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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 03:21:45 pm

Title: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 03:21:45 pm
As my previous post regarding GVS
And the help of others

I’ve been looking at putting something together as title ^

doing some maths

A cheap 3000 watt wido wet dry vac smudger recommended £210

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WET-AND-DRY-VAC-VACUUM-CLEANER-INDUSTRIAL-80L-LITRE-3000W-CARWASH-HOOVER-Wido-/331992974424

GVS new lightest aerospace poles 25 ft with tools and bag £199

https://www.guttervacuumsystems.co.uk/product/worlds-lightest-aluminium-gutter-cleaning-pole-kit-25ft/

Heavy duty extension reel £72

https://www.guttervacuumsystems.co.uk/product/230v-3600w-heavy-duty-extension-reel/

**# cyclonic inlet upgrade kit  51mm & 5metres Hose £126

https://www.guttervacuumsystems.co.uk/product/cyclonic-inlet-upgrade-complete-kit/

Total so far £607

Bit I’m not sure on is the cyclonic upgrade kit
Which marries wet dry vac I’ve shown to poles.

Also I know ally poles not perfect but video
On New aerospace 25 ft ally poles shows Julie (is it ?)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cwy8nhkO4kE

Lifting complete ally pole setup one handed!

They recommend not adding anymore poles
To this set as pole wall thickness is thinner

But 25 foot is enough for most houses up to 2 storey and above conservatories

Have I missed anything anyone🤔

Many thanks lee

Thanks for all your advice everyone

Raining on and off today not been out yet 🤦‍♂️

Today would be a perfect gutter clearing day or half day 😁💰
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 03:31:53 pm
Camera mount £8

https://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/alloy-camera-mount.html

Camera, link courtesy of one of you guys 👍
Not sure if it screws into gardiner mount🤔

£30

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campark-ACT76-Action-Camera-4K-Ultra-HD-WiFi-Waterproof-Sports-Cam-DV-Camcorder-/152817230740


Still under £650
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2020, 04:13:36 pm
I wouldn't buy that reel

Get a coil of artic flex
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B075F8YR1K/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Better rating and cheaper - you can buy a blank (empty) reel for £10 on eBay and put a 16 amp water proof socket one end and when you get a vac change the 3 pin for a mating 16 amp

Darran
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 04:26:53 pm
Thanks for that Smudger 👍

Was getting excited as thought vat was going
Down

It is but hot food hospitality industry

Not on wfp equipment 🙆🏻‍♂️
Or wet and dry vacs!
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: swanson on July 08, 2020, 05:18:02 pm
You only get what you pay for.
A decent set will cost you just over the £1000 mark plus camera kit.
Buy cheap it won’t last.
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 05:35:47 pm
Before you even think about buying a gutter vac look at the majority of gutters out and about a lot of them you can’t get a tube in,I have a gutter vac and a lot of the time I’ve always had to clear some if not most by hand due to not being able to access the gutter.
They do one now that has a valve at the base which allows you to lift and drop large bits of moss etc,that’s essential the amount of times I’ve had to drop unblock and then raise back up again it’s a pain.
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 06:04:31 pm
NWH

Yes I’ve heard people say this

But also others say they’ve never had a problem

Also some say budget setups are crap

A lot of the vacs are just rebranded and price hiked
The SkyVac high end range are nisfliks

Difficult one

I think I’m going to take the plunge

Hence not looking to spend too much
As maybe on eBay selling for £300

This time next year

I’ll have camera and survey
If it’s a complete nightmare
I won’t be doing it

Say something like tiles over hang too much a good chance they’ll dislodge

Run away 🏃🏻‍♂️ 😁
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 06:08:10 pm
Unfortunately it will be like going back to 🏫 school

Same as When I switched to wfp 🤭

Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 07:07:56 pm
Some houses or offices are easy it’s like printing cash but some are the opposite and you wished you’d never said yes,unless you look some houses appear to have huge room for the tube and when you attempt to clean them only the thin attachment will go in leaving the backs of the gutters full.
I’ve cleaned some average height houses out quicker by hand rather than faff with the vac,bucket hanging off the ladder with a S shaped meat hook right under you sometimes seems easier take it from me although I don’t clear any gutters in the summer out of choice.
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: Rob.Hall on July 08, 2020, 07:10:54 pm
I love cleaning gutters with my vac.
 Im off the ladder 90% of the time and its great. 😊
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 07:18:57 pm
The vac is a good ornament to have in sitting in the garden when you are charging a high price to clean them out by hand 🤣🤣🤣,I’ve done that before I’ve thought this is easier by hand most of the time it is tbh the time you’ve got it out or though health and safety and all that.
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: tom20001 on July 08, 2020, 07:24:35 pm
Before you even think about buying a gutter vac look at the majority of gutters out and about a lot of them you can’t get a tube in,I have a gutter vac and a lot of the time I’ve always had to clear some if not most by hand due to not being able to access the gutter.
They do one now that has a valve at the base which allows you to lift and drop large bits of moss etc,that’s essential the amount of times I’ve had to drop unblock and then raise back up again it’s a pain.

