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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Richard iSparkle on March 14, 2020, 10:14:37 am
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Hey everyone.
I'm wondering what business decisions you chaps are making regarding corona?
I have 4 staff and some overheads so loosing a months income if our Gov't go down the route of italy (and dont let us out of our homes to go to work) is a genuine concern for me.
beyond keeping hands clean and minimising (stopping) contact with customers what steps are you taking strategically ?
I am playing with the idea of moving some cleans forward so we get them in before any shut down, so we come 4 weekly normally but could move some of those a week forward..
we ask for 1 months notice on cancelling so hopefully that should mean we get that month even if they decide to miss it.
im also going to get in touch with HMRC and my van lease and ask to defer payment of taxes or fees to help cushion any blow.
what are you doing?
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Well I'm just a one man band atm.
I was looking to try and franchise my business this year....but that's on hold for now.
I was going to put prices up, that's on hold also.
I was possibly thinking of buying or financing a new van, but again thats on hold.
Basically I don't want to make any big financial commitments or decisions at the moment. I want to just concentrate on keeping what I've got and seeing what happens over the next few months.
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Im going to work.
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Depends on the size of your business and how good your cash flow is. I’m a v small business. Me full time plus one franchisee so it will have to be an extended period of time before I struggle. Larger businesses with lots of leased vans and big expenses could feel the pain big time quite quickly.
Read a story this am about a hotelier who said simply “we have two months money and then that’s it” v scary.
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We have stopped all marketing and leaflet delivery. This is due to a near non existent response rate over the last four weeks. Window cleaning is going to carry on as normal due to us being lone workers and we hardly come in to contact with the public.
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Not making any decisions, just carrying on as normal until this has passed. If worst comes to worst iv got around £15k on 0% credit cards so that should do me if I get stuck for cash
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Keep going as fast as possible until we're told otherwise.
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I have to 3 employees not sure if complete lock down means nobody can work in all industries. How can they monitor people movement
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I have to 3 employees not sure if complete lock down means nobody can work in all industries. How can they monitor people movement
in italy i understand you need a letter to say you have an official authorisation to say you can leave your house. you are able to get a letter if you need to go to the shops for food, health reasons, or certain jobs. i dont think window cleaning jobs will be a priority job for them, although there might be a chance we can get it saying we are a cleaning company. esp if we call it commercial cleaning. if you are out of your house without a letter you receive an on the spot fine from police
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Keep going as fast as possible until we're told otherwise.
good call. we work on 4 weekly rounds and give due dates for our next clean. i can move some commercial forward a bit though and get that in.
i could also text customers the night before to say we're coming early, but im loath to contact them typically as they might just cancel the clean in the circumstances. if we just turn up on the day they've often forgotten
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If your just working outside unless you are told you can’t go out of your house you can work.
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I have to 3 employees not sure if complete lock down means nobody can work in all industries. How can they monitor people movement
in italy i understand you need a letter to say you have an official authorisation to say you can leave your house. you are able to get a letter if you need to go to the shops for food, health reasons, or certain jobs. i dont think window cleaning jobs will be a priority job for them, although there might be a chance we can get it saying we are a cleaning company. esp if we call it commercial cleaning. if you are out of your house without a letter you receive an on the spot fine from police
I read yesterday that construction work and construction workers are still continuing in Italy
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Its just common sense decisions. I understand it might be harder for ones who employ but for me, a one man band, its just business as usual. No spending if not required as we dont know how these months are going pan out until May time.
However keep washing hands n face and being aware of suroundings etc. I rarely do insides and for now, i certainly wont be doing so
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Cows will still need milked and unless we plan to pour it down the drain the milk will still need processed, then you have NHS workers and so on, I suspect it will only be non essential work that will be put on hold.
The whole thing is BS, people who are at a high risk of death from this virus need to self isolate, the rest of us will experience nothing more than a mild cold and unless our jobs involve coming into contact with those high risk people then we have no real reason to stop working and continuing on as normal.
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Not too bothered about myself and the missus it's this kind of thing that worries me:
"Hotel, cafe and bar jobs could be 'gone by May' trade body warns as restaurants announce temporary closures and Britain's usually busy strips resemble ghost towns amid coronavirus outbreak"
If people can't work they can't pay for a window cleaner.
I haven't been to a pub in a fortnight and I used to go everyday!
Businesses are suffering - might go into Toilet Roll sales it seems like the market is booming!
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I’ll just tidy the office and put my prices up.
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Cows will still need milked and unless we plan to pour it down the drain the milk will still need processed, then you have NHS workers and so on, I suspect it will only be non essential work that will be put on hold.
The whole thing is BS, people who are at a high risk of death from this virus need to self isolate, the rest of us will experience nothing more than a mild cold and unless our jobs involve coming into contact with those high risk people then we have no real reason to stop working and continuing on as normal.
cows need milking but windows don't need cleaning
it looks like in spain it is shops and restaurants etc that have been banned from opening. no mention of business on the BBC report
hopefully
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I have to 3 employees not sure if complete lock down means nobody can work in all industries. How can they monitor people movement
in italy i understand you need a letter to say you have an official authorisation to say you can leave your house. you are able to get a letter if you need to go to the shops for food, health reasons, or certain jobs. i dont think window cleaning jobs will be a priority job for them, although there might be a chance we can get it saying we are a cleaning company. esp if we call it commercial cleaning. if you are out of your house without a letter you receive an on the spot fine from police
I dont think its quite that severe in Italy. Theyre practising social distancing. bars are open, so people can socialise but you have to keep a distance. The bars etc are closing in accordance witha curfew set at 6pm. I believe.
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I have to 3 employees not sure if complete lock down means nobody can work in all industries. How can they monitor people movement
in italy i understand you need a letter to say you have an official authorisation to say you can leave your house. you are able to get a letter if you need to go to the shops for food, health reasons, or certain jobs. i dont think window cleaning jobs will be a priority job for them, although there might be a chance we can get it saying we are a cleaning company. esp if we call it commercial cleaning. if you are out of your house without a letter you receive an on the spot fine from police
I dont think its quite that severe in Italy. Theyre practising social distancing. bars are open, so people can socialise but you have to keep a distance. The bars etc are closing in accordance witha curfew set at 6pm. I believe.
Two weeks after the first 10 towns in northern Italy were declared a "red zone" and put under lockdown, he said they had no new infections. This then served as a model to tighten measures across the country.
Movement has been limited to urgent medical or professional need. All shops are now closed, except for pharmacies and those stocking food; companies have been ordered to shut non-essential departments; a wide range of venues - from theatres to schools and hairdressers to museums - are closed. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51852320
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My girlfriends sister lives in Italy...
Apparently the last I heard is ALL shops are shut apart form food stores and pharmacy's.
People are allowed out only to go to work, medical reasons or food shopping.
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all my work is outside work so ill carry on as normal....most customers pay online so no issues with coming into contact with customers,any that i do that pay by cash ill be wearing disposable gloves and i have hand gel and liquid soap in the van....i also have a card machine if they want to pay by card instead of cash.....
im also persevering with my price rises...only 2 weeks to go then ill be round all my work notifying of the new prices from their next clean in april/may....
i am expecting some skipped cleans esp the childrens nurseries i clean and the childrens homes if they are forced to close in a few weeks.....i have a few domestics that might want to skip a clean or two which will be fine in this current climate....
the extra money coming in from my price rises will easily cover any lost earnings from the expected skipped cleans i reckon.....
also i think my holiday company will cancel my holiday to greece in may and give me a full refund which will be an extra couple of grand back that i wasnt expecting......
........ the best thing to do is to carry on as normal as possible and dont panic......yes its awful for those involved in retail,aviation and tourism and no doubt many other sectors but all we can do is look after number 1 and keep going.......
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Hey everyone.
I'm wondering what business decisions you chaps are making regarding corona?
I have 4 staff and some overheads so loosing a months income if our Gov't go down the route of italy (and dont let us out of our homes to go to work) is a genuine concern for me.
beyond keeping hands clean and minimising (stopping) contact with customers what steps are you taking strategically ?
I am playing with the idea of moving some cleans forward so we get them in before any shut down, so we come 4 weekly normally but could move some of those a week forward..
we ask for 1 months notice on cancelling so hopefully that should mean we get that month even if they decide to miss it.
im also going to get in touch with HMRC and my van lease and ask to defer payment of taxes or fees to help cushion any blow.
what are you doing?
trust me the government cant make you stay in and not go to work.......dont panic!just go to work as normal....the economy cant be allowed to come to a grinding halt....
crack on as usual........ :)
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My girlfriends sister lives in Italy...
Apparently the last I heard is ALL shops are shut apart form food stores and pharmacy's.
