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My window cleaner
« on: April 07, 2018, 10:07:02 am »
Just seen the marketing for this offering franchise oppurtunity  they are going to shake up the  market with their bespoke  software and app .
Looks  like the parent company is doing well 4.5 k customers and 300 k in company account they are London and Hertfordshire based.
Spit and polish

p1w1

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2018, 10:29:17 am »
How exactly are they going to shake up the market then?

Marc Stock

Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2018, 11:06:29 am »
Their prices are very cheap. The concept though is very good.

People want a reliable window cleaner that will come and clean thr windows when they say they will, and not when they feel like it.

Like another member stated on here recently, THE BIGGEST complaint from window cleaners work, is tardiness.

NWH

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2018, 11:31:33 am »
I see you have emphasised the word cheap well there’s your answer,I am not cheap I don’t do cheap jobs they are priced well I have what I consider to be a high minimum price. If someone has a flat with a couple of windows I still charge 15 and that would only be if I had 3-4 flats to clean while I was there that is the absolute minimum I’d charge,so many window cleaners out there flat out busy earning far less than they should be. Like my Mrs says it’s the quality not the quantity lol

Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2018, 11:39:39 am »
Lol

p1w1

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2018, 11:41:47 am »
i wouldn't say the prices are very cheap those are front only prices there listing. What would you charge for the detached front then Marc?

bobplum

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2018, 12:05:47 pm »
I thought OSHA were going to shake up the market !!

Marc Stock

Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2018, 12:16:22 pm »
i wouldn't say the prices are very cheap those are front only prices there listing. What would you charge for the detached front then Marc?

My minimum price is now £25. So if i was asked to do a front only, it would fall into that price bracket.

Walter Mitty

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2018, 02:05:24 pm »
Tardiness is the main issue, is it?

This one makes me laugh really.  In order to keep prices reasonable, it's better practice to have a full workload Spring to Autumn, and allow the gaps between cleans to grow longer in Winter.  There's little choice really with shorter daylight hours and down time for freeze ups.
The alternative is to make totally sure you can be on time in Winter, which would mean being very short of work from Spring to Autumn.
Apparently, the first scenario is called 'turning up when you feel like it.'
I once had a customer who complained that the gaps between my visits were too long.  He also used to want me to do extra jobs (with no notice) and even wanted me to de-moss his roof (I wouldn't do that).  Eventually, he sacked me (it was a relief).  Not before I pointed out that if even ten per cent of the customers wanted extra work done (as I did for him), the gaps between cleans would be even longer.  I knew I was staying sacked and was fine with that, but he did concede my point.

paul alan

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2018, 06:54:10 pm »
Looks like their prices are for glass only, frames done once per year.

They are expensive for that.

How do you clean glass only? With windows stacked upon each other surely you would have to clean some frame work?

tlwcs

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2018, 07:08:09 pm »
Love the fact our debs couldn't find a reliable windy so she thinks everyone else can't.
Maybe, just maybe she's a messer and all the reliable windys have dropped her. 😁
One review said the cleaner had missed out a window. How hard is it, bleeding idiots.

Shrek

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2018, 07:23:46 pm »
Looks like their prices are for glass only, frames done once per year.

They are expensive for that.

How do you clean glass only? With windows stacked upon each other surely you would have to clean some frame work?

£6 for a terraced house in Enfield- is that not cheap? Lol

G Griffin

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2018, 07:36:29 pm »
Like another member stated on here recently, THE BIGGEST complaint from window cleaners work, is tardiness.
From or about window cleaners?
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G Griffin

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2018, 07:39:20 pm »
i wouldn't say the prices are very cheap those are front only prices there listing. What would you charge for the detached front then Marc?

My minimum price is now £25. So if i was asked to do a front only, it would fall into that price bracket.
How is that a price bracket? Brackets usually have an opening and closing and that is an exact number.
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G Griffin

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2018, 07:39:40 pm »
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Bungle

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2018, 08:17:31 pm »
i wouldn't say the prices are very cheap those are front only prices there listing. What would you charge for the detached front then Marc?

My minimum price is now £25. So if i was asked to do a front only, it would fall into that price bracket.

