ChumBucket

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2014, 12:58:56 pm »
Just buy a new controller, my MKII digi' varistream has never missed a beat. However, I'll replace it with a spring analogue when it does.

Don't faff about with cheap ebay sh*te, if you truly understand what a proper purpose made controller really does then you'll also understand that these DIY efforts fall way short. We are after all talking less than £100, I can't for the life of me understand why people go to these lengths when you can have it all for under a tonne! ::)roll

lee_dewing

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Re: without Varistream
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2014, 02:38:54 pm »
Hi Chumbucket.

It's not a case of being mean I would like to have a backup system ready to go or temporary fix say for varistream.

It's good to know alternative ways of doing things and you could argue instead of money for a varistream you could have a spare pump instead.

Ian has employed and now franchised his business and uses these cheaper controllers with looks like little problem.

Tosh to has switched to these controllers for reasons of recalibration cold hot weather and found varistream frustrating to work with.

Another major problem with our equipment is you can't just pop to local shop and buy.
So spares are a must but if you can source cheap workable alternatives from maplins, machine mart, homebase to dig yourself out the poo then I'm all for that.
Might have repeated myself there, sorry.
Merry Christmas mate.
Lee.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Tom White

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2014, 04:30:27 pm »
Tosh.

Can I ask how your pump is wire to your battery and controller.

You have a shurflo pump a voltage regulator as displayed by Ian.

So red and black wire on pump as I have but you have the additional wire/wires on pressure switch how do these wire into your controller and battery?

Are you taking wire from pressure switch and joining to other say red wire at other end of pump then wire to controller?

Just trying to invision this, can't find anything on YouTube all in use with varistream.

My pump has no wiring on pressure switch but would like to setup as yours Tosh.

Thanks lee

Lee, you have two wires coming out of your shurflo; route one of these (it doesn't matter which) into the pressure switch (it doesn't matter which connection) with a spade connection.  Then attach a wire with a spade connection on the 'way out' (the other connection on the pressure switch).

This is your pressure switch connected back up.  All the pressure switch does is break the connection when the pressure has built up to the required psi.

Then wire as follows on the rear of the motor controller:



On the reverse side of the motor controller are some screws that hold down the wires; it's pretty self explanatory.

Keep your old pump controller box; you can just use that to put it in.

And as I say, it works all the time, every time, no exceptions.

(The above is my spare - at a fiver each - get a couple, but my two have been going great guns for over six months - with no problems at all).


Tom White

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2014, 04:32:58 pm »
if you truly understand what a proper purpose made controller really does then you'll also understand that these DIY efforts fall way short.

Apart from controlling my water flow, which they do perfectly, every time, all the time, what else do I want them to do?  Sing me a song?  Do a couple of juggling tricks?

They never give me any battery problems either and we run two pumps (two separate motor controllers) with these.

Soupy

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Re: without Varistream
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2014, 04:45:55 pm »
Just buy a new controller, my MKII digi' varistream has never missed a beat. However, I'll replace it with a spring analogue when it does.

Don't faff about with cheap ebay sh*te, if you truly understand what a proper purpose made controller really does then you'll also understand that these DIY efforts fall way short. We are after all talking less than £100, I can't for the life of me understand why people go to these lengths when you can have it all for under a tonne! ::)roll

Digital controllers are gash.

I had one that claimed to work as a split charge relay. I had a auto electrician look at it, he laughed. "No danger that thing can handle the current".

All the other crap that manufacturers tell you is an improvement is, in fact, utterly pointless. Control the flow. Control the pressure. That's all you need.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

ChumBucket

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2014, 04:47:34 pm »
if you truly understand what a proper purpose made controller really does then you'll also understand that these DIY efforts fall way short.

Apart from controlling my water flow, which they do perfectly, every time, all the time, what else do I want them to do?  Sing me a song?  Do a couple of juggling tricks?

They never give me any battery problems either and we run two pumps (two separate motor controllers) with these.

My point demonstrated to perfection!! ;D ::)roll

My MKI digital Varistream hasn't missed a beat in 6 years- the MKII is a different controller though & by all accounts quite troublesome- I've used one & don't like it at all. However, that doesn't mean that all other controllers are the same.

I'm not going to try knocking when there's no one in Tosh- yet again, and no doubt you'll hit the ban button, yet again. ::)roll


ChumBucket

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2014, 04:49:02 pm »
Just buy a new controller, my MKII digi' varistream has never missed a beat. However, I'll replace it with a spring analogue when it does.

Don't faff about with cheap ebay sh*te, if you truly understand what a proper purpose made controller really does then you'll also understand that these DIY efforts fall way short. We are after all talking less than £100, I can't for the life of me understand why people go to these lengths when you can have it all for under a tonne! ::)roll

Digital controllers are gash.

