Ian Gourlay

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #80 on: May 25, 2008, 04:06:54 pm »
Martin

as the Statistics man

Could you tell me by what % Fuel Duty has risen since 1997


How does this compare with inflation?

The Great One

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #81 on: May 25, 2008, 06:57:43 pm »
1995 54p Tax 39.4p

1996 55.8p Tax 42.9p

2000 76.2p Tax 58.6p

2005 91p Tax 60.6p

2007 95.1p Tax 63.7p

Thefuel escalator  (intro'd by the Conservatives) forced prices up from one of the lowest in Europe to now one of the most expensive. When it was first added, fuel prices rose by 3 pence a litre and tax contributed to 72.8% of the total cost. By 1997 the escalator had added 11.1p to the cost of unleaded petrol and was at 75%. It didn't get any better when the conservatives left office and Gordon Brown took over, as the escalator increased and 3 pence was added per litre. This took tax up to an incredible 81.5% of the total price of fuel.

The esculator was scrapped in 1999, but obviously petrol goes up by 4-6p a year through the budgets, last tax rise was scrapped. the tax includes 17.5% VAT.

British drivers pay two taxes on petrol they buy at the pump and fuel campaigners complain about the fact that VAT is charged on the cost of fuel and the duty and feel it should only be calculated on the cost of the fuel for a fairer petrol price.

As of 1 October 2007 effective rates of duty for non-road fuels increased by 2 ppl. These rates are set to be increased by the same percentage as the main road fuels on 1 April 2008 and again on 1 April 2009.

From 1 October 2007 duty rates for unleaded petrol, leaded petrol, aviation gasoline and other heavy oil used as road fuel were increased by the same percentage as the main road fuels.

From 2007-10-01 the main road fuel (petrol and diesel) duty rate in the UK is GBP£0.5035 per litre. The rate for biodiesel and bioethanol is £0.3035. Value Added Tax (VAT), currently at 17.5%, is also charged on the price of the fuel and on the duty. At a pump price of 100p/litre (typical for unleaded as at November 2007), this would put the combined tax at 65.24p/litre, or approximately USD$4.84 per gallon. Thus without tax, the retail price would be 34.76p per litre, making a combined tax rate of 188%.

(Most of this info has been copied & pasted as I couldn't be bothered writing it all out) Google Fuel Tax UK and you will get all this info and more besides.

When the market opens again at 8am on tuesday I think it will surge again to $135 (Brent) and may settle back to $132/33, seems to drop after midday.

As for inflation I don't agree with the fact that it is kept artifically low, as mortgage & fuel are not included in inflation calculations!

Regards

Martin 8)

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #82 on: May 25, 2008, 10:15:03 pm »
By your figures Martin in the 5years 2000 to 2005 the Government increased Fuel duty 2p Helping the motorist

hardly 4p to 6p a year  as claimed by you. and VAT remained consistent at 17.5%

VAT has always been added to price of fuel since it was introduced

Why have the oil companies not increased the refining capacity of Diesel hence the increase deferential, when at one time disel was less than petrol

The Great One

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #83 on: May 26, 2008, 10:46:40 pm »
Hi

I said the price of peterol goes up 4-6p

95-2000 up by 22p (4.4p average)

2000-05 up by 15p (3p average)

1995-2008 up by 74p+ (5.6p average)

VAT has been added sine 1908 (I think).

Refineries have to refine crude into all it derivatives, including Diesel, Jet fuel, Bunker Fuel, CST 180, Heating Oil, Bitumen, Naptha, kerosene, gasolines & lubricants etc, etc. Their refining capacity can vary depending on the size of the refinery, say from 30,000 to 100,000 barells a day (of crude).

As the oil producing countries feel that supply is meeting demand they won't open the taps to bring more to the market. At the moment it is not demand pushing up the price, it's the hedge fund managers speculating on future oil price.

Regards

Martin 8)

dan roberts

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #84 on: May 26, 2008, 11:14:58 pm »
What a Bell End
Life moves pretty fast, if u dont stop and look around once in a while, u could miss it.

The Great One

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #85 on: May 27, 2008, 07:51:24 am »
Hi Dan

You been looking in that mirror again ;)

dan roberts

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #86 on: May 27, 2008, 08:19:40 am »
How rude!!

Charlie Big Potatoes has a vicious tongue.

 >:(
Life moves pretty fast, if u dont stop and look around once in a while, u could miss it.

Phillip Mold

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #87 on: June 09, 2008, 11:01:19 pm »
I know its not a lot, but you can get 3% or nearly 4p per litre off. Use a shell master card, I tried to post a link on here bit it won't let me
Doing the best job in the world as well as I can

The Great One

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #88 on: June 10, 2008, 05:14:20 pm »
Brighton (paradise) this morning:

Unleaded £1.11.9

Diesel £1.21.9

Regards

Martin 8)

Could it BE any sunnier? ;)

1 Month later

Unleaded £1.16.9

Diesel £129.9

Regards

Martin 8)

Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #89 on: June 10, 2008, 05:47:18 pm »
£ 91.00 to fill up my Transporter today - wasn't that long ago I could fill it up for less than £ 70 - daylight robbery !!

murky

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #90 on: June 10, 2008, 05:53:20 pm »
I have just been told by the garage I went to that he wont get anymore deliveries after Friday as the tanker drivers are definatly going on strike.

Then he will only get a delivery 1 in 5 expected deliveries.

Dont mean to panic you but.................................

Murky

neil 47

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Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #91 on: June 10, 2008, 06:40:09 pm »
I saw it at £1.35  & 5 mackeral a litre, on the lizard today   ;D ;D ;D



Neil
IICRC

Joe H

Re: Diesel now £1.26 by me
« Reply #92 on: June 10, 2008, 08:51:48 pm »
Its Shell drivers on strike from Friday (unless settlement)

So it wont afect all outlets. No panic