posty10

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Saftey flooring
« on: March 04, 2013, 10:20:37 pm »

Hi
I am looking for a chemical to clean a saftey flooring in a factory canteen and it realy bad.
I need something really strong any idear please

cheers

Mike

Griffus

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 10:53:59 pm »
If it's Altro they do their own heavy duty stuff: -

http://www.altro.co.uk/Accessories/Flooring/Cleaners-Dressings/AltroClean-en.aspx

Ultrapac Renovate also good for this.

Always be mindful that you may have to document your process and chemicals used. Long term liability is always a major consideration when cleaning floors, so stick within manufacturers guidelines.

Jamie Pearson

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2013, 06:12:42 pm »

posty10

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2013, 09:01:41 pm »
Hi

Thank you for the info i will have a look

once again cheer

Mike

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2013, 03:21:24 pm »
Hi Mike,

Please click on the link below to see the safest and most effective cleaning solution for anti slip floors available on the market today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSUnslNGWAo&list=UUWmS4P-1eViUCwdWe4XCdvw&index=7

Jason Smith

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2013, 06:12:34 pm »
These links are of a anti-slip porcelain floor (wood effect) which has a rough tectured finish being professionally cleaned, this client had used numerous companies and chemicals that didn't work. We used our own product "Extreme Clean" which as you can see brings the floor up like brand new, extended dwell time is recomended for heavily soiled floors.

http://youtu.be/6kIxjuDkbc8

http://youtu.be/tce7DRxz1mI

Jason Smith - Business Manager

SteveAllan

Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2013, 07:40:31 pm »
Hi Mike,

Please click on the link below to see the safest and most effective cleaning solution for anti slip floors available on the market today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSUnslNGWAo&list=UUWmS4P-1eViUCwdWe4XCdvw&index=7

Blimey did not know it was that easy, spent all that dosh on a rocky and wet vac when I just needed a microfibre mop ;)

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2013, 08:01:57 pm »
Hi Jason, i was looking at the SDS for extreme clean and saw that the ph value is between 11 to 12 on the scale
I have seen so many anti slip safety floors being damaged beyond repair from cleaning with high alkaline based floor cleaners, that is why i recommended to mike to use a heavy duty degreaser based on micelles technology which has a ph value of 8.7  non-caustic,non-corrosive,non-toxic, so will not cause any detrimental damage to anti-slip safety floors. one of the biggest problems contractors come across is how to deep clean safety floors. the video i uploaded has been very well received by contractors all over Europe and they are delighted to have a solution that dose not cause the yellow burning which was happening when they were using high alkaline based cleaners and strippers in the past.
Its a known fact that this yellow staining on safety floors is attributed to continuous use of cleaning with high alkaline based floor cleaners and strippers, once this yellow staining (chemical burning)  appears on the safety floor there is no solution to right the problem, hope that this information can be of benefit to you Jason.

sherco

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2013, 08:22:17 pm »
Have a look at www.bonasystems.com
Natural stone floor restoration service.
Natural stone fixing and repairs.
www.poshstonefloors.co.uk

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2013, 08:23:21 pm »
Hi Steve, Just to confirm the deep cleaning was done with a microcleaning mop pad which is 30 times more effective than the waffle microfiber floor cloth which we recommend for maintaining anti-slip safety floors, hope this helps Steve.

Jason Smith

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2013, 09:11:53 pm »
Hi Jason, i was looking at the SDS for extreme clean and saw that the ph value is between 11 to 12 on the scale
I have seen so many anti slip safety floors being damaged beyond repair from cleaning with high alkaline based floor cleaners, that is why i recommended to mike to use a heavy duty degreaser based on micelles technology which has a ph value of 8.7  non-caustic,non-corrosive,non-toxic, so will not cause any detrimental damage to anti-slip safety floors. one of the biggest problems contractors come across is how to deep clean safety floors. the video i uploaded has been very well received by contractors all over Europe and they are delighted to have a solution that dose not cause the yellow burning which was happening when they were using high alkaline based cleaners and strippers in the past.
Its a known fact that this yellow staining on safety floors is attributed to continuous use of cleaning with high alkaline based floor cleaners and strippers, once this yellow staining (chemical burning)  appears on the safety floor there is no solution to right the problem, hope that this information can be of benefit to you Jason.
Yes you are correct Tadgh, but it's not just about the pH value, as not all high alkaline cleaners will bleach or burn sensitive surfaces, I believe the problem can be caused by ingredients such as sodium metasilicate which we have just recently removed from our product.

Informative post and great video, thanks.

I looked for your product MSDS and couldn't find it, is this product a blend of citrus oils due to the 8-9 pH level as they work very well as degreasers?
Jason Smith - Business Manager

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2013, 09:57:34 pm »
Hi Jason, Bio-Kleen is based on colloidal chemistry one of this centuries most promising advances in environmental science, derived from potatoes,grains,soybean,corn, making it safe to use on any surface that is washable with water.   
I did use high alkaline based cleaners for years Jason but just got fed up with the damage they were causing to surfaces especially to vehicle surfaces. many years ago we went searching for safe to use cleaning solutions and we came across colloidal micelles technology on a trip to the states. I can genuinely say that we have never looked back and are delighted to see other companies now are promoting micelles technology as well,regards Tadgh.j

Jason Smith

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2013, 10:07:36 pm »
Great to hear your research and hard work is paying off Tadgh, always interested in new technology, we also strive for new innovation.

I genuinely wish you every success with it...