People are allowed out only to go to work, medical reasons or food shopping.
ill go out when i want...NO ONE is going to stop me unless the government shoot me!still gotta take the dog for a walk! ;D
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I think the people making light of the situation are foolish, this all could prove a disaster for society, when people start dying in numbers the scaremainering will really take off, we "may" be able to carry on but would you want to?
All of us window cleaners have a higher percentage of "older" customers, who will be terrified of contacting a deadly virus, those that are comercial could see half the jobs go bankrupt, (as there is a huge number of business's not solvent and relying on bank borrowing to survive, when they start folding this whole house of cards starts crashing down,
Coranavirus is a proven killer and there is no vaccination at present!!! Keep calm and carry on is ok for the moment but if you disregard the worst case scenario you are failing in your responsibilities to yourself,family,business and staff,
It should be prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
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Dazmond, have you even considered you might catch it and be too ill to work anyway?
You, your five star girlfriend and her family?
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Question.
Assuming we are allowed to carry on working in our line of work (domestic windows) when things get worse in the coming weeks.
For those of you that send text reminders to customers, how do you plan on wording your texts to shall we say minimise the amount of people that may reply with "oh can you leave it because of this virus thing"???.
I am wondering if i should change my text template message and basically try and word it in a way that sort of says - that as a cleaning company we are taking all precautions to keep extra clean and sanitised and for customers who pay cash, please leave it somewhere safe round the back of the property to avoid hand to hand contact with us. For customers who pay online, we will clean as normal unless absolutely necessary please avoid coming outside to talk to us, for the protection of your family and our family. Many Thanks
What do you guys think? Obviously it will be much better worded than that, but can anyone share how you would word it please. I dont want to do have to do this but i have staff and i cant afford to pay their wages if we start getting cancellations left right and centre. I need to instill confidence in the customer that us cleaning their windows is going have virtually 0 impact chance of them catching the virus.
Thoughts?????
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My girlfriends sister lives in Italy...
Apparently the last I heard is ALL shops are shut apart form food stores and pharmacy's.
People are allowed out only to go to work, medical reasons or food shopping.
ill go out when i want...NO ONE is going to stop me unless the government shoot me!still gotta take the dog for a walk! ;D
They actually have armed police in Italy though mate and if caught its a fine.
Im sure that wont happen here as the government know we are a set of twats who wont listen anyway.
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Question.
Assuming we are allowed to carry on working in our line of work (domestic windows) when things get worse in the coming weeks.
For those of you that send text reminders to customers, how do you plan on wording your texts to shall we say minimise the amount of people that may reply with "oh can you leave it because of this virus thing"???.
I am wondering if i should change my text template message and basically try and word it in a way that sort of says - that as a cleaning company we are taking all precautions to keep extra clean and sanitised and for customers who pay cash, please leave it somewhere safe round the back of the property to avoid hand to hand contact with us. For customers who pay online, we will clean as normal unless absolutely necessary please avoid coming outside to talk to us, for the protection of your family and our family. Many Thanks
What do you guys think? Obviously it will be much better worded than that, but can anyone share how you would word it please. I dont want to do have to do this but i have staff and i cant afford to pay their wages if we start getting cancellations left right and centre. I need to instill confidence in the customer that us cleaning their windows is going have virtually 0 impact chance of them catching the virus.
Thoughts?????
I think if they reply with that the best thing is to say no problem i understand. Hopefully you will keep that customer to do the month after.
For many its not the thought of us spreading the virus its the uncertainty about getting ill, going to work etc that will make people panic and make rash decisions.
At the end of the day window cleaning is a luxury, im sure lots of us have luxuries that would be the first to go if things got tight. Ive got a car that i pay and tax and insurance on every month but i dont need it to survive, i hardly use it, its a luxury that i could do without if i wasnt able to work.
I would just go with it, ride it out and hoepefully pick up where you let off when it blows over, which may be a while yet.
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Don't panic Mr Mannering...………… carry on cleaning
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Hey everyone.
I'm wondering what business decisions you chaps are making regarding corona?
I have 4 staff and some overheads so loosing a months income if our Gov't go down the route of italy (and dont let us out of our homes to go to work) is a genuine concern for me.
beyond keeping hands clean and minimising (stopping) contact with customers what steps are you taking strategically ?
I am playing with the idea of moving some cleans forward so we get them in before any shut down, so we come 4 weekly normally but could move some of those a week forward..
we ask for 1 months notice on cancelling so hopefully that should mean we get that month even if they decide to miss it.
im also going to get in touch with HMRC and my van lease and ask to defer payment of taxes or fees to help cushion any blow.
what are you doing?
trust me the government cant make you stay in and not go to work.......dont panic!just go to work as normal....the economy cant be allowed to come to a grinding halt....
crack on as usual........ :)
Your customers would not be impressed if you turn up to work ignoring a government ban.
I hope it won't come to that. I am just carrying on as normal for now, but it would be foolish to go to work if we are breaking the law.
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I’ll just carry on as normal for as long as we are allowed. I’m a one man band so don’t have the worry about staff wages and sick pay etc.
I have a 6 month fund built up for emergencies so hopefully won’t have any immediate financial difficulties. I think this is really important to have for those who are self employed.
I’ve also got a landscaping project in my garden that I’ll get on with to save me going insane not being able to work but let’s hope it doesn’t get to this stage.
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Social pressure will be what allows you to work or not.
If the town is a ghost town and you are merrily continuing then you will get stopped by more and more customers.
Before that this will happen ...
First you will get the "panickers" - don't clean my windows while the CV is going round.
Second you will get those whose income is affected by job loss or lay off.
Third will be the busybodies - don't clean old Mrs Lady's she's elderly and vulnerable.
Fourth will be businesses directly affected by CV
Interspersed among these will those who want to skip.
Carry on MacDuff until you can't.
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I'm going to work ...
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Carry on as normal if any one says anything just tell them clean windows will reduce the ricks of catching Coronavirus as we use special water ;D ;D
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Im going to work.
I'm.just carrying on as normal and will worry if and when it gets serious.
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Dazmond, have you even considered you might catch it and be too ill to work anyway?
You, your five star girlfriend and her family?
Of course...then I'll self isolate for a week and get back to work....
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Social pressure will be what allows you to work or not.
If the town is a ghost town and you are merrily continuing then you will get stopped by more and more customers.
Before that this will happen ...
First you will get the "panickers" - don't clean my windows while the CV is going round.
Second you will get those whose income is affected by job loss or lay off.
Third will be the busybodies - don't clean old Mrs Lady's she's elderly and vulnerable.
Fourth will be businesses directly affected by CV
Interspersed among these will those who want to skip.
Carry on MacDuff until you can't.
If it gets that bad then I'll take a few weeks off but no chance of me sitting at home all day.......
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How about the gov pay us to use our van mounts to sanitise public places. Shouldn't be to difficult to adapt our systems to spray sanitisers, Gov have pledged millions to be spent on fighting CV so why not. If they want to chuck 200k in my bank account I'll get started on Monday. Just call it an add on ;D
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I am just carrying on as normal until the government says stop. There can’t be a total ban on working, how are people supposed to pay their bills, mortgages , rent ,tax,, vehicle repayments etc? Unless the whole country is going to shut down including HMRC, banks and financial institutions.
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Dazmond, have you even considered you might catch it and be too ill to work anyway?
You, your five star girlfriend and her family?
Of course...then I'll self isolate for a week and get back to work....
I have had a proper flu virus before and if corona is anything like I had you aint getting off the sofa for 2 weeks at least.
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I had the flu two years running. Get the jab now. First time I wondered what the hell was happening. I was chatting with a customer in his back garden when I had to sit down. Felt horrendous. Somehow managed to finish cleaning his windows. Got home and went to bed for three days. The pain in my spine was so bad. No food or drink at all and it crossed my mind ( daft as it sounds) that I might die 😂. Yes, real flu is poope.
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Dazmond, have you even considered you might catch it and be too ill to work anyway?
You, your five star girlfriend and her family?
Of course...then I'll self isolate for a week and get back to work....
I have had a proper flu virus before and if corona is anything like I had you aint getting off the sofa for 2 weeks at least.
With Corona most people dont know theyve got it.
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With Corona most people dont know theyve got it.
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True, but at least you know when you've been tango'd
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I had the flu two years running. Get the jab now. First time I wondered what the hell was happening. I was chatting with a customer in his back garden when I had to sit down. Felt horrendous. Somehow managed to finish cleaning his windows. Got home and went to bed for three days. The pain in my spine was so bad. No food or drink at all and it crossed my mind ( daft as it sounds) that I might die 😂. Yes, real flu is poope.
I thought I was a gonner when I had it, really is a horrid experience.
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You guys must of had man flu then if it was that bad ;D
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Dazmond, have you even considered you might catch it and be too ill to work anyway?
You, your five star girlfriend and her family?
Of course...then I'll self isolate for a week and get back to work....
I have had a proper flu virus before and if corona is anything like I had you aint getting off the sofa for 2 weeks at least.
