dedemiegas

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What chemical to use?
« on: October 23, 2015, 09:58:18 am »
Hello,
I'm trying to renew my bathroom, biggest problem is mold. Ceilings i done with mold remover  from supermarket. But biggest issue is the place between the tiles. Mold don't come off. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance

Kev Martin

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2015, 11:51:25 am »
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dedemiegas

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2015, 02:24:00 pm »
I bought it now waiting to come.  And will post how those tiles will look after that spray use :) Thank you

Tadgh O Shea

Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2015, 04:52:05 pm »
Hello,
I'm trying to renew my bathroom, biggest problem is mold. Ceilings i done with mold remover  from supermarket. But biggest issue is the place between the tiles. Mold don't come off. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
A restoration job i would think, can't see any cleaning product removing tough mold as shown in your picture, you might post some after pictures dedemiegas, cheers Tadgh

dedemiegas

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2015, 02:04:03 pm »
that chemical didn't helped. Left for 45 minutes, cleaned, rinsed... but nothing happened... :/

dedemiegas

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 02:05:53 pm »
Tadgh i think you was right, restoration job needed.

Kev Martin

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 02:56:48 pm »
that chemical didn't helped. Left for 45 minutes, cleaned, rinsed... but nothing happened... :/

So let me get this right!

1.  You pre wet all the grout and tile with clean water
2.  You sprayed the solution on and let it dwell
3.  You agitated it with a brush
4.  You rinsed it and dried it

And you are saying there was no difference

Is that correct? 

Because if so,  you are the first person I have ever come across that it didn't work for!  I sprayed it on a Belfast sink in a school that had black and green mould on it that was at least 2- 3 mm thick and it totally removed it using the above process.  I also tried it in a bathroom with zero ventilation  that had mould a lot worse than in your photos and it left it immaculate.

Please post the after photo!
Where is the job?
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dedemiegas

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2015, 06:38:52 pm »
I will post all stages with photos tomorrow what I have done. But really it wasn't even looked like it starting to taking the mold off. I got that Disinfectant cleaner but it had no seal on the top just opened that spray bottle and saw that it was filled up with some chemical. Maybe someone changed chemical with wrong one or something... Anyway I will do again tomorrow and post a photos.

Tadgh O Shea

Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2015, 09:33:10 pm »
Removing mold from a Belfast sink is a simple task just use a magic eraser pad damp with water quick scrub for perfect results, different story on removing mold from grout lines which are very porous and allows the mold to get a very tough grip, i have yet to come across a cleaner that solves these problems, i wish i could though.

Kev Martin

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2015, 11:15:40 pm »
I will post all stages with photos tomorrow what I have done. But really it wasn't even looked like it starting to taking the mold off. I got that Disinfectant cleaner but it had no seal on the top just opened that spray bottle and saw that it was filled up with some chemical. Maybe someone changed chemical with wrong one or something... Anyway I will do again tomorrow and post a photos.

Don't  be ridiculous why the hell would we change a product?  The product is sent out with a transport cap and the sprayer separately  for transport safety that is how they arrive from the USA.
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Kev Martin

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2015, 11:23:34 pm »
Removing mold from a Belfast sink is a simple task just use a magic eraser pad damp with water quick scrub for perfect results, different story on removing mold from grout lines which are very porous and allows the mold to get a very tough grip, i have yet to come across a cleaner that solves these problems, i wish i could though.

It's called Miracle Tile and Disinfectant Cleaner and it works.  I have cleaned more mould off Tile and Grout than I care to remember  Go and see SMC in Dublin and they will let you try some.  LTP do one as well it is called Mouldex but it stinks.  The trick is to pre wet the grout first with water
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Tadgh O Shea

Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2015, 11:41:16 pm »
Just saying Kevin i have tried dozens of products which claim to remove mold from grout lines, i have not come across one yet that is effective and thats just being honest, if the product you have is effective at removing tough mold stains from grout lines happy days for you and i would be happy to send guys onto Mark from SMC who i think is a great guy to deal with. Tadgh

Kev Martin

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2015, 07:45:57 am »
Removing mould from grout is no more difficult than removing it from any other surface.  As long as you fill the grout (or any porous stone) up with water so the product can work on the surface there should not be any difference to spraying it on polished tile.  Bringing my tile fixing knowledge in there is only one exception and that is when the walls (especially plasterboard) were not tanked behind a shower then black mould manifests sub surface feeding on the plasterboard / plaster and begins to grow and then actually  can creep through the grout from the substrate.  This stuff is very dangerous but a subject for another day when I write a post on mould and spores ;D
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dedemiegas

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2015, 07:55:05 am »


Good morning,
That is what I did this morning.

Mike Halliday

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2015, 08:38:18 am »
Just to be clear..... That's not grout that is sealing mastic  are we trying to remove mold from porous grout  or   silicone mastic?
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Tadgh O Shea

Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2015, 09:09:41 am »
Whatever about removing mold from grout lines, there is definitely no chance of removing it from silicone mastic .

Kev Martin

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2015, 11:07:45 am »
Right for a start off both Mike and Tadgh are correct.  That silicone is full of black mould and it is a health hazard.  I cannot see any wetness or evidence of the solution in either stages 2 or 3.  Miracle TS & Disinfectant Cleaner  produces a foam that I can see no evidence of.  Did you apply enough?  That said all the grout needs treating as well and I see no evidence of that either. 

What you need to do is pre wet all the grout and then spray the solution starting at the top of the tiles so it runs down all the grout lines.  Do not be afraid to put plenty on as you have enough to do a whole bathroom (Usually around 18M2 on walls and 4 M2 on floors)  Then agitate with a soft brush and leave to dwell.  Then agitate again and thoroughly rinse.

The silicone is a different matter

Firstly it looks like it has been applied by a child of 6.
You need to apply a sealing and coating remover all over the silicone and then leave it for 30 minutes.
Start in a corner and gently lift it and then it will simply pull out in one long strip as long as you pull it gently it will come away clean.
Thoroughly clean all ceramic and tiles using methylated spirit.

Then when dry apply a new bead of silicone containing Microban.

Make sure you wear a mask black mould is very dangerous
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dedemiegas

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2015, 12:54:36 pm »
Ok silicone is different thing, so back on grout lines. Done all you said and it doesn't look any better. I'm not blaming anyone just say that this solution isn't the right thing for this job. Mold should get yellow after some contact time with solution and then rinsed off properly but now it just don't do anything.







Kev Martin

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2015, 02:17:07 pm »
Right now do me a favour scrape a small area of the mould with a sharp flat pointed screwdriver or similar and tell me what happen!  I only want you to do a couple of the so called mould spots please!

Incidentally where is this room?  Is it in a house? Club? Changing room?  Do you know or have any idea when it was tiled and grouted?
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dedemiegas

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Re: What chemical to use?
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2015, 03:40:18 pm »
When i scrape grout goes off and that area goes white, but It's obvious that it should happen after scraping.
It's bathroom in a flat. Living here for 4 years now and mold started to grow last winter.  Have no idea when it was tiled and grouted.