Jason Smith - Business Manager

Kev Martin

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2013, 10:23:43 pm »
Hi Jason, Bio-Kleen is based on colloidal chemistry one of this centuries most promising advances in environmental science, derived from potatoes,grains,soybean,corn, making it safe to use on any surface that is washable with water.   
I did use high alkaline based cleaners for years Jason but just got fed up with the damage they were causing to surfaces especially to vehicle surfaces. many years ago we went searching for safe to use cleaning solutions and we came across colloidal micelles technology on a trip to the states. I can genuinely say that we have never looked back and are delighted to see other companies now are promoting micelles technology as well,regards Tadgh.j

Tadgh

With all due respect the concept has been around a long time.  I agree it works very well in conjunction with the help of the type of cloths used.  However as Jason has said and I rarely agree with him a lot depends the pH of the Cleaner and It's other constituents not all alkalines are the same and certainly not all High Alkalines do damage especially if they are rinsed correctly.  In addition the technology you state you use also relies on a level of alkaline to work. I also imagine because of this it still needs to be rinsed.  Incidentally I use the same technology in my Honing Powder.

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tilingogistics
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Tadgh O Shea

Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2013, 10:35:59 pm »
Hi Kevin, like i said we are delighted to see that you and other companies are now promoting the technology as well.
When you combine the power of microcleaning pad technology and micelles cleaning technology for deep cleaning surfaces there is nothing else which will match the result thats achieved, thats speaking from being in the cleaning industry over 30 years, i am always open and receptive to any new safe to use cleaning technology and if anyone has any other safe to use cleaning concepts i would be delighted to hear from them.

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2013, 10:47:21 pm »
Hi Kevin, again yes you are right the concept has been around for a number of years, i actually developed the concept of using melamine pads  for use with Numatics multi-mop in 2005, you can ask Chris who is the owner of Numatic in the UK.

Regards

Tadgh

Phil @ Extreme Clean

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2013, 01:20:45 pm »
Tadgh

I cleaned a pub toilet floor with years of ingrained soils in the tiles and the grout, i used aquamix HDT+G and 220 honing powder with rotary brush and wet vac the pics are on ciu take a look.

Personally and quote me if i'm wrong but it took some work to get these clean i can't see how going from your video i could get the same result.

Best regards Phil.
Extreme Clean
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Tadgh O Shea

Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2013, 09:18:45 pm »
Hi Phil, had a look at the pictures you posted simple enough problem to solve.
I would pre spray the tiles and grout lines with Bio-Kleen heavy duty degreaser diluted at 5-1 for deep cleaning, then let the solution dwell for 2 to 3 minutes, first scrub in between the grout lines with a grout cleaning brush to loosen all the ingrained and impacted soils, then when all the grout lines have been scrubbed proceed to scrub the tiles with a microcleaning mop pad, these wonder pads will deep clean the tile surface while at the same time absorb all the loosened soils you dislodged with the grout cleaning brush.
Finally use damp waffle microfiber floor cloths to flat mop the floor to achieve a streak free finish, Judging by the photos Phil i woud think your customer was using traditional cotton mops on a daily basis to clean the floor and that is why there was such a build up of soils in the grout lines. You see Phil the fibers in cotton mops are round and thats all they are capable of is pushing the soils around the floor, so when the moisture evaporates a light film of soil will dry back on the surface of the tile and into the ground lines, this problem is compounded on a daily basis as each time the floor is mopped with a cotton mop there is another light film of soil going to dry back on the tile and into the grout lines, the proof Phil is in your picture as the grout lines have filled up and over from daily mopping with the cotton mops (one of the most useless tools used within the cleaning industry) and you can see quite rightly Phil why they fit perfectly into the CFU category of tools used within our industry.
Recommend your customer to make the change from traditional cotton mops to waffle microfiber floor cloths they will save them alot of money as they are extremely durable and can be laundered up to 500 times.

Kind regards

Tadgh

Andrew Briscoe

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2013, 09:55:03 pm »
Tadgh are your jsk multi mops same as the ones solutions sell
http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/microfibre-range.html

I have used these, although I thought they did a good job, I found they didnt last very long, and had problems with them staying on the multi mop head.

Regards

Andrew

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2013, 10:56:48 pm »
Hi Andrew, yes our microcleaning mop pads are the same (melamine pads) just make sure you get the ones with a brushed nylon backing which are more compatible for use with Numatics multi-mop, in the past we used to sell the microcleaning mop pads that had a fiber backing simiilar to green scouring pads and as you rightly say Andrew they were causing problems in adhering to the multi-mop frame.
As regards to wearing down quickly it depends on how rough the floor type you are cleaning is. in their nature melamine mop pads are sacrificial and will sacrifice themselves or erase themselves, thats why they are also called (eraser pads) but again Andrew they are only recommended for deep cleaning floors, the trick is to maintain floors with waffle microfiber floor cloths and safe to use cleaning solutions, then there should be no need to have to use microcleaning mop pads.

Kind regards

Tadgh

Andrew Briscoe

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2013, 12:01:51 am »
I will have to give them another try.
It is difficult to balance quality products and equipment and cost effective pricing in the contract cleaning market, there arnt a lot of new customers around at present due to the recession. We are sitting tight at the moment and concentrating on looking after the quality clients we have at this time.

Andrew

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2013, 07:57:16 am »
Hi Andrew, No problem yes i hear things are tight at the moment, give me a call sometime and i can share some interesting ideas that can help you develop new business.

Regards

Tadgh

John Kelly

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Re: Saftey flooring
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2013, 04:52:25 pm »
Spray with Colloidal cleaner, scrub with rotary and scrub brush, vac off job done. Quickly and easily.