[Tosh]

Okay, this is Basingstoke, and I've been asked by a friend for a price for the conservatory in the picture. Insides and out, the lot, including roof inside.

I asked her to send me over a few pictures even though recently Ive erred on the side of caution when it comes to working for friends, so I put in a regular price of £220.00 for this.

Anyway, I didn't get it, based on the price, some conservatory cleaning company that hasn't even looked at it have given her a price for insides and outs, a separate price for insides and a separate price for outsides only. What do you reckon are those prices?

[8weekly]

Okay, this is Basingstoke, and I've been asked by a friend for a price for the conservatory in the picture. Insides and out, the lot, including roof inside.

I asked her to send me over a few pictures even though recently Ive erred on the side of caution when it comes to working for friends, so I put in a regular price of £220.00 for this.

Anyway, I didn't get it, based on the price, some conservatory cleaning company that hasn't even looked at it have given her a price for insides and outs, a separate price for insides and a separate price for outsides only. What do you reckon are those prices?

If it's a company that JUSTS cleans conservatories it will be expensive I assume. £300 outside & £200 inside.

[SeanK]

Well as its a friend then I assume your price would have been slightly lower than usual and the fact you didn't get it
means somebody is doing it for peanuts, so I would guess £100 for the lot.

[Shane sharples]

£160 the lot

[Tosh]

£105.00.  Is what they have said for everything, including inside roof. Just insides would be £80.00 whilst all the outsides would be £50.00.

Crazy money.

I would normally visit the property to price a conservatory and probably look to secure it at something like £220-£250.00

[Smurf]

You get what you pay for as they say and I suspect your friend will figure that one out soon enough.

I would have also mentioned the roof is self cleaning glass too. Good init 

[Tosh]

Yup. I really couldn't be arsed trying to explain it all away, I just said 'okay, you'll be going with that one then'. She should've tried Thomas Sanderson

[8weekly]

£105.00.  Is what they have said for everything, including inside roof. Just insides would be £80.00 whilst all the outsides would be £50.00.

Crazy money.

I would normally visit the property to price a conservatory and probably look to secure it at something like £220-£250.00

My friend had hers done in and out by someone who works for a conservatory cleaning company for £70. Apparently he uses a machine. I wasn't sufficiently interested to enquire further.

[Shane sharples]

Wow that's cheap , I don't know how anybody can be arsed sweating their b******s off for that. 

[cgh window cleaning]

There are some very desperate window cleaners about at the minute a bloke round by me is pushing inside roof cleans and is doing in and out and windows for around £100-£110.He was telling me he did one this week roof in and out gutters,fascias,soffits and window for £160 
Had one Friday try to undercut me on a restaurant offering to do it for half my price.
some really are happy to work for peanuts.

[sunshine windows]

Wouldn't touch that in&out for less than £500

[Bungle]

Wouldn't touch that in&out for less than £500

And how many people take you up on your no less than £500 

Sheesh.

[sunshine windows]

I don't do hardly any internal roofs but plenty of £250+ externals hence no less than £500 

[Smurf]

I don't do hardly any internal roofs but plenty of £250+ externals hence no less than £500 

I take it you hate doing them too 

[richard groves]

Am I looking at the right picture 
That's  a two hour job if they move all the crap out the way, 3 hours if you happen to be a slacker. Still even then, £150 tops.

[Smurf]

What has how long it takes got to do with the price?
As we are talking an inside and outside deep clean (full conservatory valet) surely you would want to charge a wee bit more that 150 

[dazmond]

Am I looking at the right picture 
That's  a two hour job if they move all the crap out the way, 3 hours if you happen to be a slacker. Still even then, £150 tops.

no its not.thats  4 hours work if you want to do a good job including setting up and packing away INSIDE AND OUT.i want to earn £50-£60 an hour on add ons so £200-£250 is about right IMO.

[chris turner]

It amazes how some you make out that it's such a big job, full valet, back breaking labour..... Just to justify charging ridiculous prices.

Let's put it in to perspective, that conservatory is not that big, from the pictures it is not that dirty.
I would do the lot in approx 3 1/2 hours and happily take £170 for it and most likely get repeat custom. Yes Papa smurf that's a full valet, I.e iv cleaned the sh!t out of it.
Smurf do you go all Thomas Sanderson on it, hand polishing all the whites? Greasing up hinges? Cleaning all the openers? Treating the glass?
Didn't think so, you clean it no differently to anyone else here...

[chris turner]

Wouldn't touch that in&out for less than £500

This is just even more laughable. You must be royalty.

[richard groves]

Am I looking at the right picture 
That's  a two hour job if they move all the crap out the way, 3 hours if you happen to be a slacker. Still even then, £150 tops.

no its not.thats  4 hours work if you want to do a good job including setting up and packing away INSIDE AND OUT.i want to earn £50-£60 an hour on add ons so £200-£250 is about right IMO.