£25 minimum 😂 Good luck filling your 3 days a week you have spare 👍
We look at them, they look through them.

Shrek

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2018, 08:23:17 pm »
i wouldn't say the prices are very cheap those are front only prices there listing. What would you charge for the detached front then Marc?

My minimum price is now £25. So if i was asked to do a front only, it would fall into that price bracket.

£25 minimum 😂 Good luck filling your 3 days a week you have spare 👍

I don’t think he needs luck , he’s already doing it 👍

Marc Stock

Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2018, 11:06:20 pm »
As of 2018. My starting rate is £25. So it doesn't matter if its a small window, a front part of a house or whatever. £25 is my bottom line. It helps to screen out the jobs that simply wont get me to my target. Last year my min price was £22 and worked very well.

But i am fair, so for example if someone wanted just the fronts done bi monthly, on a 3 bed semi and i quoted £25 for that; for the extra £5 they can have the rest of the house cleaned and they generally agree to having it done, if that becomes hard to stomach; I also include a quarterly option on the quote slip so a £30 house on bi monthly would be £38 on quarterly a saving of £28 a year.  I nearly always get a sign up, explain the next clean date and clarify they must leave access on the due date etc.



Tom-01

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2018, 11:26:03 pm »
i wouldn't say the prices are very cheap those are front only prices there listing. What would you charge for the detached front then Marc?

My minimum price is now £25. So if i was asked to do a front only, it would fall into that price bracket.

£25 minimum 😂 Good luck filling your 3 days a week you have spare 👍

Bumgle he only needs to clean one house to your three.

Bungle

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2018, 12:17:08 am »
Hi Tom xx
We look at them, they look through them.

Tom-01

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2018, 07:45:33 am »
Hi Tom xx

Hi Bumgle.

Are you still crying over the nasty fireman? And now stressed out because someone can earn more than you cleaning one house to your three?

Maybe it's time to look for another job. I hear Warwick Castle have a position open for a jester to greet people at the gates.



John Mart

Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2018, 07:49:44 am »
Hi Tom xx

Hi Bumgle.

Are you still crying over the nasty fireman? And now stressed out because someone can earn more than you cleaning one house to your three?

Maybe it's time to look for another job. I hear Warwick Castle have a position open for a jester to greet people at the gates.

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nathankaye

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2018, 09:52:49 am »
Price debates are pointless on here as there would be no chance of a £25min charge in Doncaster. However saying that, he could in certain areas and so it could be possible but at the cost of quantity. So again no chance of reaching is yearly figure.
However, obviously in the areas where marc is working it is extremely possible.
Yet I think the morale being is to set the very best price you can on every job and/or be daring on your prices.

Im thinking of changing my min charge to £12. Having a min charge certainly helps, it has for me and my marketing. Some areas now have stopped enquiring (council estates usually) as they know Im not going to be as cheap as ones targeting those areas.
Ones who can afford to dispose of that income per month contact me and town houses have a minimum of £20 for their average 3 bed semi.

I was speaking to a chap the other day who asked whats happening to window cleaning prices, as he felt £5 was a good going rate per house.     I told him that the days of window cleaners being just for beer money or cash on the side are fading quickly. Window cleaners sre investing in modern equipment and have more overheads now and focusing on making cleaning windows a business and as such prices are starting to reflect that.
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Marc Stock

Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2018, 09:57:33 am »
Good post Nathan.

Shrek

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2018, 10:22:21 am »
Good post mr k  & I would say definitely put your minimum up, if you’ve got enough work then why take on another £10 house? I took on a small semi on the edge of a council estate last week for £13 once a month , they were over the moon . Then someone else on there contacted me asking if I could beat their quote they’ve had for £7 😂 , I messaged them back saying £13 once a month , £18 every 2 months or £24 every 3 months. Obviously they declined, but it doesn’t bother me as I’m after a very small amount of work per month with high prices.
Keep pushing the boundaries and you won’t regret it

dazmond

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2018, 01:04:25 pm »
Tardiness is the main issue, is it?

