SteveAllan

Monster stripping brushes
« on: July 16, 2013, 11:42:27 pm »
Anyone using the monster stripping brushes, any feedback on their performance.

Kev Martin

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2013, 12:19:05 am »
Anyone using the monster stripping brushes, any feedback on their performance.

Steve

Against what other system are you looking to compare?  Do you have a set?  Have you tried them?  How much are they? I think Jamie tried them and he has definitely tried ours perhaps he should offer a cost / wear comparison after all my comments would be biased :D

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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SteveAllan

Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2013, 12:35:52 am »
No Kev I do not own a set, currently using soft to med. I was just curious to see how the fastest stripping brush on the planet was going now its been on the market a while :)

Kev Martin

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2013, 07:53:01 am »
No Kev I do not own a set, currently using soft to med. I was just curious to see how the fastest stripping brush on the planet was going now its been on the market a while :)

Steve

I am not really in a position to comment!  I have had several visits from various people who took advantage of Mike Philbins offer at the show where thay paid around £400 and got some brushes and pads free with a course.  I know for a fact that there are several forum members who did it!  Perhaps they are in a position to comment on the performance of the brushes but I am not sure if they can offer comparisons against other systems.

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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Kevin OBrien

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2013, 08:01:56 am »
Are all these brushes the same Frankfurt??? with different Grits.

Rob Hall

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2013, 09:38:49 pm »
Anyone using the monster stripping brushes, any feedback on their performance.
Steve, I have used these brushes on my work for years now. Yes, they do work. I have my own source for them. How much are they from Nu-Life?
Work great on all Stone types, they come in different grades, Silicone-Carbide and also diamond.
I started using them when I couldn't get Lithofin Slate Seal off a Slate floor, these brushes murdered it.

SteveAllan

Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2013, 10:46:40 pm »
Cheers Rob, they knock them out for £150 plus vat. Where do you get yours, they are not exclusive to Nu life then :)

Rob Hall

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2013, 07:28:38 pm »
Cheers Rob, they knock them out for £150 plus vat. Where do you get yours, they are not exclusive to Nu life then :)
I import my own.
I have some new 4" in stock which I use on my Flex machine, brilliant for grout cleaning and removing Slate Seal. I also have some 17" coming in for the bigger buffer/polisher machine.

My contact number is 07966 555828, give me a buzz or drop me an email to rob.hall@btinternet.com and I can send you some photos.

Kev Martin

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2013, 08:18:52 pm »
Cheers Rob, they knock them out for £150 plus vat. Where do you get yours, they are not exclusive to Nu life then :)
I import my own.
I have some new 4" in stock which I use on my Flex machine, brilliant for grout cleaning and removing Slate Seal. I also have some 17" coming in for the bigger buffer/polisher machine.

My contact number is 07966 555828, give me a buzz or drop me an email to rob.hall@btinternet.com and I can send you some photos.

How much are they?

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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Rob Hall

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2013, 09:09:51 pm »
How many do you want and which size?

Rob Hall

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2013, 10:08:52 pm »
Are all these brushes the same Frankfurt??? with different Grits.
Would you prefer the frankfurt type?

Kev Martin

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 10:19:32 pm »
How many do you want and which size?

I have no idea until i know what they cost

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd.
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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Rob Hall

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2013, 09:22:57 am »
Current stock are snail fitting and M14 thread. I have them made with 50mm bristle length, this is brilliant for grout cleaning.

Two Grits in stock at the moment 20 & 36. I usually have 46 but these are due in soon. I use 46 for Terracotta.

Silicone-Carbide 4" £20

Diamond £40.00

Plus p&p

Kev Martin

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2013, 09:36:09 am »
Current stock are snail fitting and M14 thread. I have them made with 50mm bristle length, this is brilliant for grout cleaning.

Two Grits in stock at the moment 20 & 36. I usually have 46 but these are due in soon. I use 46 for Terracotta.

Silicone-Carbide 4" £20

Diamond £40.00

Plus p&p
  So no prices for the 17" then?

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
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Rob Hall

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2013, 09:58:29 am »
The new 17" are due to set off, I am trying to get the cost of shipping down.
Watch this space... ;D

martin shelley

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2013, 08:51:59 pm »
I've done some side by side test of the monster brushes (180 grit) and kevins honing powder (220 grit) on travertine with a water based wax on, a very pitted limestone that was heavily soiled, Victorian floors, and a York stone floor with thick varnish on. 

I like both system for different reasons, and both slight down falls but only in certain situations and conditions. 

For example - I found the aqau mix honing powder plus sealing and coating remover would be first choice on a York stone with varnish.  Also honing powder gives you a cheap and very flexible option to jump up and down grits when required. 

Monster clean well and hone back a dirty stone floor, but so would a honing powder, but the monster have less cleaning required as no abrasive material is left behind. Also when working on Victorian tiled floors, where missing grout is evident, honing powder can clog up the grout joints, monster would be a better option or a spray diamond impregnated pad. 

Again with stone like travertine with very skinny joints, the monster are 5 pad on the bottom on the machine.  This creates more down force but stiffer brushes.  As a result the stiffer brushes did not preform as well with cleaning the skinny joints as the honing powders do.  So in this situation honing powders would be first choice.

Is there a 400 grit monster pad.  I would be intrested to see the finish it leaves as a 400 grit honing powder is pure beauty and leaves a wonder flat consistent finish.

I my option I would get the monster and a full line up of Kevin honing powders in every grit.  This way, as a floor care professional, you can provide the best service to your customer in every situation. 

