrus prespray seems to work well.

whats a good blend..

Isnt it hilarious that nitro and shockwave would be similar to products by the likes of chemspec 10 yrs ago , yet theyre the only thing on cleantalk that actualy works well  ,  and then theres the excuses why Mpoer wont work , your waters the wrong kind  you mixed it at 1 to 121 insted of 120   etc   
The citrus prespray u mention is a great allrounder , limonene and a surfactant , it will handle almost everything generally and is unlikely to damage anything , and everyone like the smell of orange .   You dont like intank ? might it be that used some fairly foamy products , i wouldnt be into that either ... but i alway like to have a shake of ultimate master powder intank , youd barely know its there , but it seems to add to a slighlty brighter result in general i find .

[MarkSutcliffe]

I'm trying new chems atm

tried a mix of prochem and craftex, but not keen on in-tank..

got the WOC sample pack, m power seems to have done it.. but didnt yesterday.. going back doing it with Nitro on friday..

used shockwave today and it worked for half the carpet.. not so much on the other half .. strange carpet..

tried Alltec, might venture back over there.. citrus prespray seems to work well.

whats a good blend..

Isnt it hilarious that nitro and shockwave would be similar to products by the likes of chemspec 10 yrs ago , yet theyre the only thing on cleantalk that actualy works well  ,  and then theres the excuses why Mpoer wont work , your waters the wrong kind  you mixed it at 1 to 121 insted of 120   etc   
The citrus prespray u mention is a great allrounder , limonene and a surfactant , it will handle almost everything generally and is unlikely to damage anything , and everyone like the smell of orange .   You dont like intank ? might it be that used some fairly foamy products , i wouldnt be into that either ... but i alway like to have a shake of ultimate powder intank , youd barely know its there , but it seems to add to a slighlty brighter result in general i find .

tbh my best results have been with in-tanks..

got
craftex premium clean - high ph
prochem crystal green - mid ph
prochem fibresafe - ph neutral

can't get on with crystal green, just hasn't worked..

m-power seems to work well on upholstery, and the spotter well on makeup,

I'm one of those people that prefers to buy off shelf, its easier than waiting for mr postie.. BUT alltec use dhl who will put the item exactly where you ask.. much easier.. the two local suppliers are craftex and prochem..

[Sergio]

Do you know an additive to boost Prochem Prespray Gold? (for oriental rugs)

[john martin]

Do you know an additive to boost Prochem Prespray Gold? (for oriental rugs)

prespray gold as mentioned is not lacking much ,   it already contains some of the components u might boost with eg propanol and citrus ( limonine )  u could add more of those to adjust the mix if u had something mad dirty , apart form those i suppose u could add a source of peroxide to brighten some rugs , subject to testing and suitability for the rug

[Sergio]

Do you know an additive to boost Prochem Prespray Gold? (for oriental rugs)

prespray gold as mentioned is not lacking much ,   it already contains some of the components u might boost with eg propanol and citrus ( limonine )  u could add more of those to adjust the mix if u had something mad dirty , apart form those i suppose u could add a source of peroxide to brighten some rugs , subject to testing and suitability for the rug

what is peroxide?

[MarkSutcliffe]

if you don't know.. don't touch it..

you'll end up looking like Eminem..

[Sergio]

if you don't know.. don't touch it..

you'll end up looking like Eminem..

It's hydrogen peroxide?
Do I recommend quantity and percentage of purity?

[Paul Dunkley]

Why did not anyone mention prochem chems?

Citrus Jel is a must

[MarkSutcliffe]

loving craftex in-tank ones atm.

[Sergio]

Why did not anyone mention prochem chems?

Citrus Jel is a must

you mean it?
http://www.prochem-uk.com/product.php?xProd=77&xSec=18

[cliniclean]

I used to use texatherm product but found cheaper alternetive from a local car valet company

[md_cleaning]

I use SPM pre spray and formula 90 in tank and always use micro spotter, take these on every job, but sometimes need others

[Stoots]

Only really use SPM, dont do that many carpets really and cant be bothered trying owt else as long as it keeps working. Got a big tub so should last years at this rate.

[Sergio]

usually, microsplitter or detergent?

[john martin]

usually, microsplitter or detergent?

