Is Fairy Liquid Getting Weaker??

« **on:** September 10, 2005, 02:43:42 pm »

Does anyone think like me that Fairy Liquid is getting weaker.

It seem's to be less concentrated just lately, i used to put just one good sqeeze into half a bucket of water & there was sud's galore.

I now put one sqeeze of water into a bucket of fairy (it seem's)

I use the green stuff----what alternatives are there?

What do you use?

You Polemen please don't give me too much abuse

Regards Ray.

« **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2005, 03:06:53 pm »

IT WILL BE YOU TIGHT WAD:using happy shopper fairy liquid

you can use gg3 or gg4 but its expensive compared to fairy liquid.

I use apple blossem smelling in winter,it reminds me spring is just around the corner .pmsl and Iuse standard on mon weds thursdays reminds me its my turn to wash the pots on those days

so RAY is that why you use ordinary fairy everyday?

GAZA

« **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2005, 03:21:38 pm »

Hi Ray,

when i use fairy liquid i always put a lot in the bucket to give it plenty of slip, sometimes put a bit of GG4 in but like Gaza says it is a bit expensive

Ray you taught Gaza everything he doesnt know but i thought it was me who taught him everything he doesnt know

Brett

« **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2005, 03:25:51 pm »

Hi Gaza!

Apple blossom & the other i thought there was only green fairy!

Anyway the green's got to be the best cus i bath in it wash my hair in it & theres nowt wrong with my hair apart from the bald patch & the greyness!!

As for washing up the pot's i'm a real man & I DON'T DO POTS!!

(unless she tell's me to)

Ray.

« **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2005, 03:26:19 pm »

I think they are putting less salt in it

« **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2005, 03:26:55 pm »

your both being observered

gaza

BRETTwhat you doing away from the sink?

« **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2005, 03:31:48 pm »

Hiya Brett.

Is it GG4 for hard water areas & GG3 for soft??

How much of it would you put in your bucket mixed with fairy??

Liked you said Brett what does Gaza know-----i don't know how he survived before we came along!!!

Ray.

« **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2005, 03:45:20 pm »

Hi Ray

yes i think thats right about the GG4 and GG3 but i just use GG4 and put about a capful in the instructions are on the bottle, i also find it good for cleaning facias

Gaza ive finished the pots now im on my 10 minute break, dont forget me and Ray are here to help you whenever needed

, going to start designing your new flyers now i'll give you a ring when theyre finished.

Brett

« **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2005, 07:08:49 pm »

Im in a hard water area and when i used a squeege i used gg3 tried gg4 but gg3 came out on top.Its not expensive considering jow much you use to water.A 1ltr bottle will last 6 months easy

« **Reply #9 on:** September 10, 2005, 08:49:42 pm »

aye i got to agree

GG 4 for me

glad i ditched fairy, the windows stay cleaner aswell with GG

something to do with lanonlin attracting the dust and stuff on the windows (i wont go into too much details, as i dont want to look a geek)

righty oh, off for my tea and some TV with the mrs

« **Reply #10 on:** September 10, 2005, 09:34:03 pm »

It might be .......

The thing about Fairy is that they've been under constant attack from Greenpeace about all the hidden toxic chemicals that Procter and Gamble put in good old Fairy.

These companies are under constant pressure to be more 'green' and maybe without some of their secret formulers changed, their products don't work as well.

I use Ettore clean it off as I find Fairy leaves a film behind but the other 2 I work with say I'm talking rubbish.

Also I don't like the thought of all those toxic musks and silicon being absorbed through my skin which is why they always advise to wear rubber gloves.

Cheers

« **Reply #11 on:** September 10, 2005, 10:00:50 pm »

I use gg4, also use fairy liquid. Saparately.
Never use Fairy with lemon or anything else added. Just adds smears.
Bit new to GG4 but seems to add more smears than fairy so far. Unless I'm missing something.

Pj

« **Reply #12 on:** September 11, 2005, 12:15:30 am »

you cant beat fairy,its the market leader ,it speaks fo itself.
you telling me a w/c company product knows better ?
i dont think so .

« **Reply #13 on:** September 11, 2005, 08:09:33 am »

Well so far.

It seems i will have to use more Fairy liquid in my bucket (i'm so tight) & possibly add a dash of GG4.

Cheers all

Ray.

« **Reply #14 on:** September 11, 2005, 08:11:04 pm »

Use less not more and add a dash of dishwasher rinse aid. I'v been using it for months. Cuts down on suds, very usefull in windy weather, Stops blow back over the blade. Brilliant with a backflip or my new favourite the Wagtail. DAi

« **Reply #15 on:** September 11, 2005, 09:50:16 pm »

Dai.

What's the Wagtail like??
What do you think are the main advantages?

I'm thinking of getting one for hard to reach windows & fix to an extension pole.

What do you reckon??

Ray.

« **Reply #16 on:** September 12, 2005, 06:48:42 am »

All washing up liquids will leave a residue behind, the stronger the solution, the stronger the residue.
This residue isn't visible, nor can you feel it, but particles in the air will stick to it.

