CleanerCarpets

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2014, 06:41:29 pm »
how does the auto pump out work on the Airflex Storm? could it be fitted to the Airflex Turbo?

Radek Jablonski

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2014, 06:59:17 pm »
There is no pump out.
Just a gravity valve. When the machine works valve closes, when stops then is opening and the waste tank is emptying.
Van mounting makes sense only when fresh water and waste water tanks are fitted as well. 
When i swith off the storm then is emptying itself through that waste water pipe with the valve on the end.

stuart_clark

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2014, 08:19:11 pm »
I dont see the point of van mounting a porty, if you want to go down that route buy yourself a proper Truck mount !


Russ Chadd

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2014, 08:28:50 pm »
Russ it doesnt make sense to take it off the van ! I used to have the prowler and have the storm set up exactly the same feeding from a 400 litre water tank and it has the bonus of remote control so no need to go out to the van when needing to stop to change tools or to empty the water tank.

If the enforcer is as powerful as the storm there should be no reason why that calnt be set up the same way.

I have ninja machines as back up but would certainly not go back to lugging the machine off the van and filling buckets on every job.

Each to their own... van mounting means carrying more water, more hoses using more room up in the van and longer electrical cables... Plus the longer hoses WILL have an effect on performance especially over 100'
The easy load design of the enforcer allows me to load and unload real quick, if I need direct water feed I just use the customers garden hose.
I never use more than 75' of hose... Having the machine near also allows me to monitor foam build up in the waste tank.


CleanerCarpets

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2014, 08:40:17 pm »
can i get the valve for the Turbo?

when i called Cleansmart a few months ago they said drain out wasnt compatible with the Turbo but i cant see why when the casing is the same

Radek Jablonski

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2014, 08:55:55 pm »
Russ, in not many situation you will use more then 75' of hose or even less when more then 100.
I am using usually 50-75' of hose, very somethimes 100.
And van mounted does not mean you can not off load it.
It is just much faster work, more convinience to customer. All i do in their kitchen is to get few liters of warm water. No noise in their house and much more...
I am sicking when i need to remove the machine and need to employ the buckets.
Usually when you need to run more then 100' then the site is just not suitable for truck mount.

Paul Dunkley

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2014, 08:54:05 pm »
What watertank do you have and have you set a pump from van electrics where did you get the setup sounds interesting

JandS

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2014, 10:00:07 am »
With Russ on this one....can't see point in van mounted...just about every disadvantage there is in it.
Last job yesterday would have needed 30 foot just to reach door...extension cable running out....extra distance to turn on and off.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Radek Jablonski

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2014, 10:07:53 am »
Jands, with a short cable there is a problem :)
Distance to turn off and on does not exist with storm and his remote.
It is all about organising yourself.

stuart_clark

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2014, 10:26:06 am »
You can have a remote with any machine ! It aint rocket science
you can buy plug in remotes from B&Q for 9.99

JandS

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2014, 01:02:19 pm »
Your extending your hose run so decreasing your vac power.
Your clogging your van up with waste and water tanks.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Radek Jablonski

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2014, 04:59:41 pm »
Your extending your hose run so decreasing your vac power.
Your clogging your van up with waste and water tanks.

Stop repeating the bs that tms are saying.

JandS

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2014, 05:07:31 pm »
It's not bs it's the truth.....you are clogging up the van with tanks...fact.
You are reducing your vac efficiency by increasing your hose runs...fact.
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Radek Jablonski

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2014, 05:35:49 pm »
It's not bs it's the truth.....you are clogging up the van with tanks...fact.
You are reducing your vac efficiency by increasing your hose runs...fact.

Do.not mean the fact
Simply saying to the above - SO WHAT?
Water tanks in the van makes me more efficient, machine mounted more efficient again.
A bit less vacum? Be real! What difference in your cleaning does it make? Nearly nothing.
Last week had to remove the machine to do few offices in the city. 4,5 hrs job which i could do in max 2.5hrs when van mounted. Nobody will tell me that there is anything wrong mounting your machine.

JandS

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2014, 09:00:28 pm »
How can you knock 2 hours off a job just because your van mounted??????
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Radek Jablonski

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2014, 09:11:05 pm »
How can you knock 2 hours off a job just because your van mounted??????
Just try :)

But seriously, no access to water close to the machine.
Normally i would say at least 1.5 hrs faster it could be if no problem with water. Unloading the stuff, filling and emptying, packing stuff, mostly hoses with no reels, it all takes time.

stuart_clark

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2014, 09:39:35 pm »
Radek

you do what you wantwith your porty mate, me I cant see the point in having it truck mounted ! If I was looking to clean that way I would have a petrol truck mount, but after nearly twenty five years of using portys I find it hard to change


Stuart

Radek Jablonski

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2014, 09:58:17 pm »
Stuart, if i will have too much work that will not be able to do inside 6-8hrs day work then i would get tm.

stuart_clark

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Re: storm v enfircer
« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2014, 10:18:07 pm »
Radek

you are dead right mate, get the work then the equipment ! You should start another topic purely with that headline ! Lol