This one makes me laugh really.  In order to keep prices reasonable, it's better practice to have a full workload Spring to Autumn, and allow the gaps between cleans to grow longer in Winter.  There's little choice really with shorter daylight hours and down time for freeze ups.
The alternative is to make totally sure you can be on time in Winter, which would mean being very short of work from Spring to Autumn.
Apparently, the first scenario is called 'turning up when you feel like it.'
I once had a customer who complained that the gaps between my visits were too long.  He also used to want me to do extra jobs (with no notice) and even wanted me to de-moss his roof (I wouldn't do that).  Eventually, he sacked me (it was a relief).  Not before I pointed out that if even ten per cent of the customers wanted extra work done (as I did for him), the gaps between cleans would be even longer.  I knew I was staying sacked and was fine with that, but he did concede my point.

I disagree Paul......

IMO you should have enough work to do the same work all year round.i mean who works on after 330pm-4pm anyway?whether it's summer or winter?

The only difference for me is I usually have more add on jobs to squeeze in during spring/summer....

As for punctuality I'm very rarely late.if I am it's usually only a week and most customers don't care or notice....
price higher/work harder!

Shrek

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2018, 01:10:34 pm »
Tardiness is the main issue, is it?

This one makes me laugh really.  In order to keep prices reasonable, it's better practice to have a full workload Spring to Autumn, and allow the gaps between cleans to grow longer in Winter.  There's little choice really with shorter daylight hours and down time for freeze ups.
The alternative is to make totally sure you can be on time in Winter, which would mean being very short of work from Spring to Autumn.
Apparently, the first scenario is called 'turning up when you feel like it.'
I once had a customer who complained that the gaps between my visits were too long.  He also used to want me to do extra jobs (with no notice) and even wanted me to de-moss his roof (I wouldn't do that).  Eventually, he sacked me (it was a relief).  Not before I pointed out that if even ten per cent of the customers wanted extra work done (as I did for him), the gaps between cleans would be even longer.  I knew I was staying sacked and was fine with that, but he did concede my point.

I disagree Paul......

IMO you should have enough work to do the same work all year round.i mean who works on after 330pm-4pm anyway?whether it's summer or winter?

The only difference for me is I usually have more add on jobs to squeeze in during spring/summer....

As for punctuality I'm very rarely late.if I am it's usually only a week and most customers don't care or notice....

That’s what I was thinking, if you’ve got 300 jobs a month , it won’t change that much throughout the year depending on the season  ???
Unless you’ve got your books full of ‘leave it til spring’ customers

dazmond

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2018, 01:12:47 pm »
My earnings hardly change summer or winter.they remain the same apart from slightly increased earnings in the warmer months due to extra one off add on work...
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

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Re: My window cleaner
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2018, 06:37:30 pm »
Tardiness is the main issue, is it?

This one makes me laugh really.  In order to keep prices reasonable, it's better practice to have a full workload Spring to Autumn, and allow the gaps between cleans to grow longer in Winter.  There's little choice really with shorter daylight hours and down time for freeze ups.
The alternative is to make totally sure you can be on time in Winter, which would mean being very short of work from Spring to Autumn.
Apparently, the first scenario is called 'turning up when you feel like it.'
I once had a customer who complained that the gaps between my visits were too long.  He also used to want me to do extra jobs (with no notice) and even wanted me to de-moss his roof (I wouldn't do that).  Eventually, he sacked me (it was a relief).  Not before I pointed out that if even ten per cent of the customers wanted extra work done (as I did for him), the gaps between cleans would be even longer.  I knew I was staying sacked and was fine with that, but he did concede my point.

I disagree Paul......

IMO you should have enough work to do the same work all year round.i mean who works on after 330pm-4pm anyway?whether it's summer or winter?

The only difference for me is I usually have more add on jobs to squeeze in during spring/summer....

As for punctuality I'm very rarely late.if I am it's usually only a week and most customers don't care or notice....

Im with dazmond on this as well. 
I know many might stay out in summer months with it being lighter till later. But they will struggle come winter darker nights. Thats why I knock off between half three n four pm in summer, so come winter my normal routine is not disturbed too much.
Yet another factor is working through the rain, even if its half days so that your routine again doesnt get disrupted
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