So have I....twice.....both times I was back a work after a week......some people are just girl thingys... ;D
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Question.
Assuming we are allowed to carry on working in our line of work (domestic windows) when things get worse in the coming weeks.
For those of you that send text reminders to customers, how do you plan on wording your texts to shall we say minimise the amount of people that may reply with "oh can you leave it because of this virus thing"???.
I am wondering if i should change my text template message and basically try and word it in a way that sort of says - that as a cleaning company we are taking all precautions to keep extra clean and sanitised and for customers who pay cash, please leave it somewhere safe round the back of the property to avoid hand to hand contact with us. For customers who pay online, we will clean as normal unless absolutely necessary please avoid coming outside to talk to us, for the protection of your family and our family. Many Thanks
What do you guys think? Obviously it will be much better worded than that, but can anyone share how you would word it please. I dont want to do have to do this but i have staff and i cant afford to pay their wages if we start getting cancellations left right and centre. I need to instill confidence in the customer that us cleaning their windows is going have virtually 0 impact chance of them catching the virus.
Thoughts?????
I'd change nothing.......same text as normal and see how I go on....most dont get one anyway.....I'm more of a turn up and clean window cleaner most of the time
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Dazmond, have you even considered you might catch it and be too ill to work anyway?
You, your five star girlfriend and her family?
Of course...then I'll self isolate for a week and get back to work....
I have had a proper flu virus before and if corona is anything like I had you aint getting off the sofa for 2 weeks at least.
With Corona most people dont know theyve got it.
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High temperature
Dry cough
Muscle aches
Very sore throat
Headache
Shortness of breath
Course people know they ve got it...... ::)roll
Have u ever had proper flu Matt?
I've had it twice in my adult life and the symptoms are exactly like I've outlined above.......I was in bed for 3 or 4 days both times then back to work after a week....
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I think that you're infected and infectious for around 5 days before you get any symptoms. That's why it's spreading so quickly (although I've still not seen anyone with it, a few friends of friends but no direct friends or family members).
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I take it that putting the windows done slips through is a bit risky ???
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Not if you wash your hands or wear gloves.
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Dazmond, have you even considered you might catch it and be too ill to work anyway?
You, your five star girlfriend and her family?
Of course...then I'll self isolate for a week and get back to work....
I have had a proper flu virus before and if corona is anything like I had you aint getting off the sofa for 2 weeks at least.
With Corona most people dont know theyve got it.
..
High temperature
Dry cough
Muscle aches
Very sore throat
Headache
Shortness of breath
Course people know they ve got it...... ::)roll
Have u ever had proper flu Matt?
I've had it twice in my adult life and the symptoms are exactly like I've outlined above.......I was in bed for 3 or 4 days both times then back to work after a week....
You've had it more times than that, you just didn't know about it.
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I take it that putting the windows done slips through is a bit risky ???
Not at all....if you wear disposable gloves and wash your hands frequently and you feel fine then itll be ok.....
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I wear Nitrile gloves. Not much good if the virus sits on the gloves and you touch your face.
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I wear Nitrile gloves. Not much good if the virus sits on the gloves and you touch your face.
It's not worth worrying about mate......you do the best you can......
Last night I went out with the band to a local pub and I must have used my gel hand sanitiser 5 or 6 times.....so many men don't wash their hands when they've been for a pee..... ::)roll
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Daves got us all covered now, so no worries
;D ;D ;D
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I’ve been avoiding people for years. It shouldn’t effect me!
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I think that you're infected and infectious for around 5 days before you get any symptoms. That's why it's spreading so quickly (although I've still not seen anyone with it, a few friends of friends but no direct friends or family members).
I had one customer on Friday and two random strangers on Saturday all in the 60+ age group and coughing like mad, they seemed happy to mingle in close proximity to anyone without precaution, including me! (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1584299641_rolleyes.gif)
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I think that you're infected and infectious for around 5 days before you get any symptoms. That's why it's spreading so quickly (although I've still not seen anyone with it, a few friends of friends but no direct friends or family members).
I had one customer on Friday and two random strangers on Saturday all in the 60+ age group and coughing like mad, they seemed happy to mingle in close proximity to anyone without precaution, including me! (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1584299641_rolleyes.gif)
Ive had a cough for last several months and since a couple of years back when i had a bad flu, its seems every winter/cold time I get this cough.
I aint going to carry a sign saying "dont worry I aint got corona virus, Ive had this cough longer than the virus came out!"
Likewise for some old dears I know, some have asthma and them coughing is part n parcel of what they have, sadly. Or should we judge everyone now with a cough suspiciously........
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I had one customer on Friday and two random strangers on Saturday all in the 60+ age group and coughing like mad, they seemed happy to mingle in close proximity to anyone without precaution, including me! (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1584299641_rolleyes.gif)
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Oh so I guess that makes it all all right then !!!!!! :o :o :o Shocking how people will use the behavior of idiots to justify there own poor behavior ??? ??? ???
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Dazmond, have you even considered you might catch it and be too ill to work anyway?
You, your five star girlfriend and her family?
Of course...then I'll self isolate for a week and get back to work....
I have had a proper flu virus before and if corona is anything like I had you aint getting off the sofa for 2 weeks at least.
With Corona most people dont know theyve got it.
..
High temperature
Dry cough
Muscle aches
Very sore throat
Headache
Shortness of breath
Course people know they ve got it...... ::)roll
Have u ever had proper flu Matt?
I've had it twice in my adult life and the symptoms are exactly like I've outlined above.......I was in bed for 3 or 4 days both times then back to work after a week....
If you where better after 3 or 4 days and fit for work in a week then it wasn't flu, and unless tested you wont know if its corona or the cold so most people will never know if they've had it.
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I think that you're infected and infectious for around 5 days before you get any symptoms. That's why it's spreading so quickly (although I've still not seen anyone with it, a few friends of friends but no direct friends or family members).
I had one customer on Friday and two random strangers on Saturday all in the 60+ age group and coughing like mad, they seemed happy to mingle in close proximity to anyone without precaution, including me! (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1584299641_rolleyes.gif)
Ive had a cough for last several months and since a couple of years back when i had a bad flu, its seems every winter/cold time I get this cough.
I aint going to carry a sign saying "dont worry I aint got corona virus, Ive had this cough longer than the virus came out!"
Likewise for some old dears I know, some have asthma and them coughing is part n parcel of what they have, sadly. Or should we judge everyone now with a cough suspiciously........
My wife is the same, every winter bar last two she gets a dry cough which lasts for months. This time she had a cold in early January and the cough is still full on, just getting up from the chair, moving to another room sets it off and it lasts for up to 4/5 mins at a time.
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What business decision can any of us make ?.... the goalposts are moving daily. As usual our government is all talk without any decisive action. I'm beginning to think this is not going to end well or soon. I hope I'm wrong.
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Its not going to end soon, whatever the Govt does.
Its not going to end well either. The point of no return seems was passed back at the end of December last year.
I remember reading something regarding it about a month ago, a sentence of whatever it was i was reading said something like ‘Corona Virus, is coming, and its coming to you and where you live’. I thought that was a tad dramatic. Basing my reasoning in the way the media responded a few years ago to the outbreak and threat of Ebola in W. Africa that we were meant to be getting.
Seems on this occassion whoever wrote those words about COV were correct.
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Lets face it lockdown is coming then the whole country is fkd. No income but continuous bills. What then?
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If you havent got the money then you cant pay them.
You wont be the only one.
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With my slips comment , I wasn’t talking about my own safety , it was more the Custies , if I had the virus but didn’t know and then posted a slip with my germs on and infected the custie I wouldn’t feel so dapper about that !
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What business decision can any of us make ?.... the goalposts are moving daily. As usual our government is all talk without any decisive action. I'm beginning to think this is not going to end well or soon. I hope I'm wrong.
Keep going. As fast as possible. Until told otherwise.
It doesn't help for me that my best earner broke his hip on Saturday. I guess, hopefully, by the time he's back this will all be over. 🤞
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If you havent got the money then you cant pay them.
You wont be the only one.
When not if, lock down happens and we are all expected to take the hit, then so will big business and financial institutions. Look at Italy and Spain right now. It's not an exaggeration to say it looks apocalyptic right now. This poop is about to get very real.
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Calm down guys, even if we do go into a pointless lockdown it will be a month or so tops which unless you're in Dazmonds debt wont be the end of the world, to put this into perspective, living wise break an arm tomorrow and you will be lot more poop.
There will be sick and elderly people die over this which will be horrendous for them their family and friends but on the whole the panic the media is causing is over this is disgusting and shameful.
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Dazmond, have you even considered you might catch it and be too ill to work anyway?
You, your five star girlfriend and her family?
Of course...then I'll self isolate for a week and get back to work....