As for the question of the fastest stripping brushes.  In some situations, they are fast, but just as fast a 200 spray grit diamond pad can strip and a 220 hoping powder can strip a floor.  But believe me, there's nothing fast about going over every Grout joint with a brush to touch it up, when your initial stripping process hasn't worked. 



Graeme Smith

Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2013, 09:31:46 pm »
Martin I have a Minton tiled floor to clean soon - found under a carpet in a house in Halifax probably laid around 1880.
Would you recommend a 220 grit spray on diamond pad?

martin shelley

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2013, 10:09:47 pm »
as long as the tiles aren't glazed you can use monkey pads, super shine or similar to smooth out surface damage and renew a smooth like new finish. 

would strip and clean it all as required first and then using something like an 800 grit to smooth it out and move up the grit to pop a shine if this is the finish the customer wants.  For longer lasting protection apply colour enhancing impregnator, or budget option, put a topical sealer on. 

Im currently testing a lithium harder that film forms and then you an dry buff with an 8000 or 11,000 pads and it help pull all the floor and joints together, with a wonderful flat finish and high shine.  Will hopefully be good for older more warn floors. but only time will tell

post pics once you have them, and i sure kevin will be happy to help and he can provide all products required and methodology. 

Kev Martin

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2013, 09:41:51 am »
I've done some side by side test of the monster brushes (180 grit) and kevins honing powder (220 grit) on travertine with a water based wax on, a very pitted limestone that was heavily soiled, Victorian floors, and a York stone floor with thick varnish on. 

I like both system for different reasons, and both slight down falls but only in certain situations and conditions. 

For example - I found the aqau mix honing powder plus sealing and coating remover would be first choice on a York stone with varnish.  Also honing powder gives you a cheap and very flexible option to jump up and down grits when required. 

Monster clean well and hone back a dirty stone floor, but so would a honing powder, but the monster have less cleaning required as no abrasive material is left behind. Also when working on Victorian tiled floors, where missing grout is evident, honing powder can clog up the grout joints, monster would be a better option or a spray diamond impregnated pad. 

Again with stone like travertine with very skinny joints, the monster are 5 pad on the bottom on the machine.  This creates more down force but stiffer brushes.  As a result the stiffer brushes did not preform as well with cleaning the skinny joints as the honing powders do.  So in this situation honing powders would be first choice.

Is there a 400 grit monster pad.  I would be intrested to see the finish it leaves as a 400 grit honing powder is pure beauty and leaves a wonder flat consistent finish.

I my option I would get the monster and a full line up of Kevin honing powders in every grit.  This way, as a floor care professional, you can provide the best service to your customer in every situation. 

As for the question of the fastest stripping brushes.  In some situations, they are fast, but just as fast a 200 spray grit diamond pad can strip and a 220 hoping powder can strip a floor.  But believe me, there's nothing fast about going over every Grout joint with a brush to touch it up, when your initial stripping process hasn't worked. 




Martin

I was actually tring to get a comparison with monster brushes against a few different specialist 17" Brushes like SIC, ceramic, tynex, winnex even diamond if anyone other than us has them!  This comparison was just to see how good they are before we add specialist brushes to our new multi fit system.

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
"Natural Stone Restoration Specialists" Tel: 0121 773 9129
www.tilinglogistics.co.uk | www.marblelife.co.uk  http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Tiling-Logistics

Rob Hall

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Re: Monster stripping brushes
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2013, 07:05:30 pm »
I've done some side by side test of the monster brushes (180 grit) and kevins honing powder (220 grit) on travertine with a water based wax on, a very pitted limestone that was heavily soiled, Victorian floors, and a York stone floor with thick varnish on. 

I like both system for different reasons, and both slight down falls but only in certain situations and conditions. 

For example - I found the aqau mix honing powder plus sealing and coating remover would be first choice on a York stone with varnish.  Also honing powder gives you a cheap and very flexible option to jump up and down grits when required. 

Monster clean well and hone back a dirty stone floor, but so would a honing powder, but the monster have less cleaning required as no abrasive material is left behind. Also when working on Victorian tiled floors, where missing grout is evident, honing powder can clog up the grout joints, monster would be a better option or a spray diamond impregnated pad. 

Again with stone like travertine with very skinny joints, the monster are 5 pad on the bottom on the machine.  This creates more down force but stiffer brushes.  As a result the stiffer brushes did not preform as well with cleaning the skinny joints as the honing powders do.  So in this situation honing powders would be first choice.

Is there a 400 grit monster pad.  I would be intrested to see the finish it leaves as a 400 grit honing powder is pure beauty and leaves a wonder flat consistent finish.

I my option I would get the monster and a full line up of Kevin honing powders in every grit.  This way, as a floor care professional, you can provide the best service to your customer in every situation. 

As for the question of the fastest stripping brushes.  In some situations, they are fast, but just as fast a 200 spray grit diamond pad can strip and a 220 hoping powder can strip a floor.  But believe me, there's nothing fast about going over every Grout joint with a brush to touch it up, when your initial stripping process hasn't worked. 




Martin

I was actually tring to get a comparison with monster brushes against a few different specialist 17" Brushes like SIC, ceramic, tynex, winnex even diamond if anyone other than us has them!  This comparison was just to see how good they are before we add specialist brushes to our new multi fit system.

Kev Martin
Marblelife Ltd
Tiling Logistics Ltd
Just me and you then Kevin that have the diamond brushes.
I have stock of 4" and the 17" due soon.
Good aren't they?