Sergio  ,     just so u know the chemistry of what your using so can make more informed choices ... im going to ... yet again    try and define what micro splitter is  ... 
Microsplitter is just phosphate ,     phosphate is often basic detergent ingredient  .   So Microsplitter is not a seperate chemical to detergent ... its just detergent with less ingredients .
It started in the early 90s when some BS artist from the states was trying to make a quick buck in europe and met his German equivilant who was selling the one step product , claiming it was better than existing carpet cleaning products at the time because the soap they contained was causing rapid resoiling .  ( This is all irrelevant now as soap is no longer used in carpet cleaning products )
So Microsplitter would be like a baker making a fruit cake ... but not including the fruit ... and then claiming what hes made is a completely different food group ...     but really its just basic cake .  But hey , if he can market it ... hes on to a winner , because its cheap to make without the fruit . 

[Sergio]

Thanks John,
It was very interesting to know the chemical composition of microsplitters. I washed last 5 oriental rugs with One Step Fine Line (from German).  You must know that this product is not cheap and also that the cleaning of the rugs  was very good.  10 lt cost £ 50

Do you know equal good microsplitter but cheaper?

[Nobby]

Cheaper forms of microsplitters are Prochem Pureclean and Craftex Microsplit. Both good products and good value.

[Sergio]

Cheaper forms of microsplitters are Prochem Pureclean and Craftex Microsplit. Both good products and good value.

Thanks Nobby,  I will consider these microsplitters.

I'm also  watching these two microsplitters:
- Alltec Oriental Rug Detergent Free Cleaner
- Cleansmart Wool-X

In a hypothetical comparison of these 5 microsplitters, how would you position them?
-Prochem Pureclean
-Craftex microsplit
-Onestep Fine Line (Woolsafe Approved)
-Alltec Oriental Rug Detergent Free Cleaner
-Cleansmart Wool-X

[john martin]

Cheaper forms of microsplitters are Prochem Pureclean and Craftex Microsplit. Both good products and good value.

Thanks Nobby,  I will consider these microsplitters.

I'm also  watching these two microsplitters:
- Alltec Oriental Rug Detergent Free Cleaner
- Cleansmart Wool-X

In a hypothetical comparison of these 5 microsplitters, how would you position them?
-Prochem Pureclean
-Craftex microsplit
-Onestep Fine Line (Woolsafe Approved)
-Alltec Oriental Rug Detergent Free Cleaner
-Cleansmart Wool-X

i would consider alltec ultimate master Sergio , its like microsplitter but with other great ingredients to make your rugs look great 
also , if your just cleaning the rugs with the extraction machine , would a bit of heat hurt ?  i would use a quick hot pass on the worst rugs , it might make your chemicals perform better . Are u afraid it will distort the rug shape or something ? hasnt happened to me , but like i said , just a single hot pass not going crazy on them .

[Sergio]

Thanks John.
Usually my washing method is:

Dusting
Spray a chemical
Agitation with Rotowash R30B
Dwell
Rinse/Extraction with  handtool

Now you know my washing method. You think that Alltec Ultimate Master is the most suitable for washing heavy/lighty soiling oriental rugs?

[Adam Surry]

powerburst.... fibre and fabric rinse.... stella

[Sergio]

powerburst.... fibre and fabric rinse.... stella

Powerburst is suitable for wool carpets?

[Robin Ray]

From the Powerburst spec sheet...

"Always pretest carpet for colour fastness with ready-to-use solution before proceeding.
Apply diluted solution by sprayer then agitate with carpet pile brush.
Allow to react with soil for 5 to 10 minutes then extract with B109 Fibre & Fabric Rinse or Prochem extraction detergent.
Do not allow pretreated areas to dry before extracting.
Always rinse with B109 Fibre & Fabric Rinse on Wool and Wool-mix carpets"

https://prochem.co.uk/pdf/psss789.pdf

[Sergio]

From the Powerburst spec sheet...

"Always pretest carpet for colour fastness with ready-to-use solution before proceeding.
Apply diluted solution by sprayer then agitate with carpet pile brush.
Allow to react with soil for 5 to 10 minutes then extract with B109 Fibre & Fabric Rinse or Prochem extraction detergent.
Do not allow pretreated areas to dry before extracting.
Always rinse with B109 Fibre & Fabric Rinse on Wool and Wool-mix carpets"

http://www.prochem-uk.com/shopimages/pdf/psss789.pdf

Powerbrust is a microsplitter cleaner?

[Robin Ray]

No, Powerburst is a detergent. Have a look at the Specification sheet in the link.

Don't worry too much whether a product is called a Microsplitter or a detergent. Give it a go and and if it works for you use it.

[kinder clean]

Chemspec DFC 210 powder. ( Now changed name to 'One Earth' ) I use it for both carpets and upholstery.

Paul