I have had a proper flu virus before and if corona is anything like I had you aint getting off the sofa for 2 weeks at least.
With Corona most people dont know theyve got it.
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High temperature
Dry cough
Muscle aches
Very sore throat
Headache
Shortness of breath
Course people know they ve got it...... ::)roll
Have u ever had proper flu Matt?
I've had it twice in my adult life and the symptoms are exactly like I've outlined above.......I was in bed for 3 or 4 days both times then back to work after a week....
If you where better after 3 or 4 days and fit for work in a week then it wasn't flu, and unless tested you wont know if its corona or the cold so most people will never know if they've had it.
Of course it was....I know the difference between a cold and proper flu.....with a cold u can work it off....if you ve got flu no chance hence being in bed for 3 or 4 days each time ive had it....
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Calm down guys, even if we do go into a pointless lockdown it will be a month or so tops which unless you're in Dazmonds debt wont be the end of the world, to put this into perspective, living wise break an arm tomorrow and you will be lot more poop.
There will be sick and elderly people die over this which will be horrendous for them their family and friends but on the whole the panic the media is causing is over this is disgusting and shameful.
Keep putting prices up and crack on
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With my slips comment , I wasn’t talking about my own safety , it was more the Custies , if I had the virus but didn’t know and then posted a slip with my germs on and infected the custie I wouldn’t feel so dapper about that !
Stop worrying!just post you slip through.......
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Calm down guys, even if we do go into a pointless lockdown it will be a month or so tops which unless you're in Dazmonds debt wont be the end of the world, to put this into perspective, living wise break an arm tomorrow and you will be lot more poop.
There will be sick and elderly people die over this which will be horrendous for them their family and friends but on the whole the panic the media is causing is over this is disgusting and shameful.
I'd be fine financially for at least 6 months if I couldn't work at all sean but I'll keep working as much as I can......
See the difference between me and you is I dont absolutely hate my job like you(clearly!)do! ;D
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I don't think enough information has been released to avoid public panic.
I read somewhere this is likely to last a year not months.
Peaking in the summer then dropping off a bit and probably coming back overwinter.
Millions infected, businesses ruined.
I'm depressed lol
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Dazmond, have you even considered you might catch it and be too ill to work anyway?
You, your five star girlfriend and her family?
Of course...then I'll self isolate for a week and get back to work....
I have had a proper flu virus before and if corona is anything like I had you aint getting off the sofa for 2 weeks at least.
With Corona most people dont know theyve got it.
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High temperature
Dry cough
Muscle aches
Very sore throat
Headache
Shortness of breath
Course people know they ve got it...... ::)roll
Have u ever had proper flu Matt?
I've had it twice in my adult life and the symptoms are exactly like I've outlined above.......I was in bed for 3 or 4 days both times then back to work after a week....
If you where better after 3 or 4 days and fit for work in a week then it wasn't flu, and unless tested you wont know if its corona or the cold so most people will never know if they've had it.
Of course it was....I know the difference between a cold and proper flu.....with a cold u can work it off....if you ve got flu no chance hence being in bed for 3 or 4 days each time ive had it....
No you don't, Iv had bad colds and illnesses that have landed me in bed for a few days and Iv also had flu which is a whole different ball game.
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Calm down guys, even if we do go into a pointless lockdown it will be a month or so tops which unless you're in Dazmonds debt wont be the end of the world, to put this into perspective, living wise break an arm tomorrow and you will be lot more poop.
There will be sick and elderly people die over this which will be horrendous for them their family and friends but on the whole the panic the media is causing is over this is disgusting and shameful.
I'd be fine financially for at least 6 months if I couldn't work at all sean but I'll keep working as much as I can......
See the difference between me and you is I dont absolutely hate my job like you(clearly!)do! ;D
What are you wibbling about now, most sensible people dislike their jobs which is why they get paid to do them but what this has got to do with being forced to self isolate is beyond me.
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copy of txt I'm sending to all customers-
Dear Customer, in light of the Corona Virus threat we are taking precautionary measures. We encourage all customers to pay on line if possible. If you want to pay by cash, please leave the money in an envelope in the back garden or other safe place. We will leave change if you don't have the right amount. I have not been abroad since May last year and am in good health. Your well being is very important and we want to help keep it that way. Best regards and stay safe.
Had some positive responses. I was worried about the elderly mainly.
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I am writing to you from Bergamo, Italy, at the heart of the coronavirus crisis. The news media in the US has not captured the severity of what is happening here. I am writing this post because each of you, today, not the government, not the school district, not the mayor, each individual citizen has the chance, today to take actions that will deter the Italian situation from becoming your own country’s reality. The only way to stop this virus is to limit contagion. And the only way to limit contagion is for millions of people to change their behavior today.
If you are in Europe or the US you are weeks away from where we are today in Italy.
I can hear you now. “It’s just a flu. It only affects old people with preconditions”
There are 2 reasons why Coronavirus has brought Italy to it’s knees. First it is a flu is devastating when people get really sick they need weeks of ICU – and, second, because of how fast and effectively it spreads. There is 2 week incubation period and many who have it never show symptoms.
When Prime Minister Conte announced last night that the entire country, 60 million people, would go on lock down, the line that struck me most was “there is no more time.” Because to be clear, this national lock down, is a hail mary. What he means is that if the numbers of contagion do not start to go down, the system, Italy, will collapse.
Why? Today the ICUs in Lombardy are at capacity – more than capacity. They have begun to put ICU units in the hallways. If the numbers do not go down, the growth rate of contagion tells us that there will be thousands of people who in a matter of a week? two weeks? who will need care. What will happen when there are 100, or a 1000 people who need the hospital and only a few ICU places left?
On Monday a doctor wrote in the paper that they have begun to have to decide who lives and who dies when the patients show up in the emergency room, like what is done in war. This will only get worse.
There are a finite number of drs, nurses, medical staff and they are getting the virus. They have also been working non-stop, non-stop for days and days. What happens when the drs, nurses and medical staff are simply not able to care for the patients, when they are not there?
And finally for those who say that this is just something that happens to old people, starting yesterday the hospitals are reporting that younger and younger patients – 40, 45, 18, are coming in for treatment.
You have a chance to make a difference and stop the spread in your country. Push for the entire office to work at home today, cancel birthday parties, and other gatherings, stay home as much as you can. If you have a fever, any fever, stay home. Push for school closures, now. Anything you can do to stop the spread, because it is spreading in your communities – there is a two week incubation period – and if you do these things now you can buy your medical system time.
And for those who say it is not possible to close the schools, and do all these other things, locking down Italy was beyond anyone’s imagination a week ago.
Soon you will not have a choice, so do what you can now.
Please share.
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The above was cut and pasted from a Facebook feed. We should not be in denial any longer.
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The above was cut and pasted from a Facebook feed. We should not be in denial any longer.
You can see it unfolding and yet we still do nothing.
In a months time when we are as bad as Italy we will be saying we should have locked everything down in February.
Too late now anyway, Italy have been locked down a week or 2 yet still cases soar daily. They are already infected heavily, incubation period. That's what we are in now.
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The above was cut and pasted from a Facebook feed. We should not be in denial any longer.
You can see it unfolding and yet we still do nothing.
In a months time when we are as bad as Italy we will be saying we should have locked everything down in February.
Too late now anyway, Italy have been locked down a week or 2 yet still cases soar daily. They are already infected heavily, incubation period. That's what we are in now.
No i don't agree.
I reckon the delay we have now is right to allow the up surge and knock on effect on the health service to happen at the right time.
It's certainly going to happen, but to be honest im looking at the current situation as given notice, and will be out cracking through the work, fuelling the van regularly, making sure my equipment supplies are enough to see me through for several months etc.
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We will shut the door after the horse has bolted as we always do. The current situation has not been over dramatised and it is only just starting. Beyond me, why we are sitting back and waiting the inevitable.
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I'm worried how I'm going to pay my staff
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I have to 3 employees not sure if complete lock down means nobody can work in all industries. How can they monitor people movement
in italy i understand you need a letter to say you have an official authorisation to say you can leave your house. you are able to get a letter if you need to go to the shops for food, health reasons, or certain jobs. i dont think window cleaning jobs will be a priority job for them, although there might be a chance we can get it saying we are a cleaning company. esp if we call it commercial cleaning. if you are out of your house without a letter you receive an on the spot fine from police
I dont think its quite that severe in Italy. Theyre practising social distancing. bars are open, so people can socialise but you have to keep a distance. The bars etc are closing in accordance witha curfew set at 6pm. I believe.
So does the virus only come out at night?
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We will bolt the door after the horse has bolted as we always do. The current situation has not been over dramatised and it is only just starting. Beyond me, why we are sitting back and waiting the inevitable.
Off course its been over dramatised, it fails to mention the differences between Italy and here and mentions that younger people are now being hospitalised by it to hype up the fear factor, young people with underlying health conditions being hospitalised by this is nothing new.