The specialist detergents some of us use are designed for window cleaning, if diluted properly they leave far less residue behind, ergo the windows remain cleaner for longer.
Washing up liquid (Fairy or any other make) has a different remit to window cleaning detergent, it's a far more powerful detergent and has to cope with way more grease, baked on food, starch and all the other things that fester in your sink overnight (well if you've had a skinfull you don't want to do the washing up straight away...do you?) than you are going to find on windows.

Is it weaker now? Personally I don't know, I use the Unger liquid, and I no longer suffer from dermatitis.....though as most of my work is now WFP, that is the most likely reason I no longer have those problems $:-\$

Regards,

Ian

« **Reply #17 on:** September 12, 2005, 03:47:10 pm »

Very constructed comment's Ian!

With something as simple as liquid's it's not all plain sailing!!

Thanks for your comments.

Ray.

Alan.

That sounds a good alternative as opposed to Fairy.

Thanks for that.

Ray.

« **Reply #18 on:** September 12, 2005, 04:05:20 pm »

In seven years i have tried everything .and i always keep coming back to fairy and get great results with it .and never ever get any complaints at all.

« **Reply #19 on:** September 13, 2005, 01:23:16 pm »

i also use "ettore squeegee off" and think it is a very good product leaving nothing but sparkles behind, I did try fairy for a few days as it is loads cheaper but went beack to squeegee off caus the results are very good

« **Reply #20 on:** September 13, 2005, 05:42:46 pm »

Quote from: matt on September 10, 2005, 08:49:42 pm

aye i got to agree

GG 4 for me

glad i ditched fairy, the windows stay cleaner aswell with GG

something to do with lanonlin attracting the dust and stuff on the windows (i wont go into too much details, as i dont want to look a geek)

righty oh, off for my tea and some TV with the mrs

please matt be a geek i am interested

« **Reply #21 on:** September 13, 2005, 10:47:49 pm »

Good old fairy contains amongst other nasties - silicon.

Just to give that lovely crisp shine to your plates that then catch the light and glisten and look shiney and sparkle and .....

Trouble with silicon in that form is that is essentialy a liquid with a solid hard barrier on top of it.

Eventually it dries out and your plates no longer sparkle etc.

Before that happens though fine atmospheric dirt gets stuck to it and the silicon acts as a glue like substance.

I think it comes down to fairy looks good at the time.

Don't I know a lot?

I don't realy, I phoned a friend who is a chemical engineer.

The best detergent are anionic (an ionic??) whatever that means. I did ask but got lost in the answer. Something to do with charged particals and no chemical sufactants or something.

Cheers

« **Reply #22 on:** September 13, 2005, 11:08:38 pm »

I've used the old green stuff for 18 years no trouble, but, me wallets out...Whats an nanionic onionac whatever..Give us the trade name we'll all have 3 boxes each

Pj

« **Reply #23 on:** September 13, 2005, 11:20:20 pm »

Hi Pj

Quote

Whats an nanionic onionac whatever..Give us the trade name we'll all have 3 boxes each

Er..... My poor brain can only absorb so much information.

As for trades names? Pass, but they are easily available. Somewhere...... I suppose if you know what to ak for.

I don't even really know what he was on about. I just repeated it because it sounded good and knowing my friend, it was true.

Cheers

« **Reply #24 on:** September 14, 2005, 10:43:15 am »

Hi all..
Does any of you use ECOVER ecological washing up liquid, ive heard its realy good, leaves no smears or streaks..

Regards
Rog
Crystal Clear Window Cleaning

« **Reply #25 on:** September 14, 2005, 08:47:59 pm »

Dai.

What's the Wagtail like??
What do you think are the main advantages?

I'm thinking of getting one for hard to reach windows & fix to an extension pole.

What do you reckon??

Ray.
Ray, I think that the Wagtail is a brilliant bit of kit. I think it would take a lot of practice to get really good with the pole though. I still prefer the backflip for pole work, for the rest Wagtail every time. I bought My Mrs a 12" Wagtail and she took to it straight away. Dai

« **Reply #26 on:** September 14, 2005, 09:27:10 pm »

A WC`er I know switched to Stardrops (from Fairy) recently and has been raving about it.
Easier to work with and cheaper he says. I`ve not tried it myself though.

Gerry.

« **Reply #27 on:** September 14, 2005, 10:50:33 pm »

Hot off the press.

I've had an e mail from Proctor and Gamble.

Their hand liking lovely dishes cleaning best product in the world that is constantly being improved ...... hasn't changed for years .......

I didn't get the bit they wrote about 'constantly improved' and 'has not changed for years' bit though so I'll e mail them again and report back.

Cheers

« **Reply #28 on:** September 14, 2005, 10:57:46 pm »

Fairy Liquid is the market leader in it's field. No question about it

Pj

« **Reply #29 on:** September 14, 2005, 11:09:18 pm »

Its the only w/u liquid that dont dry my hands out .
the trade stuff just costs to much for the amount of windows i do in a day .i change my water about 5 times a day ,but that will reduce now i am using my wfp.