geefree

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OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« on: September 23, 2006, 04:11:53 pm »
HI

Im getting faster but i cant seem to get out of the habit of wiping the edges lots of times to make sure not one smear is left..

Even when i have totally finished, i edge down the ladder and look for even the smallest smear, then if i see anything i nip up and give a quick flick of scrim,

But its really slowing me down,

do you guys whip round the edges just once?

i think oh still moist but its not, its disappearing but i havent the patience to wait until it evaporates,

i think im becoming obssessed and its slowing me down,

please help me  ::)

gary.

AuRavelling79

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2006, 04:15:41 pm »
If you are a genuine window cleaner you need to call back at sunset and check for squeegee marks too.
It's a game of three halves!

geefree

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2006, 04:23:20 pm »
Malc,

So its the norm then is it?

must be doing something wrong if i feel like that ,

or am i just an  obsessed nutter lol.

Pj

Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2006, 04:24:25 pm »
Don't worry, Gazza, that's a sure sign you're getting the hang of it.

Next obssessive disorder is ironing your 48 scrims on a sunday evening during songs of praise! ;D

Then you know there is no going back 8) :o 8) :o 8) :o 8) :o 8) :o 8)

geefree

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2006, 04:28:35 pm »
ha ha  :D... that was funny,

cheers pj, hope i not going to be doing it this way forever,

i am worried i may never get any faster because this may become my way... if you know what i mean  ???

geefree

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2006, 04:33:50 pm »
what am i doing wrong or do we all do it, only you guys do it much faster ?? ;)

Pj

Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2006, 04:41:14 pm »
No, you're doing it right, you are being methodical, and wanting to leave the job finished.  Nowt wrong with that.  You will get faster than you think is possible as you gain confidence.  Yes, it will become your way!  A skilled man learns his skill from the fundamental method or standard for everyone, then he hones his own skill.  A really good carpenter once told me, "The mark of a skilled man is not someone who doesn't make mistakes, it someone who knows how to put them right."  How are you going to learn how to put things right unless you experience some of the problems first hand.

Pj ;)

I think some of the older guys on here would do well to learn from your modest  attitude.  (myself included)

Sir Squeaky

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2006, 05:18:12 pm »
Get yourself microfibre cloths.

One wipe down the edge and perfect every time, I've checked.
I don't check now, just 2-3 seconds detailing, and walk away confidently.  :)

I've quite literally knocked minutes off houses.

AuRavelling79

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2006, 05:27:24 pm »
Get yourself microfibre cloths.

One wipe down the edge and perfect every time, I've checked.
I don't check now, just 2-3 seconds detailing, and walk away confidently. :)

I've quite literally knocked minutes off houses.


That's the trouble with you trad. guys - no pride in your work! ;D
It's a game of three halves!

groundhog

Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2006, 06:04:25 pm »
The more you wash your scrims the better they will get, new scrims are not very absorbant. What micro- fibre cloths do you use Squeeky as I have not liked the ones that I have tried.

Its good to hear that you have pride in your work Gazza, which is more than I can say for the glass sweepers on here ;D

Sir Squeaky

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2006, 06:14:41 pm »
Unger ones Groundpig. :P

Moderator David@stives

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2006, 06:18:19 pm »
Micro fibre /scrim it will not make much difference.

I think the best advice would be to change your rubber every day especially being a newby also make sure it is straight in the channel with out the handle distorting it.

If you are only doing a few houses a day well obviously keep your rubber for longer.

This way you are eliminating any rubber problems and can experiment everyday with where and how you cut your rubber, the more water you remove with your squeegie the less detailing needs to be done.

Try to not wet the top cm of the window then you will at least not have to detail the top frame, mind you i always wet it but i know how to wet it i and remove it easily if you lnow what i mean.

Dave

geefree

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2006, 06:21:35 pm »
thanks for your comments, i have a couple of cheap micro fibre cloths,
 they were only a quid each from wilkos, thats what i use for the last wipe,  as the scrim seems to leave a mark or water..

.
p.j. thanks for those comments and the carpenter words are very true,

i dont want to sound like i am being too perfect with each window, but i cant bear to leave smears....

but i think i am being a bit too over the top with it,

i hope i get quicker . and still leave no smears...

squeaky.- i will try getting better quality micros and try them on their own.
cheers.

geefree

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2006, 06:24:10 pm »
Yes i know what you mean dave,

you are probably right,... when you say cut, what do you mean

gary.

geefree

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2006, 06:27:49 pm »
Thanks grounddog

yes i do have pride, i would hate to be told its not clean etc,...

i did inside and out yesterday.... outside first, i was dreading doing inside as for the first time i would see it from a customers viewpioint...

but had nothing to worry about,

i was pretty chuffed :D

Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2006, 06:30:49 pm »
Get yourself microfibre cloths.

One wipe down the edge and perfect every time, I've checked.
I don't check now, just 2-3 seconds detailing, and walk away confidently.  :)

I've quite literally knocked minutes off houses.


How many minutes would you say you've reduced your scrimming time by using microfibre?

geefree

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2006, 06:31:54 pm »
ere we go lol

 ;)

geefree

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Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2006, 06:32:43 pm »
Love it when you guys get going  ;)

Pj

Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2006, 06:42:02 pm »
I only use microfibres now.  I never thought I'd say that, I've insisted on good old Irish grade A scrim for donkeys years, but i love microfibres now.  I don't bother wringing them, I use a wet one and I keep a dry one.  (The dry one does perform better very slightly damp).  The advantage of microfibre is that they really do stay lint free, and you don't have to wring them out.  Get big ones though, not those silly girls hanky size!

I reckon since using microfibre on a window I am .0129849% faster per pane ;D
It may not seem much, but it is critical when you reach my level! 8)

Re: OBSSESSIVE SCRIMMING (help)
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2006, 06:43:05 pm »
ere we go lol

 ;)

It was an innocent question to Squeaks! ;D