4 hours you gotta be kidding me ! and you've been in this game a long time.
Yes £50 an hour, so that's why I said £150.

[Dave Willis]

It's a highly skilled job operating a duster.

[andyM]

Wouldn't touch that in&out for less than £500

I'm giving you TWO rolly eyes for that one! 

[dazmond]

It amazes how some you make out that it's such a big job, full valet, back breaking labour..... Just to justify charging ridiculous prices.

Let's put it in to perspective, that conservatory is not that big, from the pictures it is not that dirty.
I would do the lot in approx 3 1/2 hours and happily take £170 for it and most likely get repeat custom. Yes Papa smurf that's a full valet, I.e iv cleaned the sh!t out of it.
Smurf do you go all Thomas Sanderson on it, hand polishing all the whites? Greasing up hinges? Cleaning all the openers? Treating the glass?
Didn't think so, you clean it no differently to anyone else here...

there still a PITA though and harder work than regular window cleaning and take you away from your regular jobs.i dont want them unless i can earn £50-£60 an hour.

[Dave Willis]

You have to consider the overheads - you could go through a set of Marigolds on that one maybe half a can of Pledge - never undersell yourself.
£500 would be my minimum charge. I do two of them a day.



anyone know the cheapest place for Virosol?

[sunshine windows]

This is just even more laughable. You must be royalty.

It is a bit of a joke, considering Thomas Sanderson or Fargils would charge around £1000 for a decent sized one.

We must be undercutting Cowboys, yeeeeha! 

[Bungle]

I don't do hardly any internal roofs but plenty of £250+ externals hence no less than £500 

More like you ain't got a clue how to clean internal, hence the high price so they don't ask you to do it 

[chris turner]

You have to consider the overheads - you could go through a set of Marigolds on that one maybe half a can of Pledge - never undersell yourself.
£500 would be my minimum charge. I do two of them a day.



anyone know the cheapest place for Virosol?

 

[chris turner]

It amazes how some you make out that it's such a big job, full valet, back breaking labour..... Just to justify charging ridiculous prices.

Let's put it in to perspective, that conservatory is not that big, from the pictures it is not that dirty.
I would do the lot in approx 3 1/2 hours and happily take £170 for it and most likely get repeat custom. Yes Papa smurf that's a full valet, I.e iv cleaned the sh!t out of it.
Smurf do you go all Thomas Sanderson on it, hand polishing all the whites? Greasing up hinges? Cleaning all the openers? Treating the glass?
Didn't think so, you clean it no differently to anyone else here...

there still a PITA though and harder work than regular window cleaning and take you away from your regular jobs.i dont want them unless i can earn £50-£60 an hour.

They can be a pita to clean but there are advantages to normal work.
Your at one job for a few hours so less fuel expense.
It's one big payment to collect rather then drips and drabs.
Personally I get much more job satisfaction bringing a conservatory back to life then general window cleaning.

[SeanK]

No problem charging £500 for that job, but then I would be cleaning it with my water fed toothbrush which does
add a bit of time to the job, I would also add a chemical to the glass which repels dirt, kids, birds, insects and snails for fives years.

[richard groves]

15 mins set up/pack away
30 mins outside roof
15 mins outside windows
45 mins inside roof
15 mins inside windows

2 hours

[Smurf]

I do chuckle at "How much" threads as they mostly end up with people disagreeing on price and how long they think a job is going to take.

There is no right or wrong price for any job as long as the cleaner is happy what they get out of it for the time and effort they put into it. It’s as simple as that really.

However I will say from my own experience that selling on price alone is dead easy but to win work at a premium price no matter what the job is takes confidence and skill.

[Smurf]

15 mins set up/pack away
30 mins outside roof
15 mins outside windows
45 mins inside roof
15 mins inside windows

2 hours

Barry, If you don't mind me asking have you done many filthy inside and out conservatory deep cleans before? 

[Tosh]

45 minutes

There's "cleaning" and there's "I'd knock that out".

[richard groves]

15 mins set up/pack away
30 mins outside roof
15 mins outside windows
45 mins inside roof
15 mins inside windows

2 hours

Barry, If you don't mind me asking have you done many  filthy inside and out conservatory deep cleans before ?

Yes and a job like that would take me most the day.
I'm going on the picture at the top of the thread.
It has good access, not big, not really filthy, all upvc in good order and not requiring a "deep clean" as you put it, hence my estimate and costing.

[Smurf]

I've found out from experiance when I say "deep clean" it's just a term used for doing a thorough job so it's  quite easy to cock the pricing up if not careful as can take much long than you anticipated to clean properly.