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I live in Galway Ireland, Bars & clubs have been told they have to close for the next couple of weeks until further notice,
Restaurants & cafes are following suit, there is talk there will be a lockdown soon, they are taking it very seriously here.
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I live in Galway Ireland, Bars & clubs have been told they have to close for the next couple of weeks until further notice,
Restaurants & cafes are following suit, there is talk there will be a lockdown soon, they are taking it very seriously here.
I was in Galway a few years back and most pubs had nobody in them, not a lot of people knocking about either, would they even notice a lockdown ?lol
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Haha just seen a vid on facebook (not allowing me to share on here). Shows italy, ireland and other countries taking decisive action and the final part shows a brit smiling washing his hands!!
Also chatting with a group today about it at school. My kids have come down with a cold over the wknd, snozly noses. So i phoned the school to see what their policy is at mo (im convinced just a cold as they have no other symptoms). Bring them to school if u feel its just a cold and we will monitor for now as we haven't been given any specific guidelines as yet, is what i got told.
Anyway, talking to a group and they were saying that there is speculation that china started this off to trial it and see the results (bio war fare).
Thats the first Ive heard of that!
(I bet the conspiracy nerds are enjoyijg all of this, from.a certain point of view)
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We will bolt the door after the horse has bolted as we always do. The current situation has not been over dramatised and it is only just starting. Beyond me, why we are sitting back and waiting the inevitable.
Off course its been over dramatised, it fails to mention the differences between Italy and here and mentions that younger people are now being hospitalised by it to hype up the fear factor, young people with underlying health conditions being hospitalised by this is nothing new.
We need to think joined up. There will be a consequence and knock on effect to every aspect of everyones lives. How severe depends upon what actions we take now. In much the same way as global warming but this is virtually instant and getting worse by the day. In a matter of weeks vital NHS services will fail. Staff sick / self isolating, people dying not only from virus but conditions and injuries they would have been successfully treated for prior to the corona virus. Not to mention all other core essential services, supply chains etc.
In other news, the sun is shining !
Work while you still can. 8)
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Just called an old people’s home I do to confirm my visit tomorrow.
Not a jot of hesitation from the manager.
I’ll be on the glass there at 08:00 tomorrow morning.
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We will bolt the door after the horse has bolted as we always do. The current situation has not been over dramatised and it is only just starting. Beyond me, why we are sitting back and waiting the inevitable.
Off course its been over dramatised, it fails to mention the differences between Italy and here and mentions that younger people are now being hospitalised by it to hype up the fear factor, young people with underlying health conditions being hospitalised by this is nothing new.
We need to think joined up. There will be a consequence and knock on effect to every aspect of everyones lives. How severe depends upon what actions we take now. In much the same way as global warming but this is virtually instant and getting worse by the day. In a matter of weeks vital NHS services will fail. Staff sick / self isolating, people dying not only from virus but conditions and injuries they would have been successfully treated for prior to the corona virus. Not to mention all other core essential services, supply chains etc.
In other news, the sun is shining !
Work while you still can. 8)
What actions? you keep thinking there are actions we should be taking and aren't, watch todays Vine show on demand, they had a expert/doctor on it who answered questions and explained the real reason why our actions are different to that of other countries, at this moment in time we are doing all that we can, we need to stop listening to fear mongering idiots on social media talking nonsense.
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We will bolt the door after the horse has bolted as we always do. The current situation has not been over dramatised and it is only just starting. Beyond me, why we are sitting back and waiting the inevitable.
Off course its been over dramatised, it fails to mention the differences between Italy and here and mentions that younger people are now being hospitalised by it to hype up the fear factor, young people with underlying health conditions being hospitalised by this is nothing new.
We need to think joined up. There will be a consequence and knock on effect to every aspect of everyones lives. How severe depends upon what actions we take now. In much the same way as global warming but this is virtually instant and getting worse by the day. In a matter of weeks vital NHS services will fail. Staff sick / self isolating, people dying not only from virus but conditions and injuries they would have been successfully treated for prior to the corona virus. Not to mention all other core essential services, supply chains etc.
In other news, the sun is shining !
Work while you still can. 8)
What actions? you keep thinking there are actions we should be taking and aren't, watch todays Vine show on demand, they had a expert/doctor on it who answered questions and explained the real reason why our actions are different to that of other countries, at this moment in time we are doing all that we can, we need to stop listening to fear mongering idiots on social media talking nonsense.
One of us will be right and I hope it's you.
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Its just about being sensible and understanding how easy it is to spread germs, thats it as far as im concerned.
For us, we carry quite a bit of water and so washing our hands n faces etc shouldnt be an issue. Be weary of what you touch and stay safe and sensible when working. After that, what shall be will be
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Theres nothing they can do to stop it, they can slow it they can divert it.
Bit like water, it's going to find a way to flow regardless. And if you contain it then as soon as you release it, it flows again.
Made than analogy up, quite good that eh.
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A mate of mine cleans pubs n restaurants and hes just literally messaged me saying its now starting to affect his work as it affects theirs.
Im glad I dont have commercial work as it must be more of a worry to some than it is for us residential workers
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Anyway, talking to a group and they were saying that there is speculation that china started this off to trial it and see the results (bio war fare).
Who were the group?
China Crisis?
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We will bolt the door after the horse has bolted as we always do. The current situation has not been over dramatised and it is only just starting. Beyond me, why we are sitting back and waiting the inevitable.
Off course its been over dramatised, it fails to mention the differences between Italy and here and mentions that younger people are now being hospitalised by it to hype up the fear factor, young people with underlying health conditions being hospitalised by this is nothing new.
We need to think joined up. There will be a consequence and knock on effect to every aspect of everyones lives. How severe depends upon what actions we take now. In much the same way as global warming but this is virtually instant and getting worse by the day. In a matter of weeks vital NHS services will fail. Staff sick / self isolating, people dying not only from virus but conditions and injuries they would have been successfully treated for prior to the corona virus. Not to mention all other core essential services, supply chains etc.
In other news, the sun is shining !
Work while you still can. 8)
What actions? you keep thinking there are actions we should be taking and aren't, watch todays Vine show on demand, they had a expert/doctor on it who answered questions and explained the real reason why our actions are different to that of other countries, at this moment in time we are doing all that we can, we need to stop listening to fear mongering idiots on social media talking nonsense.
One of us will be right and I hope it's you.
Why ? my outcome will be the same as yours, I just don't think at this moment in time there is anything more/extra we can do to stop it.
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Theres nothing they can do to stop it, they can slow it they can divert it.
Bit like water, it's going to find a way to flow regardless. And if you contain it then as soon as you release it, it flows again.
Made than analogy up, quite good that eh.
In a nutshell that's it, they're hoping they can slow it down/spread it out to stop the NHS from going into a complete meltdown,
according to the experts 85% of us will get it at some stage.
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I’ve had to put a sticker on my van .....................
‘No Toilet Rolls Left In Van Overnight’
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We will shut the door after the horse has bolted as we always do. The current situation has not been over dramatised and it is only just starting. Beyond me, why we are sitting back and waiting the inevitable.
How long do we lock down then? Indefinitely? China, Italy et al seem to be doing more but what's their long term plan? Lock down for 18 months when a vaccine becomes available? No thanks.
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A mate of mine cleans pubs n restaurants and hes just literally messaged me saying its now starting to affect his work as it affects theirs.
Im glad I dont have commercial work as it must be more of a worry to some than it is for us residential workers
Until customers who's jobs are related to such businesses lose work or take unpaid leave.
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A mate of mine cleans pubs n restaurants and hes just literally messaged me saying its now starting to affect his work as it affects theirs.
Im glad I dont have commercial work as it must be more of a worry to some than it is for us residential workers
Until customers who's jobs are related to such businesses lose work or take unpaid leave.
Or until draconian indefinite quarantine measures are introduced and everyone is on £90 a week for 18 months.
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I live in Galway Ireland, Bars & clubs have been told they have to close for the next couple of weeks until further notice,
Restaurants & cafes are following suit, there is talk there will be a lockdown soon, they are taking it very seriously here.
I was in Galway a few years back and most pubs had nobody in them, not a lot of people knocking about either, would they even notice a lockdown ?lol
Dry Clean i don't know how many years ago you were in Galway, or if you are making it up, but Galway pubs are always busy
here, the town is busy all year round, its been a busy tourist attraction for many years now, i think you are talking through
your Hole.
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Just called an old people’s home I do to confirm my visit tomorrow.
Not a jot of hesitation from the manager.
I’ll be on the glass there at 08:00 tomorrow morning.
ive cleaned 25 granny flats this morning...no problem....nearly everyone paid me there and then...ive also put a few prices up this afternoon on bigger jobs...no problems.....
its best to stay in our little bubbles and pretend everythings fine! ;D ;D ;D
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I bet gas and electric companies will be rubbing their hands together with everybody having to stay at home!
