davep

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Whirlaway
« on: April 22, 2015, 10:55:49 am »
Noticed earlier our Whirlaway has a hole on the centre  that has water coming out of it. I seem to remember water just coming out the nozzles.

Is this a problem or normal?

Matt Gibson

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2015, 01:31:23 pm »
It means your O Ring inside the swivel has gone. You can take the swivel apart and replace the o ring. Its a pain but the complete new swivel is over £200


davep

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BDCS

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2015, 03:30:54 pm »
Obviously they stand to benefit from a sale maybe ?

davep

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 03:34:18 pm »
 :) Could be.  Can you advise on getting to this o ring at all please?

Ben Marriott

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 04:23:42 pm »
If the only issue present is water coming through the bypass or "tell tale hole" then replacing the O-Ring would be all that is necessary in which case you only have to remove the bar and shaft by removing the circlip then strip out the remaining parts, replace the inlet kit and rebuild ensuring all parts are greased - the lesser circlip may need to be replaced if deformed during removal.

If however there is lateral play in the bar you will need to replace the bearings which locate onto the shaft, depending on the amount of wear and the time which the bearings have been overly worn the shaft and internal seat may also be worn to the point where replacement is not possible - further movement will just continually wear seal / o-rings through. Where this is the case a new head unit is the quickest solution. If however you are able to strip down and measure adjust tolerances yourself order a repair kit and some SKF / fAg bearings. See image attached.
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davep

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2015, 06:22:56 pm »
Cheers Ben, just been speaking to Tal that I think you explained this to earlier. We will order the part tonight  ;)

Matt Gibson

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2015, 08:14:23 pm »
They can be a pain in the a$$ to get apart.

Rob@Blast off

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2015, 09:00:06 pm »
Where's the best place to get the o rings from?
As I have given up trying to get one off the supplier of my whirlaway

Ben Marriott

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2015, 09:08:14 pm »
Where's the best place to get the o rings from?
As I have given up trying to get one off the supplier of my whirlaway

The rebuild kit on an 18" WAW should be about £20/21 delivered on a next day service consisting of Inlet valve, spring & O ring
Part BS131 which is the large lower o-ring is about £3 plus carriage typically.

Cheapest on eBay is £40
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chris scott

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2015, 09:26:06 pm »
Try Rutland pumps  for parts
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Matt.

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 09:41:32 pm »
Try Rutland pumps  for parts
46 Hall Close, Whissendine, Oakham LE15 7HN
01664 490451
www.rutlandpumps.co.uk
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See that Dave, Chris has even gave you a contact number,

I have bought from Rutland pumps, and no probs what so ever, this is who we all need be dealing with to get are bits and bobs from,

I took Chris's advise from day 1, no messing about spoke with the guy, and have bought a load of hoses off him since.

I will prob pick a WAW up off him in next few weeks as I have to start a big job, and tbh mate you know we're you stand with him, no p taking with prices just tells you what you need and how much it is.

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Rob@Blast off

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2015, 10:13:44 pm »
Matty spent the extra and get a mosmatic

Matt.

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2015, 10:18:00 pm »
Matty spent the extra and get a mosmatic

I will Rob, that's what I meant.

I will check with him this week if he supplies mosmatic, I was tempted to ask my aunt in USA to post one to me but can't be bothered with all the messing about, she's getting on a bit now.

It's all or nothing sometimes everyone wants all kinds doing yesterday.

Aqua Power Solutions

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2015, 08:13:38 am »
If your thinking about getting a Mossi  , then get a price  from Jetwash Direct in Huddersfield or visit site .
www.jet-wash-direct.co.uk

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Mike Halliday

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2015, 07:53:55 am »
Just looking at the difference between the Mossi & wirlaway  I can see the wirlaway is of plastic construction rather than stainless steel but is the rotating arm fitting also of a lower quality?

I've been looking for a 16 inch FSC  which only wirlaway seem to do
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Ben Marriott

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2015, 09:33:14 am »
Just looking at the difference between the Mossi & wirlaway  I can see the wirlaway is of plastic construction rather than stainless steel but is the rotating arm fitting also of a lower quality?

I've been looking for a 16 inch FSC  which only wirlaway seem to do

Generally speaking the whirlaway is a cheaper machine, I suppose the one advantage of the Mosmatics are that they are rated to 500 Bar on certain models which whirlaway are not. The only real downside to the Mosmatics are other than the higher price the inability to rebuild the head unit, on the Mosmatics these are sealed units and cannot be serviced or replaced. In this respect the whirlaway has the potential to be longer lived. Bar strength wise it doesn't really matter whether they are made of steel or stainless if they hit something hard enough both will bend and crack.. But I know for a fact you won't be paying £20 for a Mosmatic bar.

Mosmatic is the better machine without doubt but when it goes wrong they are more costly to repair. The extra price comes with the attention to detail, castors which last more than two weeks from new and a build done to much finer tolerances.
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Matt.

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2015, 11:29:52 am »
So in hindsight and as my machine is 250 bar I think there would be no benefit in paying the extra for a mossy, and a waw may not look as nice but will do exactly the same job and is easy enough to find parts and that.

Ben.

U very much no ur stuff mate and it's very much appreciated by all on here.

Matt

Rob@Blast off

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Re: Whirlaway
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2015, 07:43:13 pm »
Brought a brand new whirlaway and after three weeks it started leaking out the bypass now the trigger is coming apart  >:(