[supernova77]

I hate jobs like that...

You spend the whole time thinking "maybe I should just make a run for it  "

Andy

[Tosh]

You spend the whole time thinking "maybe I should just make a run for it  "

Exactly!!!

I did find microfibre better than scrim though!  Unfortunately, I only used them for the last set of windows that I hand-bashed.

I am a total idiot!

[jeff1]

Tosh
Just get Wor lass to give you a good slap now and again,  then every time you price a Job, you'll just think to your self ''Now is this worth a good slapping from wor lass, or shall I price it right in the first place, I think these thoughts may Just slow you down to think Positive and avoid a good slapping next time

[JohnL]

and you are moaning for £23 an hour?  I'm sure some would like the opportunity to earn that sort of money!

[Paul Coleman]

But the thing is, when the customer is escorting you round the place; chatting as you go; you don't tend to take that much notice.  And I feel awkward saying, 'I'm going to have another look round; by myself; if that's okay?' 

I prefer it when they show me round and then sod-off; so I can do the quote in slow time.  I'll make sure this happens in future.

That's exactly what I have done for some time now on more complex jobs Tosh.  I have had the customer walk around with me before saying things like "...........and there's another window there and one over there too but that's only a tiny one" etc etc.  I find it a big distraction.  I like to go around again without that distraction and without anyone trying to influence me.  I learned this the hard way too if that's any consolation.

[DaveWilkinson]

I never quote and do a job same day, I like to ring the customer later in the day to give them the price and arrange a time to do it if its accepted, it stops you just pulling a figure out your head on the spot which is normally when you give stupid prices because you feel pressured.

Just tell them you can give them a price later that day but your to busy to work one out now. If they try to pressure you into a price now give them a high one and say because they want it now you have work on a worst case senario.

DAve

[steve k]

ah yes...got my maths wrong

If the outside took an hour and a half at £50, I would have guesstimated the insides at 2 hours so would have charged £60...reduced at the end for the half hour less and the volume of work in one place to £50...so a £100 for the whole job at £33 per hour.

I think the sums are right there...

(I hate doing insides... )

[Tosh]

and you are moaning for £23 an hour?  I'm sure some would like the opportunity to earn that sort of money!

I suppose there are regional differences, but this part of South East Wales is fairly affluent; we're right next to the Wye Valley and there's some posh places about.

I'm moaning about the 20 quid for an-hour-and-a-half part of the job (my fault completely); the vast majority of which were spent with one foot on the second from top rung of an A-Frame ladder; handbashing a multitude of anchient - at full stretch - real leaded windows that were covered in years of fly poo, mould and grease.

I've had easier punishments dished out to me in the army!

[Biscute]

You think you got it bad you wana be me, my round is at least 95% lead and georgan, my customers and old moaning twits and interbead i think. and when i uped the priceses wich are so low, the cheeky gets say well whys that my pention hasnt gone up so why is my windows going up. But i keep my self amused buy my silly pranks and soon to be hostage gnome taking 

[Tosh]

Biscute,

(Biscute is spelt 'biscuit' by the way; if that's what you meant ), I hope you use a WFP?

[Biscute]

nope its a nick name and stuck like that as i am dyslexic and from a kid always wrote it as that. also nope no wfp as of yet.

[Tosh]

nope its a nick name and stuck like that as i am dyslexic and from a kid always wrote it as that. also nope no wfp as of yet.

Biscute,

I feel bad now!  Sorry mate.  Wor Lass is dyslexic also; I know it's not much fun and understand some of the issues surrounding dyslexia.

But blimey, you've gotta get yourself a WFP!  Have you considered a backpack set up?

I got mine for around five or six hundred quid; and I think it's the bees knees.  I've been using it for around 18 months now and it's class. 

It takes some getting used to; just like when you started trad; but when you know what you're doing, you'll fly through those leaded windows.

[Biscute]

not a problem m8 i dont take offence at all, yer im gona get this week out the way then im going to go to cleantech they got a full starter set for 500, looks pritty good in my opinion.

[steve k]

or you could mosey on down to Garston and buy my van and 400 litre wfp system with 2 brand new unused poles from Brodexpoles...i`ll even throw in a cul de sac of  6 semis bringing in £50 for an hour an a half work and some training...£2500

[Biscute]

Steve i dont think im hard enought to work in garston,  but yer i am intrested init email me the info on the van and system or just add me to msn, keithwerbiskey@hotmail.com

[steve k]

Keith...
you have an email...

[Biscute]

Cheers m8

[Clive McDonald]

I laughed at some of your interesting constructions too. I realise now I mean't borrow, not lend.They should have one of those emoticoms with a red face.