Lol the only types of business who may actually benefit from all of this.
Time to install more solar panels lol
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Guys if your worried about paying your bills , get yourself a 0% credit card . There’s some good deals (upto 27 months interest free spending) , you might not use it but it might get you though a tough time ahead ...
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/credit-cards/best-0-credit-cards/
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I bet gas and electric companies will be rubbing their hands together with everybody having to stay at home!
Lol the only types of business who may actually benefit from all of this.
Time to install more solar panels lol
funeral directors will be doing a roaring trade if this virus is as bad as their making it out to be.... ;D
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Guys if your worried about paying your bills , get yourself a 0% credit card . There’s some good deals (upto 27 months interest free spending) , you might not use it but it might get you though a tough time ahead ...
https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/credit-cards/best-0-credit-cards/
ive got £15k emergency fund built up so ill be fine.......but ill still work if i can.....
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Had a phone call from one of my commercial customers this afternoon reviewing the service I provide. £230 per month job so not one I’d like to lose, I thought this was the start of the cancellations. Anyway it ended fine as they’ve sent a PO over renewing the contract for another 18 months.
It’s coming though fellas, the world is going to be a different place when we get to the other side of this mess.
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I've just had a "please leave it another month until weather improves" off a customer I've had for 3 years and never complained about weather before, I suspect it's something to do with the virus :-\
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I bet gas and electric companies will be rubbing their hands together with everybody having to stay at home!
Lol the only types of business who may actually benefit from all of this.
Time to install more solar panels lol
Yeh, until no one can afford to pay it that is lol
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I had 2 skippers today that never skipped before, they gave excuses one forgot to unlock gate and another having new windows fitted...i didn`t believe them i reckon its covid`s fault.
One cancelled altogether, said was moving out....load of rubbish i reckon....but i picked a new one up this afternoon.
So nothing too drastic thus far.
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All of the jobs I did today the customers were pleased to see me. On Thursday I have an commercial job inside and out , individual offices in a former stately home, arranged it on Sunday and the property owner said fine, so will go ahead. I'm due there again next week to do a couple of sofas and rugs. Will be interesting to see if that gets cancelled.
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ive got £15k emergency fund built up so ill be fine......
YOu could of took it all into Tescos tonight and you still wouldn't of been able to buy Bog Roll, Eggs or Pasta !! ;D
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I. might get more hens then startrt selling eggs if there is a food shortage. Already got 2 but they are over 2 years old now so lay infrequently
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Well today I did a commercial first thing and had no comments about going or not going next month. The PO is for 12 visits and was set up in January. ((But the small print - which has never been exercised - YET in over 15 years - states that "exceptional circumstances as decided soley by (company name) " may mean cancellation of one or all months clean from point of notification to contractor.))
Then I did several domestics. As follows ... (All before Boris's press announcements and answers but knowing that the "over 70 lock down" was likely.)
1&2. Elderly lady 80 plus and her son (2 houses) across the road, She paid me cash for both as he was out - no mention of CV.
3. Late 60's lady - not home - slip put through.
4. 87 year old lady - very sprightly "told me she wasn't going to stop going to the shops as she is perfectly healthy." and -"I went through WW2 and I can cope with this!"
5. Family aged 40's - not home - slip put through.
6. Elderly lady coming up 90. Paid me cash. She was disappointed that her forthcoming 90th Birthday party was cancelled but as her daughter is a teacher and one of her granddaughters is a student the family don't want "to risk it". But she had no problem with me cleaning her windows.
7. Elderly lady 81. Paid me cash. Disappointed about missing Mother's day. Determined to go out in her car "to her caravan".
8. Chap aged 70 'ish - not home slip put through.
9. Couple aged 70's. No comment about CV - paid me cash.
10. Family aged 40's - chap came out and paid me cash "on his way to work".
11. Elderly lady (and son) Aged late 70's - son paid me cash commenting "no one has touched this (the £20 note) with any Coronavirus."
Now tomorrow after the next set of customers have listened to the Boris broadcast I suspect I might get cancellations - but we shall see.
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3 Cancellations for tomorrow from text reminders. 2 of which never cancel.
Its started boys.....
The bank have been offering me a low interest loan for ages, constant reminders. Wonder if its too late to apply for it as a backup fund just incase things go Teets up.
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Had a walk over today from a lady in her 70’s asking for quote. No mention of virus.
I’m not expecting my business to be effected too much at all. I’m just anticipating a slow down in enquiries.
Did a commercial job in Chelmsford today, then a couple of domestics.
Tomorrow will be a full domestic day, so I’ll see what the response is. No texts sent out (I never do).
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Im taking bookings for pressure washing, soft washing and today another 2 quotes for windows.
Im not expecting to loose any work nor slow down as yet. I think it will only start when everyone else is effected. Thank fully i dont clean for anyone who works for virgin airlines, nor pubs n clubs, so thats great for me
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Im taking bookings for pressure washing, soft washing and today another 2 quotes for windows.
Im not expecting to loose any work nor slow down as yet. I think it will only start when everyone else is effected. Thank fully i dont clean for anyone who works for virgin airlines, nor pubs n clubs, so thats great for me
Do you really think it’s just going to be Virgin airlines that will be effected? It’s the whole travel/hospitality industries that are going to be on their knees in the coming days/weeks.
Pilots, cabin crew, event planners, landlords, airport workers, travel agents, taxi drivers etc etc the list goes on.
You’ll lose work Nathan, as will all of us.
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Pointless including pressure washing and soft washing jobs into this conversation really Nathan they are 1 offs or not regular jobs,I would say if you have a large commercial side you will notice it a lot,you a totally dependant on them surviving to keep you on.
The bets are spread if you do mainly domestics you have a lot of independent customers some it won’t effect so you can take a hit on them as you can gain new work to fill in the gaps not as easy with commercial work,trouble is I can see this driving prices down all over again as people being desperate for the work going in cheap.
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Im taking bookings for pressure washing, soft washing and today another 2 quotes for windows.
Im not expecting to loose any work nor slow down as yet. I think it will only start when everyone else is effected. Thank fully i dont clean for anyone who works for virgin airlines, nor pubs n clubs, so thats great for me
Do you really think it’s just going to be Virgin airlines that will be effected? It’s the whole travel/hospitality industries that are going to be on their knees in the coming days/weeks.
Pilots, cabin crew, event planners, landlords, airport workers, travel agents, taxi drivers etc etc the list goes on.
You’ll lose work Nathan, as will all of us.
Im not saying I wont, its just not yet thank fully. Of course everyone in that sector will be affected, however today on bbc radio1 news its strongly highlighted how virgin are asking all their staff to take 8 wks unpaid leave off. Hence my comment
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It hasn’t started yet I reckon it will effect everyone somewhere along the line,if it doesn’t you’d have dodged more bullets than superman.
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I clean the windows for a friend of mine and her husband. I met up with her tonight. He works for Virgin - got made redundant today.
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im still putting prices up!at least another 40 jobs going up this week...... ;D
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Lol one last push Daz
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What will happen if we the country goes into lockdown and we can’t work?
Will we be able to claim anything while this happens as we have bills to pay.
Also how likely is it that this is going to happen, us going into lockdown?
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Apart from a deferred Tax bill I wouldn’t think you could do anything else
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Apart from a deferred Tax bill I wouldn’t think you could do anything else
Wouldn’t I be able to claim universal credit or anything?
We can’t just earn nothing for 2-4 months
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I spoke to three customers today about restricted working practises.
They all said they couldnt see the problem with me window cleaning in this current situation. We work by oursleves in a solitary fashion, outdoors, away from other people, we dont congregate or form groups of people.
I have a few plans up my sleeve to keep going. Have you got any secluded work?
Imagine having to commute in to London every day...
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I spoke to three customers today about restricted working practises.
They all said they couldnt see the problem with me window cleaning in this current situation. We work by oursleves in a solitary fashion, outdoors, away from other people, we dont congregate or form groups of people.
I have a few plans up my sleeve to keep going. Have you got any secluded work?
Imagine having to commute in to London every day...
I agree with what you are saying that we work by ourselves outdoors but still if a lockdown is enforced I don’t think the government will see windows being cleaned as an importance & think it will likely mean we can’t work. My main hope is a lockdown not happening.
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We have to try and keep working if possible for our own sanity.....dont forget....
Postmen,online delivery drivers,mechanics,convenience/supermarket workers,lorry drivers,takeaway staff,nhs/care workers,funeral directors,gardeners,wheelie bin cleaners,council bin men will all be working in a lockdown situation....so why not us?
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I think that decision Dazmond is out of our hands
unfortunately.
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We have to try and keep working if possible for our own sanity.....dont forget....