[sunshine windows]

More like you ain't got a clue how to clean internal, hence the high price so they don't ask you to do it 

I don't like doing internals. Did 2-3 years off ladders before going wfp, so I know how to clean trad. I never blade the roof though. It's easier to use a soapy damp microfibre then polish off.

[richard groves]

I've found out from experiance when I say "deep clean" it's just a term used for doing a thorough job so it's  quite easy to cock the pricing up if not careful as can take much long than you anticipated to clean properly.

I know that's why I said  £50 an hour, £150 tops ( 3 hours being generous )
Deep clean is just a phrase that gets used to make things sound more involved than they actually are.

[Shane sharples]

15 mins set up/pack away
30 mins outside roof
15 mins outside windows
45 mins inside roof
15 mins inside windows

2 hours

30 mins to do a conservatory roof?  Wow your my hero , think I'll nominate you to that burbridge bloke

[Smurf]

I've found out from experiance when I say "deep clean" it's just a term used for doing a thorough job so it's  quite easy to cock the pricing up if not careful as can take much long than you anticipated to clean properly.

I know that's why I said  £50 an hour, £150 tops ( 3 hours being generous )
Deep clean is just a phrase that gets used to make things sound more involved than they actually are.

In my case a deep clean is a lot more involved as to just giving them a quick wipe over. That said when giving a quote I find out exactly what they need doing then still give both options (two prices) to chose from.  Funny enough they always go with the dearest option for some strange reason. 

As far as time wise the longest I've taken to do a conservatory full valet so far to date that's  inside and out on my own was 10 hours (split over two days). Needless to say it was not far off what T.S would have charged.

 

[richard groves]

15 mins set up/pack away
30 mins outside roof
15 mins outside windows
45 mins inside roof
15 mins inside windows

2 hours

30 mins to do a conservatory roof?  Wow your my hero , think I'll nominate you to that burbridge bloke

Are we looking at the same photograph ? A frame ladder, wfp , fan jets, soft flocked brush and a high flow. What is there in that pic that is going to take any "said" professional more than 30 mins ?

[Shane sharples]

I think so , considering there will be about 18 roof panels , I think 1.6 minutes per panel would be a quick wipe over , actually you'll be spending less than that by the time you've moved your ladder from one side all the way round to the other so we're probably talking 70 secs per panel ..... On a first clean?

[NWH]

You lot laugh at me when I say I go over the odd custies roof for pittance but this is exactly why I do it,if they paid me what I really wanted they would think I was having a laugh as it would be far to much for the time. This game and pricing takes years of practise lol,some people don't blink at paying £50 for 20 minutes or half hours work they think he's got to get here overheads etc they swallow that. When you start letting them know you want hundreds of pounds to do a job like that TBH wouldn't take alday the old brain starts to tick about how much your earning a day,you'll earn more cleaning windows chaps.

[dazmond]

15 mins set up/pack away
30 mins outside roof
15 mins outside windows
45 mins inside roof
15 mins inside windows

2 hours

to do a good job the outside roof would take at least 90 mins(if not 2 hours).you ll live to regret it estimating roofs like that for sure(i know from experience! )

[Shane sharples]

Gotta agree with you daz , my conny roof jobs usually take 1.5-2 hrs a proper job that I can take before and after pictures of

[NWH]

Depends what standard your looking at doing a couple of hours is optimistic IMO.

[Tosh]

Depends what standard your looking at doing

That's bleeding' obvious innit. Obviously Barry does a less than acceptable job compared to what others do.

[richard groves]

Coming on here does make me chuckle sometimes 

[Smurf]

Coming on here does make me chuckle sometimes 

Me too 

[Smurf]

Depends what standard your looking at doing

That's bleeding' obvious innit. Obviously Barry does a less than acceptable job compared to what others do.

I've actualy had it said to me more than once when I've been asked to give a quote "our window cleaner did our conservatory roof last time but did not do a very good job ."  So my standard reply is "you get what you pay for I suppose"

[dazmond]

Depends what standard your looking at doing

That's bleeding' obvious innit. Obviously Barry does a less than acceptable job compared to what others do.

barry will rush it too as he s undercharged them!the worse way to go about a job like that for sure.

dont forget finials take time,the edges of the roof,the outside gutters have to be cleaned too or else the job will look crap.the little bits on the roof take what seems like an age to rinse off completely.also polycarbon needs more than a quick scrub to get the ingrained moss/algae completely off.also you have to be careful you dont knock them stupid little ends cap off on the roof struts.

and this is without little spots of lichen on the roof!

[sunshine windows]

barry will rush it too as he s undercharged them!the worse way to go about a job like that for sure.

dont forget finials take time,the edges of the roof,the outside gutters have to be cleaned too or else the job will look crap.the little bits on the roof take what seems like an age to rinse off completely.also polycarbon needs more than a quick scrub to get the ingrained moss/algae completely off.also you have to be careful you dont knock them stupid little ends cap off on the roof struts.

and this is without little spots of lichen on the roof!

