An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« on: November 30, 2005, 06:16:47 pm »
I found this link in an old post of Jeff Brimble's in another forum.

What do you lot think for use as with a water fed pole?

I think it costs $300 (so around £200 plus around £50 to £70 postage; I guess) for the heavy duty wheeled version.

It reminds me of Andrew McCann's set up; though not as smart looking and you'd have to fill it up, rather than just change the barrel over.

It holds 5 US Gallons, so around 25 litres and weighs around 14 kg without water.

The link is here:

http://www.rocketspray.com/specs.html

So what do you think?

Good?  Bad?  Ugly?



james fortune

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Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2005, 06:40:17 pm »
Looks pretty good to me Tosh, I just bought the shurflo back pack off ebay but i see that one you mentioned has up to 95 psi form the pump thats way more than the shurflow.
I got to agree Andrew McCann's trolley looks better but it costs way more than you could set yourself up for using one of these.

matt

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2005, 06:41:55 pm »
i looked into them last year :)

you would need a 2nd battery, even a 3rd if you are going to do a good FULL DAY

BUt when i worked it all out, 200 odd quid for the item, 50 for postage, then import tax, your about 300 quid ish

the same as a Sack truck, pump (in a box or not) and a battery

Yes sure, in the words of oasis, some may say, it looks better, BUT does the domestic homeowner care what it looks like ?? ?? ?? ?? as most know, i dont think they do *cue the abuse* my system looks better than yours, its more professional  ::) ::) ::)

Ian_Giles

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Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2005, 06:43:24 pm »
Yep. looks fine to me, not a bad looking setup....not sure about the battery though??

Wonder how many amp hours it is??

Be interesting to hear from someone who has actually had one and converted it for use as a WFP.

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

matt

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2005, 07:26:37 pm »

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 07:32:50 pm »
I think I'll give them a shout and e-mail them some questions.

I quite fancy it.

Ben Walker

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2005, 07:33:09 pm »
perhaps a good alternative to getting shurflo backpack....

the 1 gallon extra capacity might prove useful, no need to buy trolley, more powerful pump.

the battery is the same as the shurflo backpack, 12v 7a

just bought shurflo!  ::)

dai

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Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2005, 07:37:44 pm »
Got to go with Mat on this one. Aluminium sack truck, pump, battery. All for under £160.
For this you get inflatable tyres and a truck built to carry over 250kgs. DAI

Chris Cottrell

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Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2005, 07:50:18 pm »
Matt

Whats the amp/hr rate on your battery ?

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2005, 07:59:26 pm »
Looks like not a bad piece of kit to me.

Kind of what you talked about a little while ago about a Trolley/backpack Tosh so I can see why you like the idea.

As to it being heavy duty.... I wouldnt bet on it. I know what abuse my trolley gets and I know which will stand the test of time. The battery size would concern me as well but.. if it DOES last a full day then not too bad. Yes you will have to refill it as well which I wouldn't want to have to do but if you are used to having to do that then its fine. I would also want pneumatic tyres on it because of the way they dont leave marks in lawns etc and absorb impact when going up and down steps for instance.


Having said all that it looks the part and has to be better all round than just a backpack on a sacktruck. If I were considering a backpack I would definately go for this instead. I still wuvs me trolley though  ;D

Andrew

matt

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2005, 08:01:29 pm »
i have used a 17 amp jump start thingy

though i now use a 7 amp battery, well i use 2 in a days work, change at lunch time (or after 50 - 75 L's of water)
If i do a comercail job early in the morning, i use 3 Batteries, but thats not a problem

the pump i use isnt as big as the shurflo , thus it doesnt drain the power, BUT its man enough to move the water to 10 - 11 M's high (ground, 1st and 2nd floor)







Jeff Brimble

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Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2005, 08:53:06 pm »
Pump Goes up 65ft Ok using 1/4" hose.

P @ F

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Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2005, 09:45:44 pm »
TOTAL PANTS , I SAY !
Dont give the money to the yanks .
Keep it here , if it does go wrong , your stuffed !
Better off throwing your money to Ian McCann , Hes my HERO !

   ;D ;D ;D  Rich  P @ F
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2005, 10:15:28 pm »
Noooooooo  not to Ian


He's my brother......  TRUE!!!!!!


AND I can still beat him up... even if he iis 7 yrs youger than me... so..I am the real hero  ;D

Pole2pole

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Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2005, 10:59:18 pm »
Andy. Just to let you know, the trolley is working a treat, and yes i have overturned the trolley once or twice(already) and bar a few chips on the paintwork(gutted) it bounces back for more, no probs. Sturdy as they come. I've learnt soo much since we chatted on the blower mate. Cant believe i was soo naive a few weeks back, but there's nothing like being In at the deep end for learning bout wfp. Done the shurflo backpack,250l container in van. Hosereels bla bla bla.........I think i've commited myself  ;D Cheers again
 
Dino

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2005, 03:09:06 pm »
built a very simple trolley system using a £20.00 sack truck, shurflo pump, leisure battery(£40.00) that lasts all day with 25ltr drums. works a treat. can advise anyone if interested

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2005, 03:34:07 pm »
built a very simple trolley system using a £20.00 sack truck, shurflo pump, leisure battery(£40.00) that lasts all day with 25ltr drums. works a treat. can advise anyone if interested

Genisis,

Matt has a DIY WFP site here:

http://d.co.uk/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=1

It might be worth a look if you haven't seen it already.

I think it's an excellent site.

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2005, 04:00:16 pm »
thanks, will have a butchers

matt

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2005, 04:06:37 pm »
Ive also got something very exciting i am working on ;)

its still being tested, but looks like it could be a right clever idea ;)

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2005, 04:32:40 pm »
Ive also got something very exciting i am working on ;)

its still being tested, but looks like it could be a right clever idea ;)

Matt,

I hate half a story.  What is it?  Or do we have to wait till it's patented?  Can you PM me via your site.

I hate secrets.

What is it?

matt

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2005, 05:30:33 pm »
you will have to wait and see

no its not going to be patented, its not worth, its just a something that will help us a little

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2005, 07:44:08 pm »
you will have to wait and see


I did like you, but not anymore.

Go on, what is it?

matt

Re: An alternative trolley system; what do you think of this?
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2005, 07:52:36 pm »
your not going to get your taliban torture equipment out and get me are you ?? ?? ??