Postmen,online delivery drivers,mechanics,convenience/supermarket workers,lorry drivers,takeaway staff,nhs/care workers,funeral directors,gardeners,wheelie bin cleaners,council bin men will all be working in a lockdown situation....so why not us?
If we go the same way as Italy, Spain and France Daz, all of the above apart from NHS and care staff will NOT be working.
What will stop you from working will be the social stigma of actually going to work.
All of your customers locked in their houses, kids off school, people going insane in their own homes for the greater good of the vulnerable and elderly people and then you rock up to clean their windows without a care in the world. People won’t be happy and won’t be afraid to let you know either.
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I don’t care, I’m still going to concerts, stuff em!
Going to see the Flu Fighters, Miley Virus, Cold Play and Slipsnot.
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For anyone that has a mortgage, most mortgage lenders are offering a payment holiday of 3-6 months. It’s unclear whether the interest will still be charged as yet but it’s certainly a help for anyone that will struggle to meet the commitments over the coming months.
My lender Halifax have also said there will be no additional fees for any missed payments on credit cards/mortgages/loans.
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I don’t care, I’m still going to concerts, stuff em!
Going to see the Flu Fighters, Miley Virus, Cold Play and Slipsnot.
I hear that the Wuhan Clan are also on tour.
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I spoke to three customers today about restricted working practises.
They all said they couldnt see the problem with me window cleaning in this current situation. We work by oursleves in a solitary fashion, outdoors, away from other people, we dont congregate or form groups of people.
I have a few plans up my sleeve to keep going. Have you got any secluded work?
Imagine having to commute in to London every day...
I agree with what you are saying that we work by ourselves outdoors but still if a lockdown is enforced I don’t think the government will see windows being cleaned as an importance & think it will likely mean we can’t work. My main hope is a lockdown not happening.
I strongly doubt we wouldn’t be able to work. Boris is keen to keep the economy moving as much a is possible.
I would be very suprised if we literally can’t leave the house.
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Was supposed to be getting a system fitted in a second van today. I've just put that on hold until further notice. We'll definitely suffer some sort of loss/cancelation as this thing evolves. People are going to lose their jobs or be laid off. We offer a non essential service, so as purse strings tighten we'll become a luxury. Hopefully this passes quickly and things return to normal as son as possible. Holt tight, this could be a bumpy ride!
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I spoke to three customers today about restricted working practises.
They all said they couldnt see the problem with me window cleaning in this current situation. We work by oursleves in a solitary fashion, outdoors, away from other people, we dont congregate or form groups of people.
I have a few plans up my sleeve to keep going. Have you got any secluded work?
Imagine having to commute in to London every day...
I agree with what you are saying that we work by ourselves outdoors but still if a lockdown is enforced I don’t think the government will see windows being cleaned as an importance & think it will likely mean we can’t work. My main hope is a lockdown not happening.
I strongly doubt we wouldn’t be able to work. Boris is keen to keep the economy moving as much a is possible.
I would be very suprised if we literally can’t leave the house.
The Italians probably thought the same a few weeks ago.
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For anyone that has a mortgage, most mortgage lenders are offering a payment holiday of 3-6 months. It’s unclear whether the interest will still be charged as yet but it’s certainly a help for anyone that will struggle to meet the commitments over the coming months.
My lender Halifax have also said there will be no additional fees for any missed payments on credit cards/mortgages/loans.
Where did you hear this ?
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/money/11139988/banks-help-mortgage-loan-overdraft-coronavirus/amp/
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If the country does go into lockdown, the likes of HMRC and banks/financial institutions will have to close down too so no tax bills or demands from banks will be issued.
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We have to try and keep working if possible for our own sanity.....dont forget....
Postmen,online delivery drivers,mechanics,convenience/supermarket workers,lorry drivers,takeaway staff,nhs/care workers,funeral directors,gardeners,wheelie bin cleaners,council bin men will all be working in a lockdown situation....so why not us?
If we go the same way as Italy, Spain and France Daz, all of the above apart from NHS and care staff will NOT be working.
What will stop you from working will be the social stigma of actually going to work.
All of your customers locked in their houses, kids off school, people going insane in their own homes for the greater good of the vulnerable and elderly people and then you rock up to clean their windows without a care in the world. People won’t be happy and won’t be afraid to let you know either.
The takeaway services are still available in those countries and the council will still empty the bins....if it gets that bad I could take a few months off no probs but I'll work until the government/army shoot me on sight........
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I spoke to three customers today about restricted working practises.
They all said they couldnt see the problem with me window cleaning in this current situation. We work by oursleves in a solitary fashion, outdoors, away from other people, we dont congregate or form groups of people.
I have a few plans up my sleeve to keep going. Have you got any secluded work?
Imagine having to commute in to London every day...
I agree with what you are saying that we work by ourselves outdoors but still if a lockdown is enforced I don’t think the government will see windows being cleaned as an importance & think it will likely mean we can’t work. My main hope is a lockdown not happening.
I strongly doubt we wouldn’t be able to work. Boris is keen to keep the economy moving as much a is possible.
I would be very suprised if we literally can’t leave the house.
We're not really the economy, are we?
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For anyone that has a mortgage, most mortgage lenders are offering a payment holiday of 3-6 months. It’s unclear whether the interest will still be charged as yet but it’s certainly a help for anyone that will struggle to meet the commitments over the coming months.
My lender Halifax have also said there will be no additional fees for any missed payments on credit cards/mortgages/loans.
Where did you hear this ?
I’ve had an email from Halifax. I probably shouldn’t have said ‘most mortgage lenders’ tbh but that’s certainly what Halifax are offering.
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I had a big leaflet drop scheduled to start next week. Biggest I've ever done by some margin. Sacked it.
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If the country does go into lockdown, the likes of HMRC and banks/financial institutions will have to close down too so no tax bills or demands from banks will be issued.
You sure about that? I hope you are right.
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Good news in the not to distant future, obvs we’ve got to get through the worst yet ....
‘Chinese medical workers who have been fighting the #coronavirus day and night in Wuhan celebrated the closing of the last temporary hospital in Wuhan.
The reported #covid19 cases went from a surge in February of 15,000 in one day to only 15 this week.’
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So garden centres are seeing a vast rise in sales as ones think about working / being in their gardens whilst they may have to isolate.
Business opportunities here lads tonadvertise your pressure washingbservices to clean patio areas etc.
Make as much dosh as you can before you have to shut down 🤦♂️
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Good news in the not to distant future, obvs we’ve got to get through the worst yet ....
‘Chinese medical workers who have been fighting the #coronavirus day and night in Wuhan celebrated the closing of the last temporary hospital in Wuhan.
The reported #covid19 cases went from a surge in February of 15,000 in one day to only 15 this week.’
Yes I am surprised how much China’s situation has turned round. If there was lockdown obvs easier the shorter amount of time it is. A month wouldn’t trouble me too much, but cabin fever combined with the uncertainty would be miserable.
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Good news in the not to distant future, obvs we’ve got to get through the worst yet ....
‘Chinese medical workers who have been fighting the #coronavirus day and night in Wuhan celebrated the closing of the last temporary hospital in Wuhan.
The reported #covid19 cases went from a surge in February of 15,000 in one day to only 15 this week.’
Scientists are waiting to see what happens once the Wuhan lockdown is lifted, because of how these type of virus's have went in the past many believe there will be a second mutated surge which could be much worse, this is why our government and others are leaning more towards the herd immunity route.
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Good news in the not to distant future, obvs we’ve got to get through the worst yet ....
‘Chinese medical workers who have been fighting the #coronavirus day and night in Wuhan celebrated the closing of the last temporary hospital in Wuhan.
The reported #covid19 cases went from a surge in February of 15,000 in one day to only 15 this week.’
Scientists are waiting to see what happens once the Wuhan lockdown is lifted, because of how these type of virus's have went in the past many believe there will be a second mutated surge which could be much worse, this is why our government and others are leaning more towards the herd immunity route.
Don't the scientists believe that you are likely to only be infected by this virus once or unlikely to have it more than once? If so those who have already had it and prove clean could be out helping high risk people without fear of infecting others or being re infected. Perhaps a rotation of people who have had it and recovered could be doing duties of those forced to self isolate.
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If the country does go into lockdown, the likes of HMRC and banks/financial institutions will have to close down too so no tax bills or demands from banks will be issued.
You sure about that? I hope you are right.
I was just on the phone to HMRC to see what happens if I can't pay my VAT bill (VERY large due on 05/04/20). He said we can set up a payment plan or defer the payment without incurring fines. He did mention that the tax office might also be closed.
08000159559 if you're concerned.
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If the country does go into lockdown, the likes of HMRC and banks/financial institutions will have to close down too so no tax bills or demands from banks will be issued.
You sure about that? I hope you are right.