All that in under 2 minutes per panel too

[SeanK]

Depends what standard your looking at doing

That's bleeding' obvious innit. Obviously Barry does a less than acceptable job compared to what others do.

I've actualy had it said to me more than once when I've been asked to give a quote "our window cleaner did our conservatory roof last time but did not do a very good job ."  So my standard reply is "you get what you pay for I suppose"

Yes and Iv also had that said about shiners who charge the same and at times more than me, price guarantees nothing other
than the service provider knows how to look after him/ herself.

[SeanK]

Depends what standard your looking at doing

That's bleeding' obvious innit. Obviously Barry does a less than acceptable job compared to what others do.

barry will rush it too as he s undercharged them!the worse way to go about a job like that for sure.

dont forget finials take time,the edges of the roof,the outside gutters have to be cleaned too or else the job will look crap.the little bits on the roof take what seems like an age to rinse off completely.also polycarbon needs more than a quick scrub to get the ingrained moss/algae completely off.also you have to be careful you dont knock them stupid little ends cap off on the roof struts.

and this is without little spots of lichen on the roof!

No Dazmond Barry priced that job at £150 so even if it took 4 hours it would still be a nice earner for the vast majority of
shiners in the country.
Seriously mate you need to stop pandering to the penniless millionaires on here.

[H20cleaning]

2 hours outside 2 hours inside £150 ... I'm up north though and were poor remember

[8weekly]

Depends what standard your looking at doing

That's bleeding' obvious innit. Obviously Barry does a less than acceptable job compared to what others do.

I've actualy had it said to me more than once when I've been asked to give a quote "our window cleaner did our conservatory roof last time but did not do a very good job ."  So my standard reply is "you get what you pay for I suppose"

Yes and Iv also had that said about shiners who charge the same and at times more than me, price guarantees nothing other
than the service provider knows how to look after him/ herself.

The starting point should always be to respect and look after yourself. That generally means that corners won't be cut and that you respect others. If you don't respect and look after yourself, how can you respect others.

[NWH]

Look at some of the prices some are saying they'll clean it for in the region of £150,like I said you'll earn more cleaning windows.

[slap bash]

She has probably got Brakenwood  in Basingstoke doing the clean they have no clue what to charge and need more business. Why a conny supplier would ever get into cleaning them just kills me.

[sunshine windows]

Look at some of the prices some are saying they'll clean it for in the region of £150,like I said you'll earn more cleaning windows.

Perhaps they don't?

[NWH]

I bet they do if they clean houses for 6-10 quid lol.

[Smurf]

I'm betting I could clean the outside of that conservatory roof including glass, struts, pointy bits, gutters then clean all 3 sides all from the ground in about 10 min. Only problem is most would go ape at the methods I would use to do it in that short space of time.

I too have a special machine to clean conservatory roofs... it's called a pressure washer 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQvfK9MPWBY

[sunshine windows]

Holy crap 😂😂😂

[Smurf]

Holy crap

Good innit 

Just goes to show what some cowboys use just to save time.

[mikey]

smurf do you ever get leaks when you do that and do you turn the psi down

[Smurf]

Mikey, I'm not that silly to pressure washer a conservatory roof honest 

[richard groves]

Hope everybody had a good weekend.
I was not around to reply or defend my approx. quote of 2 hours.
I was never suggesting I clean all conny roofs in 30 mins.
I've cleaned roofs in the past caked in bird mess and moss with green upvc frames and I agree they are hard work and take far longer.
I was only estimating on how long I thought this one would take me from what I could see in the photo.
What I could see was :
good all round access
a well kept and maintained modern property
no evidence of heavily soiled windows or frames e.g. algae, moss, lichen etc.
A couple of posters here seem to think my workmanship would be sub standard in some way to their own .
I never leave a job until I am happy that its clean .
Maybe I have been a little optimistic in 2 hours but not far off the mark considering other jobs I do very similar to that.
And as Sean K has pointed out I have not under priced as have allowed extra time in the cost for any problems that "may" arise or take me longer.

[richard groves]

Mikey, I'm not that silly to pressure washer a conservatory roof honest 

No, you would have to be a right muppet ( not a smurf )

[Smurf]

Mikey, I'm not that silly to pressure washer a conservatory roof honest 

No, you would have to be a right muppet ( not a smurf )

Indeed 

By the way I was not implying in any way that anyone would do a shoddy job because of rushing as it's their rep on the line after all. However I've found out the hard way from experience when pricing up work some jobs you think are going to be dead easy are usually the ones that turn out to be a PITA and can take a lot more time to do properly. I’ve also found if you can price well on every job then you can’t go wrong. So if it takes less time than you think in the end that’s a big bonus instead of the other way around.