Poll

Do you use cones for residential window cleaning?

Yes
42.1%
16 (42.1%)
No
57.9%
22 (57.9%)

Total Members Voted: 37

Paul-kent

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Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« on: September 17, 2019, 10:39:28 am »
I have been trying to find out if it’s needed and found this info on the web does this apply to trailing hoses as well  ??? ???

The pavement defect must be at least 1inch (2.5cm)
When making a compensation claim against the council for a slip or trip, the defect that has caused the accident must be at least 1inch. For example, if you have tripped due to a raised paving slab, it must be at least 1inch above the normal level.

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2019, 10:46:47 am »
If they are not paying attention enough to see a high vis hose covering the whole length of a payment they wont see a cone either. So you are just putting out another obsticle for them to fall over. 

If they are stupid enough to walk around with their nose in their phone it's their look out. 

I have cameras recording all the time from the front and rear of the van.
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Paul-kent

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2019, 10:52:24 am »
If they are not paying attention enough to see a high vis hose covering the whole length of a payment they wont see a cone either. So you are just putting out another obsticle for them to fall over. 

If they are stupid enough to walk around with their nose in their phone it's their look out. 

I have cameras recording all the time from the front and rear of the van.

That’s a good idea what cameras do you use

Plankton

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2019, 12:34:53 pm »
This is only in reference to defects! If you slipped on a wet shop floor and broke your arm you'd have a claim no matter what height the liquid was.
If it's too windy for cones then I suppose it's down to what's reasonably practicable.

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2019, 12:39:45 pm »
This is only in reference to defects! If you slipped on a wet shop floor and broke your arm you'd have a claim no matter what height the liquid was.
If it's too windy for cones then I suppose it's down to what's reasonably practicable.

So who gets the blame when it rains?  ;D
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TomCrowther

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2019, 01:40:00 pm »
This is only in reference to defects! If you slipped on a wet shop floor and broke your arm you'd have a claim no matter what height the liquid was.
If it's too windy for cones then I suppose it's down to what's reasonably practicable.

So who gets the blame when it rains?  ;D
When it's raining you are aware there is likely to be a slip hazard. If some berk leaves slopped water on a shop floor for example {no sign} then people are going to slip on it.

The Jester of Wibbly

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2019, 02:28:13 pm »
This is only in reference to defects! If you slipped on a wet shop floor and broke your arm you'd have a claim no matter what height the liquid was.
If it's too windy for cones then I suppose it's down to what's reasonably practicable.

So who gets the blame when it rains?  ;D
When it's raining you are aware there is likely to be a slip hazard. If some berk leaves slopped water on a shop floor for example {no sign} then people are going to slip on it.

In indoor tyles and wooden floors yes.  On tarmac and concrete nope
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dazmond

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2019, 03:58:32 pm »
i dont put cones out for domestic or commercial jobs anymore......i got sick of leaving them on jobs,running over them in my van and  2 people nearly tripped over them!also they take up valuable space in my van....... ;D
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nathankaye

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2019, 04:08:40 pm »
For the first 2 years, i would religiously put them out on every job.  Then I would have the idiots on their phones, tripping over the huge warning cones (the yellow ones with rubber bases) and thought, whats the point.

The hose i use is bright green and can not be missed unless they are blind.  I simply make sure that I have no loops in it to cause any trip hazards and in the last two years without the cones, I have had no hazards yet.
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Slacky

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2019, 05:07:50 pm »
🍦?

Don’t be stupid.

Splash & dash

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2019, 06:08:04 pm »
You have a duty of care to members of the public to warn them of anything that you are doing that could affect there health and safety , if they trip over your hose and you have no signs out and it goes to court you will more than likely be found guilty , if signs are out then you have done your best to warn them and they should have seen the sign and you will probably be found not guilty this is what one of my customers said who is  an accident claim specialist Soliciter . We also have commercial jobs where it’s part of the clients H&S  stipulation that cones are put by all doorways warning of trip hazards . We don’t put them out on all domestic work but should do really, but on every commercial job  they are used , it’s called covering your back 😂😂😂

Ooooooog

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Re: Do you put cones out for residential window cleaning
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2019, 07:10:58 pm »
We’ve had to backpack 3000 domestics recently. Client said no to running hoses over pavements etc.