That valve is a great idea ive often just turned off vac but its a nightmare especially on 3 storeys
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: tom20001 on July 08, 2020, 07:27:02 pm
Overhanging tiles are a nightmare just done big job and had loads off trouble with them 🙈
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 07:30:38 pm
Yeah that’s what I mean you can’t see it on the first look until you turn up with the vac and start complete nightmare,ladder off.
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: Dave Willis on July 08, 2020, 07:35:12 pm
What diameter are those tubes?
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: lee_dewing on July 08, 2020, 07:46:43 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1594232939_8CCE3EE3-AA0C-4A8C-B1F3-208C28C9707C.png)

NWH. Have you got these ?
They do all shapes to fit gutters

If your up the ladder you might as well minimise your moves

Wondered if they fit to slx with camera
Drag all the crap up to one end
Hoover out 🤔
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: Splash & dash on July 08, 2020, 09:29:50 pm
Yeah that’s what I mean you can’t see it on the first look until you turn up with the vac and start complete nightmare,ladder off.

When quoting the job you should do a camera survey any problems will then be identified and charged accordingly , there should never be any surprises when you turn up to do a job if this process is followed
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2020, 09:47:08 pm
slipped tiles can be pushed back if you use a solid swan neck and not silicone bend

While im sure Nigel has some valid points - it does just sometimes come down to your ability to do the job  - I'd find it very unlikely the majority of gutters Nigel clears are so tight you cant get the nozzle in - around out way that would be about 1 in 60 clears and out of them 1 in 10 maybe rammed so possibly 1 in 600 is a ball ache - Nigel must just be unlucky  ;D ;D ;D

Darran
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 10:38:49 pm
I don’t like doing em they are dirty horrible ball ache jobs i only do them for regular customers,I do better cleaning their windows,why anyone would want to go round canvassing those jobs is beyond me. I’ve had the vac 5 years and I hate using it maybe I’d like the new sky vac  the base section looks like it’s more secure to the base pole but the one I have makes my testicles ache when using it,I get it out the van dirty it up a bit then clear most by hand 🤣🤣🤣🤣 💰
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 10:41:23 pm
I reckon on houses those pro gutter tools would be better,honestly I did a lovely big new house a couple of years ago nice cast iron guttering got the nozzle in and thought it won’t go in at all.
Gets up the ladder to look and I could hardly get my fingers in it was so tight lol,they must have run out of puff the builders when it came to finishing off the job,dreadful.
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2020, 10:42:10 pm
I don’t like doing em they are dirty horrible ball ache jobs i only do them for regular customers,I do better cleaning their windows,why anyone would want to go round canvassing those jobs is beyond me. I’ve had the vac 5 years and I hate using it maybe I’d like the new sky vac  the base section looks like it’s more secure to the base pole but the one I have makes my testicles ache when using it,I get it out the van dirty it up a bit then clear most by hand 🤣🤣🤣🤣 💰

if you had staff then you wouldn't need to do them  🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 11:03:35 pm
Oh don’t worry I have help and that’s just the thing when people send out rabbits they end up pricing stuff for peanuts 🥜 and taking on terrace houses and 1 bed flats lol,you want to get out and clean some windows yourself the 10 quid a poppers might need to go up when you’re cleaning em 🤣🤣🤣.
Like I say I do gutters for regulars and that’s it I don’t want gutter jobs they make my balls ache,dirty horrible machines I’d rather clean windows that are already clean 🤣💰
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 11:06:17 pm
I interviewed 2 last week 1 couldn’t stop dribbling and the other one wanted his mum to pick him up at lunchtime 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🍼 🍼,I tell you what some of these people today  Saying they want work I’ve S**T bigger things out when I get home.
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 11:08:57 pm
I said to em you can have 20% of they daily take if we just canter he was happy with 120 notes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💰💰💰💰😳😳
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: Smudger on July 08, 2020, 11:13:14 pm
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 08, 2020, 11:21:09 pm
🤣🤣👍 honestly you can’t buy em when they turn up I’m looking out the window waiting if they walk like Ray out of rain man or  Forest Gump I don’t answer the door,after a while in this game you can spot a cheesy bell in a split second.
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: Smudger on July 09, 2020, 01:57:32 pm
🤣🤣👍 honestly you can’t buy em when they turn up I’m looking out the window waiting if they walk like Ray out of rain man or  Forest Gump I don’t answer the door,after a while in this game you can spot a cheesy bell in a split second.

yep your right you can defo spot them.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍
Title: Re: Budget gutter vac system 🤔
Post by: NWH on July 09, 2020, 05:18:48 pm
You can easily sell gutter clearing with a vac though I know you can earn good money it’s just I don’t like doing them,most people looking for window cleaning jobs these days have very very long arms like Neanderthal man dragging their knuckles,I might give one of em a job just for clearing gutters from the ground 🤣🤣