JandS

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Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2009, 03:55:44 pm »
If you can get access for a TM.
How many sq m an hour of grubby office carpet can be reasonably done by a TM? Roughly.

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

derek west

Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2009, 04:05:48 pm »
100sq meters
derek

Glynn

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Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2009, 04:12:38 pm »
We do 500 sq M of trashed office carpet with a Maxx470 and RX20 in 3 hours. Finished product is mint and dry where we started.
Regards
Glynn

Glynn

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Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2009, 04:59:06 pm »
To do a really top job with a portable would take 95 hours at 35 sq yds per hour using a combination cleaning system, which is the only way of cleaning dirty office carpet to a standard that the client will accept. (most of these people are extremely fussy about the finished product so get it right first time is the only way of making sure you get paid for all your hard work)
To do it with a twin capable Truck Mount would take a mere 11 hours. Who says a TM doesn't pay for itself a zillion times over? ;D
Regards
Glynn

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2009, 05:10:18 pm »
To do a really top job with a portable would take 95 hours at 35 sq yds per hour using a combination cleaning system, which is the only way of cleaning dirty office carpet to a standard that the client will accept. (most of these people are extremely fussy about the finished product so get it right first time is the only way of making sure you get paid for all your hard work)
To do it with a twin capable Truck Mount would take a mere 11 hours. Who says a TM doesn't pay for itself a zillion times over? ;D

are yes just wied the big fella up with two rx20 eatting carpets like they werent there sounds like a plan !  ;D

colin thomas

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Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2009, 05:20:38 pm »
a truck-mount and 2 workers plus an rx20 can do around 100sq mtrs an hour comfortably so that works out to something like 27 hours, no chance with a porty, sorry

colin
colin thomas

JandS

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Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2009, 05:34:28 pm »
So is it 100 or 170??

John
Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

derek west

Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2009, 05:41:21 pm »
on average
glyn says 170
i say 100
colin says100 with 2 workers so say 50 with 1
so average is 50 +170+100 devided by 3 = 106.66666666666666666
hows that sound?
derek

Glynn

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Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2009, 05:50:39 pm »
100, 166, 170 whatever.
A lot depends on the machine, it's recovery power, can it keep uo & maintain 240 F continuosly . Heat makes all the difference.
Regards
Glynn

Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2009, 05:55:19 pm »
So basically if you are up against a dual wand TM with Rxs you are bugrd, but that's not always the case and some people will wand all night with a portable if circumstances permit.

JandS

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Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2009, 06:10:34 pm »
Granted TM's are quicker but only if there's access to use them.
Could you use them on say the 15th floor?
I know some can do up to 200m but is this reduced with the height factor?

John

Impossible done straight away, miracles can take a little longer.

Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2009, 06:15:53 pm »
Your only pushing the solution up (which ain't much), suck probably better vert than horiz.

colin thomas

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Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2009, 06:39:28 pm »
i think glynn suggested a twin capable tm, that is a tm that has 2 solution outlets and 2 vac outlets so you COULD have 2 x 2man teams working from one machine, that would be very quick
colin thomas

Susan Dean (1stclean)

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Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2009, 06:46:30 pm »
Granted TM's are quicker but only if there's access to use them.
Could you use them on say the 15th floor?
I know some can do up to 200m but is this reduced with the height factor?

John


15th floor easy and 200m is just playing around i seen them working well with 7 times that amout of pipe again its all down to how big the t.m. is and what power it will work at

Matt Lindus

Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2009, 06:51:06 pm »
We had one commercial customer who rang us regarding a quote for cleaning 1500 f2 of office carpet, we went along very smartly and quoted £240 and explained it would take around 3-4hrs. We didn’t get the job as they thought it was too much. :o

One month later they called our sister business regarding TV Interference in the canteen and wanted it sorting regardless of cost. We charged them £385.00 to turn the Ariel slightly on the side wall ( The wind broke the bracket), re-tune and fit a new fixing bracket, this job took 20mins!!.
We got a round of applause when we went back into the building.

Matt

Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2009, 06:55:32 pm »
Don't forget we are only carpet cleaners. ::)

Joe H

Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2009, 07:22:50 pm »
Granted TM's are quicker but only if there's access to use them.
Could you use them on say the 15th floor?
John

15th floor easy and 200m is just playing around i seen them working well with 7 times that amout of pipe again its all down to how big the t.m. is and what power it will work at

Blimy Susan, thats some distance
7 times 200metre, thats 1400 metre, is 4200 feet and a bit more.  :o

What will Simons Titan do ......... over to Glynn..... or anyone.

derek west

Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2009, 07:29:26 pm »
think susan thought they meant feet joe, i may be wrong though. 800 ft's a good distance for any trucky so 1400 ft would be maxxed i reckon.
derek

Matt Lindus

Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2009, 07:41:57 pm »
I cant figure out why this business is so hard to find, obtain and retain work. I know the results and modern cleaning systems are fantastic, I also know for a fact that there are millions of dirty carpets and upholstery out there which is why I choose to branch into this. Its almost like a curse holding us back, its very strange.

On the areal side of things the phone just rings and rings all day long and we even have messages left at 1am onwards. Seriously, that is what a normal business is like and that’s how it should be. Where is the sense in 2 calls a day and trying to  talk an old woman into having a rug cleaned for £45.00 only to be told she’s not bothered, but next week she is more than willing to pay £8000 for a stair lift and a new car.

Carpet and upholstery cleaning is a great business but the demand for it SUCKS!



craigp

Re: 30000 sq ft commercial
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2009, 08:27:56 pm »
I like reading your posts Matt cus you tell it like it is. :)

Good post.

Trick is you have to avertise ALOT in this business another reason your prices have to be high.