Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jmj on May 13, 2018, 07:11:54 pm
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Working away on Friday and luckily got to the end of my job. I noticed some water pooling under the machine, the vacs were still running at the time. Shut everything down and empited out the remaining waste water. Looked inside the waste tank only to find a 6 inch hairline crack in the tank wall. The area just above the vac motor mounting. #### The machine is 10 days shy of the 5 year casing guarantee, however I've not owned it from new. Thus not covered . Any ideas of how to remedy other than a replacement waste tank ?
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I would phone Ashbys and ask them what would be the best adhesive/ filler to fill the crack. You might need to sand it to get a key. Apply to both inside and out. I used Wikes ultimate grab adhesive as a filler and it worked until I got another tank.
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agree with the above ... there may be perfect adhesive that even welds insted of just sticking .... i dont know what it is ashbys should . Im so suprised its cracked ... i know from drilling throught it its about one cm thick and looks like a sledge hammer would bounce off it .... perhaps it got a heavy fall from a van at somestage in its life .
If its hairline you could ... run a hot soldering iron tip along the crack on both sides .... melts easy im sure that would seal it ....but check with ashbys first
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This is very good stuff, would work good in your tank.
https://waterproofyourbathroom.com/product/classi-seal-2m/
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John Martin,
I'm at a loss how it happened as I'm very careful when handling my machines. I've got a back up so, I'm in no immediate hurry for a temp fix. From what I can see it looks fairly straight forward to replace the tank ? ( famous last words) I live in the north west so would like to try and replace myself. £150 carriage is a lot of ££££'s. From what I can see,Take off the waste tank lid, remove the fixing bolts, remove/refit the gate valve,replace/refit the ball cage and remove the vac motor. On the vac motor are the fixing bolts bedded into the bottom of the tank ? Anything I may have missed ?
Glynn,
Would you say the product you recommend is a temp fix or could last a while, ie have you used it for something similar ?
Thanks Dutchman for the suggestion Wickes is local to me too.
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yeah ,should be straight forward to replace , better than the clean tank . i wonder would an over tightened vac motor put pressure on the bottom of the tank . perhaps
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Its not cracked on the bottom. When you look at the bottom of the waste tank, you'll see the outline of where the vac motor locates. Leading up from this is a half tube shape which runs to the top of the tank. Its along this tube the crack has happened, further investigation shows its split from bottom to top.
Not had any reason to touch the vac motor do far but you could be right perhaps.
joe
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I would say so,yes. Try it, its sticks like sxit to a blanket.
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Sikaflex marine will do a better job than any of the above.
https://www.uksealants.co.uk/sikaflex-291i-marine-adhesive-sealant-300ml.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7oOY0pSG2wIVS7TtCh3jZwKkEAQYASABEgJSl_D_BwE
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UPDATE
Fitted a new replacement waste tank this week. Pretty straight forward and all seems to be working well. Whilst taking the cracked waste tank off I found it was an exsisting fault. I purchased this off someone some 2 months ago and surprisingly he never mentioned it !
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Probably some one moving the machine with water in it. I wouldn’t want to do much of that though. My new Enforcer arived last week and I was astounded at how heavy duty it is!
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Probably some one moving the machine with water in it. I wouldn’t want to do much of that though. My new Enforcer arived last week and I was astounded at how heavy duty it is!
what spec did u go for ?? how bout a mini review sometime !
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John
Great machine look's very professional.
Nearly everyone of my customers pass comments on the machine.
Aa being quite heavy ican lift mine quite easily into my van by pulling it back on the two large wheels and placing both small wheels at front into van and lift.
Regards
Chris
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John
Great machine look's very professional.
Nearly everyone of my customers pass comments on the machine.
Aa being quite heavy ican lift mine quite easily into my van by pulling it back on the two large wheels and placing both small wheels at front into van and lift.
Regards
Chris
Thats great Chris , its a really well thought out machine .
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Probably some one moving the machine with water in it. I wouldn’t want to do much of that though. My new Enforcer arived last week and I was astounded at how heavy duty it is!
what spec did u go for ?? how bout a mini review sometime !
It’s the 800psi 6.6 model. I’m looking forward to giving it a go but I have had loads of tile cleaning jobs on. I will do a review when I get the chance, it will probably be a couple of weeks though. All I can say at the moment is it is the most robust portable machine I have ever seen. It has loads of features which are excellent like the auto fill lid having a drip tray which drains into the tank. The massive seal on the waste tank. The check valves on the motors so you can still use it even if one goes out. Even though I haven’t actually used it yet it seems to be a machine which is built with a lot of for thought. After buying a few lemons in the past I agonised over which machine to get and the Enforcer does seem to be on top at the moment.
