Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: MNWC on May 23, 2013, 12:59:33 pm
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Just came across this website http://www.washforce.co.uk/Boston/ (http://www.washforce.co.uk/Boston/) There is a picture of the Willis boys and the phone number is the same as this site http://www.cleansafewindowcleaning.com/ (http://www.cleansafewindowcleaning.com/)
Strange ???
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Maybe Washforce is the franchise business and Cleansafe the family business.
If so it's not a bad Idea to keep them apart.
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maybe one brother has gone into competition with his younger sibling. impact 43 maybe looking for another avenue because their funding isnt gonna be available soon .. im just speculating ;D
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maybe one brother has gone into competition with his younger sibling. impact 43 maybe looking for another avenue because their funding isnt gonna be available soon .. im just speculating ;D
Thank god for that im sick of hearing about impact 43 and their micky mouse courses .
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I've heard wash force also has pest force and he is buying loads of work around Boston and Skegnes.
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maybe one brother has gone into competition with his younger sibling. impact 43 maybe looking for another avenue because their funding isnt gonna be available soon .. im just speculating ;D
Thank god for that im sick of hearing about impact 43 and their micky mouse courses .
Mickey mouse maybe but in this H&S obsessed world. You do need it.
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maybe one brother has gone into competition with his younger sibling. impact 43 maybe looking for another avenue because their funding isnt gonna be available soon .. im just speculating ;D
Thank god for that im sick of hearing about impact 43 and their micky mouse courses .
Mickey mouse maybe but in this H&S obsessed world. You do need it.
Nope.
Only certain jobs need it. Most don't.
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I'm sure Impact 43 will go great guns when the funding stops.
There's not a windy on here who wouldn't pay full price ;D
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maybe one brother has gone into competition with his younger sibling. impact 43 maybe looking for another avenue because their funding isnt gonna be available soon .. im just speculating ;D
Thank god for that im sick of hearing about impact 43 and their micky mouse courses .
+1
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Just came across this website http://www.washforce.co.uk/Boston/ (http://www.washforce.co.uk/Boston/) There is a picture of the Willis boys and the phone number is the same as this site http://www.cleansafewindowcleaning.com/ (http://www.cleansafewindowcleaning.com/)
Strange ???
I have been told, from a very reliable source, that cleansafe sold out, and were bought by pestforce.
Word has it they were loosing money hand over fist, too much equipment, too many miles and prices too low - not that the low prices surprised any of us local too them.
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Hang on a minute this site is the same layout http://www.pest-force.co.uk/ (http://www.pest-force.co.uk/) ???
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Marcus, the owner of pest force has bought cleansafe, obviously rebranded it and seems to have kept the willis's on.
Pest force is a large concern, he knows what he is doing.
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Possibly interesting update after I saw David and Michael in a picture after downloading a franchise pack:
According to the franchise pack that Washforce provide, David and Michael Willis say that:
"...We originally set up our own cleaning company and it cost us thousands of pounds to get set up and to advertise and we were struggling.
We heard through a friend of ours about the Washforce franchise opportunity and arranged a meeting with Paul Wilkinson and we bought into Washforce.
Already our workload has increased and Head Office has given us National jobs within weeks of starting, such as Barclays Bank and Natwest"
The thing that makes it really, really odd, is that they are directors of Washforce (UK) Ltd - who I believe are the franchisors of the business. As well as apparently being franchisees (that's the impression anyone reading the prospectus might take away - take a look using the link below. Their section looks very much like the sections written by franchisees though I will agree that it doesn't specifically say they have bought a franchise - it's more of an impression given that the page looks identical to the ones written by franchisees and talks about "head office" giving them work).
The reason I bring it up is that to someone unfamiliar with the Willis boys, it would be easy to read the prospectus and think they were franchisees rather than directors of the franchisor.
Now, given how prone to threatening legal action one of these guys is, I want to be clear that I believe what I'm saying to be fair comment. I truly feel that anyone reading the prospectus might be confused. Perhaps they could explain whether they are franchisees, franchisors or both.
Franchise pack at http://www.washforcefranchise.co.uk/prospectus.aspx if you want to check.
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They used to clean in my road.
All their jobs are now done by a local tradder to my knowledge.
Dave:fret not about 'legal action' a lot of people are all hot air.
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Dosnt Dave Willis come on here or is it some one with same name ::)roll
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does anyone really care?
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No
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Just been looking on the bay for a few bits and found this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/washforceukltd/m.html?item=200973385978&pt=UK_B_I_Business_for_Sale_CV&hash=item2ecaf280fa&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Washforce coming to your town soon!
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Interesting...
So who owns wash force if Fuff is a franchisee...?
Good luck to 'em
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Mod Note: I was asked to remove the birth dates.
They are doing it on that advert as well:
"Michaeland David Willis
Hi my name is Michael, me and my brother David have had a Washforce franchise for over a year, with over 800 regular clients. We have gone from strength to strength and believe the key to our success is being a franchise owner. It allows us to concentrate on doing the work and growingour franchise whilst the head office support us and develop the company as awhole, for example the company software, the forms and the leaflets that we use. "
From elsewhere:
Directors of Washforce (UK) Ltd
Mr David Andrew Willis
Born 30 years ago:
Director, Director
Mr Paul Wilkinson
Born 40 years ago:
Director, Director
30 Apr 2013 — Present (6 months, 8 days)
Mr Michael Lee Willis
Born 27 years ago:
Director, Director
30 Apr 2013 — Present (6 months, 8 days)
So, again, they are franchisees in their adverts but they are also directors of the franchisor. Odd. Very, very odd. I'm sure there's a good explanation.
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How can you be a franchisee if your a director? surely false advertising , cant they get done for that?
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Hmmm....
They're much younger than I thought they'd be too
Not that that matters
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And if those guys are directors, shouldn't it be
Washforce LTD?
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Sounds a good deal
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Take it the noble quest to ensure the safety of all window cleaners has been abandoned then? ;D
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Is the Dave Willis from Wash Force/ and the Dave Willis who commented on here with the buffalo avator the same person? If it is im sure he could answer all our questions ;D
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Is the Dave Willis from Wash Force/ and the Dave Willis who commented on here with the buffalo avator the same person? If it is im sure he could answer all our questions ;D
Yes.
No, he won't.
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Is the Dave Willis from Wash Force/ and the Dave Willis who commented on here with the buffalo avator the same person? If it is im sure he could answer all our questions ;D
No they aren't the same.
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Is the Dave Willis from Wash Force/ and the Dave Willis who commented on here with the buffalo avator the same person? If it is im sure he could answer all our questions ;D
No they aren't the same.
o yes they are ;) ;D ;D ;D
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;D
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Take it the noble quest to ensure the safety of all window cleaners has been abandoned then?
LOL!
I wonder if they cordon everything off?
I bet they don't. We need someone who lives near there to get snappy with their camera phone!
Now that would be hilarious, a nice thread on here showing them working without cordons, what they claimed was "ILLEGAL" ha ha ha
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:o
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It seems Impact 43 have either shut down or re branded as Clean 143
I guess the pot of money for training is empty.
http://clean143.com/
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Take it the noble quest to ensure the safety of all window cleaners has been abandoned then?
LOL!
I wonder if they cordon everything off?
I bet they don't. We need someone who lives near there to get snappy with their camera phone!
Now that would be hilarious, a nice thread on here showing them working without cordons, what they claimed was "ILLEGAL" ha ha ha
He could well be right about cordning off. A windy was pulled in Stockport last week by a jobsworth h&s official who told him that the working area should be cordoned off from the public.