zesty

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Transit custom slow turn over
« on: November 08, 2018, 04:15:20 pm »
Has anyone experienced there custom turning over slowly? Especially when cold.

It’s not the battery. (Or maybe it is, but voltage seems ok)

I find it turns over really slowly on the first start of the day, also all the dials (fuel, temp, revs etc) seems to flicker and go a bit mental whilst it’s struggling to turn over?

Glow plugs? Starter motor?




Stoots

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2018, 04:34:59 pm »
Sounds like the battery.

Voltage isnt really an indication of a good battery.,

I had a van that was slow to turn over like this for weeks, was only on a morning, rest of day fine.

Battery ended up being replaced, go get it tested

Other than that it could be all manner of electrical faults, bad earths, alternator, ignition switch, the list goes on, but i would bet its the battery and its the first place to start.

P @ F

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 04:52:43 pm »
As above , battery is first thing you want to check , then bad earths , and  might well be the starter motor has gotten lazy , dont know if you have stop start on the custom but that is a reason for starters giving up .
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2018, 04:55:52 pm »
come to think about it , im sure it has been an issue for a member on here having the same problem and i think it was down the the oem battery being poor quality .
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

KS Cleaning

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2018, 05:28:04 pm »
Last week half way through the working day my Custom wouldn’t start. I’ve got Ford assistance who had the AA out at me within 45 mins. He got it started and said battery was low but would respond if I put it on a trickle charge. Once he was away I noticed the control for the headlights had slipped round to the on position,  this along with the fan and radio being on and stop and start nature of the job had probably drained the battery. It’s been ok since I charged it, there is a charging point under the bonnet so no need to go under the seat where the battery is located.

HCS

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2018, 05:36:05 pm »
Had a similar problem earlier this year.  My mechanic changed the battery and replaced with one that is good for stop start engines as with our work we are always starting up.

dazmond

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2018, 05:51:08 pm »
BATTERY!get a new one and youll be good to go.....
price higher/work harder!

mufcglen

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2018, 09:03:29 pm »
Yeah definately battery that pal, ford battery’s are crap but with the flickering gauges, I’ve had it with mine when battery isn’t in great condition, switch it out and you’ll be fine otherwise when we get really cold weather it will kill it then anyway :o

Don Kee

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2018, 09:56:18 pm »
The battery in the Custom is notoriously crap. Swap it for a decent one.

Elfyn

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2018, 08:00:48 am »
Check the earth strap (cable ) between the engine or gearbox and the van's body.

zesty

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2018, 08:35:55 am »
Cheers all,

Will replace the battery soon, then report back.

Does annoy me how it’s under the Seat!

I’ve not got start stop, but as all windies, we are always sart stop anyway.



zesty

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2018, 08:37:07 am »
Check the earth strap (cable ) between the engine or gearbox and the van's body.

Will have a look mate, though not entirely sure I’ll find it, I’m a bit clueless with this engine.

zesty

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2018, 08:46:46 am »
Before I go and get a new battery...

Incase anyone knows why this would be - when I leave the ignition on for a minute or so, it seems to turn over a bit better.

When I try and turn it over straight away, it struggles majorly. But the turn over gets faster the longer the keys turned, that’s the only reason I wasn’t sure if it was really a battery issue?


P @ F

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2018, 08:53:48 am »
That points towards glow plugs , does the yellow pigs tail light function as it should on the dash ?
Have the battery tested before buying another , at an actual battery supply place , they will arc the battery and load test it , halfords or the like will put a multimeter on it and tell you its goosed anyway which isnt a proper test .
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

zesty

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2018, 08:57:14 am »
That points towards glow plugs , does the yellow pigs tail light function as it should on the dash ?
Have the battery tested before buying another , at an actual battery supply place , they will arc the battery and load test it , halfords or the like will put a multimeter on it and tell you its goosed anyway which isnt a proper test .

That’s what I was thinking, is it glow plugs. Guess I’ll have to go and get the battery tested!

P @ F

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2018, 09:06:06 am »
My van started doing that last year but the light was functioning as normal , luckily my glow plugs are pretty easy to get to , i pulled them out and connected them direct to a battery with some off cuts of wire , it turned out that 3 of them were shot only 1 was getting the van started and it only became really apparent when the cold weather set in .
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

zesty

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2018, 09:12:31 am »
My van started doing that last year but the light was functioning as normal , luckily my glow plugs are pretty easy to get to , i pulled them out and connected them direct to a battery with some off cuts of wire , it turned out that 3 of them were shot only 1 was getting the van started and it only became really apparent when the cold weather set in .

Yellow pigs tail comes on for a couple of seconds when ignition is on, guessing that’s normal?

P @ F

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2018, 09:15:28 am »
you lost me after the word seconds zesty , my van aint got a Thom  ;D
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2018, 09:21:32 am »
Probably the best test you can do is find a mate with a similar battery that you know to be good , chuck it in yours and if it works better then it has to be the battery innit !
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

zesty

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2018, 12:35:37 pm »
you lost me after the word seconds zesty , my van aint got a Thom  ;D

Meant ‘ignition is on’

Stupid iPhone keyboard!

P @ F

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2018, 02:06:07 pm »
Well we know the light is working as it should then  ;D
Its just a matter of finding out if the plugs are dead now !
I would not worry about that just yet though , the battery is the more likely culprit TBH , got any friendly w/c's around you who would swap the batteries over for a test ?
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

zesty

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2018, 03:22:49 pm »
Well we know the light is working as it should then  ;D
Its just a matter of finding out if the plugs are dead now !
I would not worry about that just yet though , the battery is the more likely culprit TBH , got any friendly w/c's around you who would swap the batteries over for a test ?

Unfortunately not, I’ll take it to my mechanic, he should be able to check the battery etc, or I’ll just think sod it, and buy a new battery anyway.

It certainly turns over better when everthjngs warmed up. Then again the battery isn’t working as hard when the engines warm to turn it over?

I’ve had it on some cold mornings really struggle and it also seems to wipe all my trip computer data (mpg etc) ? Doesn’t effect the mileage mind! As I say, the dials flicker about whilst it’s trying to turn over, then when it finally does, the dials take a couple of seconds to move into position. Very odd. Only happens when engines cold, so only in the mornings on cold days...



P @ F

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2018, 05:17:30 pm »
Sounds more and more like the battery to me , with what its doing to the needles and trip comp .
I think its more the battery thats not liking the cold not the engine or plugs .
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

mufcglen

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2018, 05:57:34 pm »
Will be battery pal, don’t start looking deeper until you’ve had it drop tested at least if you’d not sure about buying one but these ford battery’s are notoriously hit n miss crap.
The reason it starts ok after its been run a fe mins is probably because overnight your battery isn’t holding charge and if its enough to start first thing, the few mins running will be putting a quick charge into it.
I’d just swap it out, as soon as we get really cold weather it will kill it and cost you time off work.
Can get a 3 year warranty battery from the likes of euro car parts for £60-£70 ;)

Johnny B

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2018, 08:13:45 pm »
I had this with my old Fiesta van. It was getting slower to start, and the dials went haywire when operating the starter.

A new battery sorted it.

John.
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

zesty

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Re: Transit custom slow turn over
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2018, 10:14:31 pm »
Nice one guys, I’ll get a battery sorted!