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Robin do you use a portly much? Thought you had a Truckmount ?
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I have gone back to a portable. Have been for a while now. It’s van mounted. 99% of my work is within 100ft of the van so at works well for me. If I need to go further I use a porty as a porty, but it’s rare. I have a way of producing tm levels of heat constantly. It’s no surprise that the vacuum isn’t as powerful as a 45 blower but for me it doesn’t take that much longer or leave the carpets that much wetter. When I have the Enforcer set up properly I will do a video of it all working. I know many will look down on me for going back but it works for me.
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I have gone back to a portable. Have been for a while now. It’s van mounted. 99% of my work is within 100ft of the van so at works well for me. If I need to go further I use a porty as a porty, but it’s rare. I have a way of producing tm levels of heat constantly. It’s no surprise that the vacuum isn’t as powerful as a 45 blower but for me it doesn’t take that much longer or leave the carpets that much wetter. When I have the Enforcer set up properly I will do a video of it all working. I know many will look down on me for going back but it works for me.
The heat sounds intriguing ... hmm ... two inline heaters ? and burner of some sort ???
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I have gone back to a portable. Have been for a while now. It’s van mounted. 99% of my work is within 100ft of the van so at works well for me. If I need to go further I use a porty as a porty, but it’s rare. I have a way of producing tm levels of heat constantly. It’s no surprise that the vacuum isn’t as powerful as a 45 blower but for me it doesn’t take that much longer or leave the carpets that much wetter. When I have the Enforcer set up properly I will do a video of it all working. I know many will look down on me for going back but it works for me.
The heat sounds intriguing ... hmm ... two inline heaters ? and burner of some sort ???
Its nothing overly complex. Just a lagged tank in the van which is pre heated to 60 degrees then I run the water through an inline heater up to 110 degrees. I can fill the tank full of hot water first if i want then heat it up further if i need to , or just heat it from cold. Because it is lagged it holds the heat all day. I have come down in the morning and the tank was still at 45 degrees from the day before. Its the cheapest and easiest way i have found to produce really hot water and have as much as i need all day. I have been doing it for months now and its great!
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very good , perhaps youl show all that in your video ...
u could boost your performance to a 45+ easy ... if you have a spare 1k laying aound to buy two airflex pods :)
just strap em together and connect one to each of your two back exhaust pipes ....
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;D ..ha.. yes could do .. I would need 5 cords to run it all though :o
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i do it daily ... two cords
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Robin, you didn’t have your TM long what made you get rid?
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Nothing against Craig at all as he went out of his way to help out. The machine however had a number of teething issues which sapped huge amounts of time. Don't get me wrong it had awesome power though. He eventually removed the machine as I had jobs to do and needed to earn money and my old way of working was still available to me. He did sort all the problems under warranty but I decided I was better off selling the machine rather than re fitting it.
If I was to go back to a TM I would have a water cooled new machine something like the Titan or the prochem or sapphire equivalent. Maybe one day the Hydramaster CDS Xdrive will come to the uk and that very well make me get one. For the time being though I have learned that even on the good days the difference between my existing way of working and a fuel powered TM are very small indeed and the added expense and hassle of owning a TM doesn't justify itself in the potential added profit. (for me) After all business is all about profit at the end of the day. I did like the idea of having one but I would literally be having one because I like it rather than any logical financial reason.
I do think TM's are fantastic things and in the right circumstances they can really be money making machines, however in other circumstances they can be money sapping machines. For all the TM users out there please don't think I am having a dig, after all we all do what we feels works best at the end of the day.
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Hi Robin, I like the sound of your van set up, any chance of some pics, I’ve been looking at the enforcer myself and have been down to Ashby‘s to get a demonstration very impressive Machine. I also met a man at the alltech open day recently who sold his enforcer and bought a Jaguar and has it van mounted with two tanks that work quite well and he was very happy with the set up. I like the idea of carrying heated water to give you a head start on jobs. I run a oven cleaning company and we use electric custom made insulated cleaning thanks, so getting a custom made tank for my carpet cleaning van wouldn’t be a problem.
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I will take tome photos at some point. I am still getting the set up sorted properly at the moment though. Its been a bit busy to get things polished. I cant complain about being busy though.
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allan I run my enforcer out the back of my van all the time
its really powerful give it a go .I have an extracts turbo for jobs I cant get near enough
you will not look back