I had one that claimed to work as a split charge relay. I had a auto electrician look at it, he laughed. "No danger that thing can handle the current".

All the other crap that manufacturers tell you is an improvement is, in fact, utterly pointless. Control the flow. Control the pressure. That's all you need.

Yep, I agree, NEVER would I want a flow controller to work as a split charge relay also either!

Tom White

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2014, 04:50:34 pm »
No, Chummy, I didn't ban you, just made you sit on the naughty step for a while, and that was down to your swearing on the forum.  I think they'd just released you from the wibble ward and hadn't gotten your medication just right.

But you still haven't answered the question.

Tom White

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2014, 04:51:48 pm »
All the other crap that manufacturers tell you is an improvement is, in fact, utterly pointless. Control the flow. Control the pressure. That's all you need.

+1

ChumBucket

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #29 on: December 23, 2014, 04:52:53 pm »
No, Chummy, I didn't ban you, just made you sit on the naughty step for a while, and that was down to your swearing on the forum.  I think they'd just released you from the wibble ward and hadn't gotten your medication just right.

But you still haven't answered the question.

You banned me permanently for not agreeing with your justification of someone dealing drugs. ::)roll

Tom White

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2014, 04:56:39 pm »
No, Chummy, I didn't ban you, just made you sit on the naughty step for a while, and that was down to your swearing on the forum.  I think they'd just released you from the wibble ward and hadn't gotten your medication just right.

But you still haven't answered the question.

You banned me permanently for not agreeing with your justification of someone dealing drugs. ::)roll

If I banned everyone that disagreed with me, there'd probably just be me.  And you're obviously not banned permanently because you're posting here.

Why don't you try manning up and getting over it?

And you still haven't answered the question.

lee_dewing

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Re: without Varistream
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2014, 04:57:25 pm »
Tosh that's brilliant, thanks very much for post and pic, I have that exact controller you do been sitting in the bottom of my wardrobe ;D

Will now sort something out over the hole don't go back tip 5th jan.

Happy to now dismantle existing pump box and modify now.


Merry Christmas Tosh :)

Your worth more money ;)

Thanks everyone
Lee
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Tom White

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2014, 05:02:46 pm »
A good little tip is to get an inline switch, wilkos do them for about £2 and put that on. 



It means you just set the water flow the way you want it with the dial and then turn it on and off with the switch.  It basically means you don't have to turn a dial; I'm very lazy.


ChumBucket

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2014, 05:11:13 pm »
No, Chummy, I didn't ban you, just made you sit on the naughty step for a while, and that was down to your swearing on the forum.  I think they'd just released you from the wibble ward and hadn't gotten your medication just right.

But you still haven't answered the question.

You banned me permanently for not agreeing with your justification of someone dealing drugs. ::)roll

If I banned everyone that disagreed with me, there'd probably just be me.  And you're obviously not banned permanently because you're posting here.

Why don't you try manning up and getting over it?

And you still haven't answered the question.

You've had it answered countless times Tosh- you simply don't understand it & this clearly shows in all your posts regarding controllers. I ain't wasting any more time knocking. ;)

Tom White

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2014, 05:14:21 pm »

You've had it answered countless times Tosh- you simply don't understand it & this clearly shows in all your posts regarding controllers. I ain't wasting any more time knocking. ;)

Mate, just answer the question and stop trying to make it personal.  To be quite frank I don't understand your interest in me.  I'm above the age of legal consent.

ChumBucket

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2014, 05:15:58 pm »

You've had it answered countless times Tosh- you simply don't understand it & this clearly shows in all your posts regarding controllers. I ain't wasting any more time knocking. ;)

Mate, just answer the question and stop trying to make it personal.  To be quite frank I don't understand your interest in me.  I'm above the age of legal consent.

I have zero interest in you, nothing personal at all- don't flatter yourself, I just think you're a bit thick... but that's where it ends. ;D

Tom White

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2014, 05:20:46 pm »

You've had it answered countless times Tosh- you simply don't understand it & this clearly shows in all your posts regarding controllers. I ain't wasting any more time knocking. ;)

Mate, just answer the question and stop trying to make it personal.  To be quite frank I don't understand your interest in me.  I'm above the age of legal consent.



Window Lickers

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Re: without Varistream
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2014, 05:21:42 pm »
ChumBucket who were you before you were banned?
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

lee_dewing

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Re: without Varistream
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2014, 05:33:25 pm »
Thanks Tosh for switch link.

Might be able to salvage one on my pump box that Doug put on outside.
Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work.     - Aristotle

Tom White

Re: without Varistream
« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2014, 05:45:56 pm »
No problems, Lee.  It's not often that something so cheap far exceeds expectations, but this does.