I was just on the phone to HMRC to see what happens if I can't pay my VAT bill (VERY large due on 05/04/20). He said we can set up a payment plan or defer the payment without incurring fines. He did mention that the tax office might also be closed.
08000159559 if you're concerned.
Niiiiice. I’m always late. Be good to have an excuse.
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Today I did a half day - here's how it went. All residential.
Custy 1 Owner came out on way to his car. Brief exchange of how ya doin'.
Custy 2 Husband 60 ish, wife mid 50's. Offered me a cup of tea!
Custy 3 Yummy Mummy and family aged late 40's. Happy for me to clean - opened side gate.
Custy 4 Single Lady aged about 70. Happy for me to clean
Custy 5 Lady with health issues - no spleen - paranoid about coronavirus - but happy for me to clean and paid me cash.
Custy 6 and 7 Not home.
Also - spoke to my two sons in law who are window cleaners. Dan the man has had no "customer resistance" - the other one, Luke - has had two cancel - one has multiple sclerosis and he used to do the insides - that is now on hold for the duration. The other one he used to go through the house and the owner has an autistic son who used to follow him round and they both agreed it would be better to stop.
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We’ve got a job on a London hospital next week, waiting for the cancellation..........
Hotels are super cheap at the moment though!
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Thank fully Ive got a friend who does specialist cleaning, ie crime scene clean ups and also corona virus cleaning of buildings and offices etc. So if my work dries up, im sure he will be needing the extra workers to keep up with all the demand no doubt
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;D
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Done a full day today no cancellations sent texts out for tomorrow just one cancelled saying can she skip this month I replied ok no worries. I have a busy day anyways & 1 cancellation isn’t that bad really.
For me what’s really frustrating is I was planning on really building my round this year with canvassing starting from April all through the summer & this virus has totally destroyed that plan.
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Done a full day today no cancellations sent texts out for tomorrow just one cancelled saying can she skip this month I replied ok no worries. I have a busy day anyways & 1 cancellation isn’t that bad really.
For me what’s really frustrating is I was planning on really building my round this year with canvassing starting from April all through the summer & this virus has totally destroyed that plan.
My missus finished work tonight in Tescos @10pm. I went early to pick her up, thought i'd grab a few bits of shopping whilst i was there. No Eggs, Bread, Meat, Pasta, Fruit and Veg Isle was empty, i didn't bother check the bog roll isle (we have six rolls at home). I grabbed value fish cakes, cooked prawns, ham and coleslaw. My food plan hasn't gone to plan for the week so i feel your pain.
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Slimming World has shut down for the foreseeable. The worlds gone mad...
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Slimming World has shut down for the foreseeable. The worlds gone mad...
In some lands they have banned social gatherings of more than 5 people
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My one employee is self isolating for 7 days as he’s showing symptoms. Great. ::)roll
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Yeah lol self isolating with NetFlix more like.
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Slimming World has shut down for the foreseeable. The worlds gone mad...
In some lands they have banned social gatherings of more than 5 people
One person attending Slimming World could be classed as a social gathering.
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Yeah lol self isolating with NetFlix more like.
That’s the whole point. Social isolating isn’t to keep HIM safe, it’s to keep all those at risk who he may come into contact with safe.
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I'm hanging fire on buying my Missus a Mother's Day card and present from our lad. I don't want to spend the money and then she croaks before Sunday.
Unless I make a card out of toilet roll and buy her some tins of spaghetti hoops.
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My one employee is self isolating for 7 days as he’s showing symptoms. Great. ::)roll
Simon i am worried about that with my employee. Are you going to give him full pay for the week or just the standard SSP of £94 a week?
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Yeah lol self isolating with NetFlix more like.
No, I spoke to him on the phone, sounds like death. Cough, tight chest. He’s often ill. Picks up every virus going. Doesn’t look after himself or wash his hands even at the best of times. Hard worker though when he is in.
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My one employee is self isolating for 7 days as he’s showing symptoms. Great. ::)roll
Simon i am worried about that with my employee. Are you going to give him full pay for the week or just the standard SSP of £94 a week?
Probably just ssp. I don’t live hand to mouth but we’re all probably gonna get it sooner or later so I gotta think of me & my family.
I normally let him take his sick days as holiday but he’s had 13 days off for various reasons already since 1st January which is when I run my holiday from so arguably he hasn’t accrued it yet. I’ll see if I can help him out though.
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Just seen this on a facebook forum and ive had the same.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1584532080_aviary-image-1584531854182.jpeg)
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We've made the decision not to do insides (we only do a few anyway) but I've explained and they are supportive of it.
Didn't get the usual coffee this morning so they must have made their decisions too! ;D
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Yeah lol self isolating with NetFlix more like.
That’s the whole point. Social isolating isn’t to keep HIM safe, it’s to keep all those at risk who he may come into contact with safe.
Yeah like people aren’t going to take advantage of that lol,I know people that almost jumped for joy when they heard that statement the other day,it was like kids in a sweet shop with a 100 quid voucher.
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Yeah lol self isolating with NetFlix more like.
No, I spoke to him on the phone, sounds like death. Cough, tight chest. He’s often ill. Picks up every virus going. Doesn’t look after himself or wash his hands even at the best of times. Hard worker though when he is in.
I just spoke to a customer of mine. He works for McLaren. Just bn flown back from Australia. One of the crew out there went down with it. Reckoned it was no worse than a mild cold.
Still, picked up a new window cleaning job today and a days work patio pressure wash.
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People this doesn’t effect anyone who claims benefits as usual rent still paid as well as all the other things they get,it effects them as much as it does the very wealthy they’ve just got to avoid getting the virus bills will still get paid.
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People this doesn’t effect anyone who claims benefits as usual rent still paid as well as all the other things they get,it effects them as much as it does the very wealthy they’ve just got to avoid getting the virus bills will still get paid.
Yeah this annoys me, all the dole dossers don’t have to worry at all, they will get paid as usual no matter how bad it gets but the workers have to suffer.
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Would anyone do a free clean, or a few windows at a time, for those hit hardest because of the virus. I think I will, if I can work.
I remember my Dad and his contemporaries cleaning the windows of striking miners for free in the '80's.
It's a good way of building customer loyalty. Obviously it'd only apply to good, genuine customers.
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Would anyone do a free clean, or a few windows at a time, for those hit hardest because of the virus. I think I will, if I can work.
I remember my Dad and his contemporaries cleaning the windows of striking miners for free in the '80's.
It's a good way of building customer loyalty. Obviously it'd only apply to good, genuine customers.
yep i will be doing this and writing off the odd debt here and there too griff.......
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Would anyone do a free clean, or a few windows at a time, for those hit hardest because of the virus. I think I will, if I can work.
We did today.
Turned up at a house and the chap has literally lost his job yesterday. (Worked for a flooring company, work has just died)
He had his money out but I insisted we let it slide this month.
Also gave him the number of a friend of ours that works for a recruitment agency, hopefully he can get something sorted to tide him over until he can get himself back on track.
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Good stuff, Don and Daz.
The workers uniting.
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Would anyone do a free clean, or a few windows at a time, for those hit hardest because of the virus. I think I will, if I can work.
I remember my Dad and his contemporaries cleaning the windows of striking miners for free in the '80's.
It's a good way of building customer loyalty. Obviously it'd only apply to good, genuine customers.
I've never done it in the past, I've always said that I wouldn't clean windows for free if you paid me.
However even I have offered the odd credit to customers who've phoned up to cancel after being laid off.
One guy was a newly qualified pilot, just spent thousands on training and boom. Hopefully when this is over he'll see me right :D
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Would anyone do a free clean, or a few windows at a time, for those hit hardest because of the virus. I think I will, if I can work.
I remember my Dad and his contemporaries cleaning the windows of striking miners for free in the '80's.
It's a good way of building customer loyalty. Obviously it'd only apply to good, genuine customers.
I've never done it in the past, I've always said that I wouldn't clean windows for free if you paid me.
However even I have offered the odd credit to customers who've phoned up to cancel after being laid off.
One guy was a newly qualified pilot, just spent thousands on training and boom. Hopefully when this is over he'll see me right :D
Nice one, Souples.
It can be good for business even if it doesn't feel like it at the time.
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Would anyone do a free clean, or a few windows at a time, for those hit hardest because of the virus. I think I will, if I can work.
I remember my Dad and his contemporaries cleaning the windows of striking miners for free in the '80's.
It's a good way of building customer loyalty. Obviously it'd only apply to good, genuine customers.
I've never done it in the past, I've always said that I wouldn't clean windows for free if you paid me.
However even I have offered the odd credit to customers who've phoned up to cancel after being laid off.
One guy was a newly qualified pilot, just spent thousands on training and boom. Hopefully when this is over he'll see me right :D
It's plane to see you did the right thing.
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Slimming World has shut down for the foreseeable. The worlds gone mad...
They'll be booming after 12 weeks sat in the house.